rifleman223
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posted August 05, 2007 09:10 PM
 Edited By: rifleman223 on 5 Aug 2007 22:10
Exhaust (TBR)
I guess, Two Brothers has a new slip on already for the bike.
Thinking about getting it. Any thoughts? I am not experienced with them and I am curious on how much louder it will be.
  
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TedG
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posted August 05, 2007 09:33 PM
First I would want to see dyno charts, But I feel that 2 quiet cans will flow as well as one louder can. That is the kind of system I want.
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rifleman223
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posted August 05, 2007 09:37 PM
Edited By: rifleman223 on 5 Aug 2007 22:38
They have them on the site.
http://www.twobros.com/cgi-bin/shopper?search=action&sku=005-19204&searchstart=0&template=Templates/TBRSearchResult-Simple-Kaw-Concours14-SO.html
I am with you though, I would prefer the dual exhaust on the C14 to even the bike out.
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TedG
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posted August 06, 2007 07:09 AM
Assist
http://www.twobros.com/cgi-bin/shopper?search=action&sku=005-19204&searchstart=0&template=Templates/TBRSearchResult-Simple-Kaw-Concours14-SO.html
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reynoldss
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posted August 06, 2007 09:36 AM
Edited By: reynoldss on 6 Aug 2007 10:37
Somebody needs to make a full system and the canister needs to be at the same angle as the saddle bag.
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reynoldss
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posted August 06, 2007 09:37 AM
Still looks tempting though!
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rifleman223
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posted August 06, 2007 11:58 AM
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Somebody needs to make a full system and the canister needs to be at the same angle as the saddle bag.
I agree!!
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TedG
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posted August 06, 2007 06:14 PM
My only problem with all of this is noise. I just love the quiet, It just adds to the smoothness. And to be honest, the smoothness is one of the best features.
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reynoldss
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posted August 07, 2007 01:36 PM
I to want a quite one. No louderthan 96-98 db, quiter if I can get it. And you're right it may take away from the smoothness. I think it's cool to drop 25 lbs though. I guess I could get 20 off my fat arse but that's another story.
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posted August 07, 2007 01:50 PM
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First I would want to see dyno charts, But I feel that 2 quiet cans will flow as well as one louder can. That is the kind of system I want.
They have the dyno numbers out now. 
http://www.twobros.com/Cust_Service/Dyno_Charts/dyno_2008_kawa_concours.pdf
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chez
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posted August 08, 2007 03:12 PM
Still waiting for mine grrrrrr
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zx14_1965
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posted August 08, 2007 08:52 PM
Edited By: zx14_1965 on 8 Aug 2007 22:07
I never like the 2 bros. line up of exhausts. Looking at the line of the exhaust in comparison to the bag is obvious that they rushed into being the first in getting a system out for the Connie. I believe the db levels are around 99db which is a bit loud for a bike like this IMO.
IMO - full exhaust is unncessary from what I've seen clogging up the collector, open up that clogged mess and there's easily another 5-6hp sitting there. Replacing the stock half with an aftermarket exhaust should be pretty close to 10hp and 2 to 4 ft lbs of torqueI plan to hack the stock exhaust in half and recored to retain the stock appearance.
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rifleman223
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posted August 08, 2007 09:56 PM
That is what I was afraid of, the DB level. I agree with zx14_1965 that 99 db is too loud for this bike. I think I will wait.
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chez
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posted August 09, 2007 03:34 PM
Being audible is a safety factor in my mind. Not over the top just nice and throaty.
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gtr1400
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posted August 09, 2007 07:18 PM
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Being audible is a safety factor in my mind. Not over the top just nice and throaty.
Nice loud horn works nicely too...
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gtr1400
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posted August 09, 2007 07:19 PM
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First I would want to see dyno charts, But I feel that 2 quiet cans will flow as well as one louder can. That is the kind of system I want.
I have a stock ZX14 exhaust hangin on the rafters, that'll be my next project...retrofit them on the Connie.
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posted August 09, 2007 07:34 PM
...a turbo would make it quiet AND faster/quicker!.....whooooooooooosh!!!!!!! 
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daysoffIride
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posted August 09, 2007 08:59 PM
If I had to vote for an aftermarket type of exhaust, I would vote for a nice single can..... I actually don't mind the look of the stock cannon..... It to me looks better than the 2 brothers exhaust shown above.... That one looks a bit cheesy to me... As for the dyno, yeah, I need more power..... Come on now.....
I think on a bike of this type, quieter is a bit better, After 6 hours on it, I for one want to listen to music as I flow through the twisties of Colorado for example. Not the drone of some "performance exhaust system. ( with minimal gain as proved by the dyno charts). Again, who needs more gains here....
Add up the expense and the noise and whats the point....
The idea of two cans is too retro to me on this type of bike,I think it would look old and dated.... Like an old CB 750 or something...Unless they are the under seat type, which I certainly would NOT want on this ride.
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daysoffIride
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posted August 09, 2007 09:18 PM
One more note, The loud pipe gig is killing our sport..... Unless you ride on a track, try to get a pipe that puts out NO MORE than 92 or so db, before we are locked out of cities, neighborhoods and hassled by the man.... It is already an issue helped along nicely by our buddies on the super loud rattle traps.... You know them as the "loud pipes save lives guys" The ones concerned about life that normally wear no helmets..... They're killing us all slowly.... (the loud pipes) Just ride
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TedG
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posted August 10, 2007 08:16 AM
To get the quiet we need and the performance we want, in a single can is going to be quite the accomplishment. To me the only real solution IMHO is 2 quiet cans, just to get the flow.
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chez
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posted August 12, 2007 03:21 PM
Edited By: chez on 12 Aug 2007 16:21
There is a difference between loud and throaty, also obnoxious and toney.
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AllStingNoBling
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posted August 13, 2007 07:24 AM
Edited By: AllStingNoBling on 13 Aug 2007 08:25
Frankly, I would LOVE to see a black Remus Power Cone on this bike. The power is more than enough of this bike, and - as TedG said - the sound just adds to the smoothness. Coming off a Buell as my first bike, I am not used to having a huge mass of stuff hanging off the right side of the bike. So shaving weight is my top reason for a different exhaust.
Obviously not as up swept as demonstrated on this Speed Triple, but you get the idea:
Here is another shot as you can see, it sort of looks like our stock exhaust, just not so bulky:
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rifleman223
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posted August 16, 2007 09:54 PM
That remus looks nice. How about the DB rating?
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Wii
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posted August 22, 2007 07:30 AM
Looks ok. Right now the carbon is my favorite of all the exhaust available.
I would say don't make a two can system because it would be atleast twice the price and I can't see alot of people shelling out the extra money.
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