08blade
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posted February 14, 2008 04:54 AM
 Edited By: 08blade on 14 Feb 2008 04:59
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I say it as I see it.
If the honda is pumping out those numbers I am extremely impressed... especially for a Honda, with a pipe it would have as good a top end pull as the Kawi.... "IF" is the thing.
The Kawi would also improve with a pipe. I think that stock for stock or mod for mod the Kawi (and the Suzuki for that matter) will put up a bigger peak number. It's just not as "bigger" as some *cough*YZF*cough* have been bragging about. lol The Honda has a strong midrange where it shows up to a 10 hp power advantage. Combine that with the only 2 peak hp defecit and a 20 to 30 lb.weight advantage and I'd say Honda did a great job with the '08 1000RR.
  
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YZF
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posted February 14, 2008 11:40 AM
08blade> what have you been smoking LOL 
zx10 has almost 9rwhp (about 10crank hp) advantage at peak hp LOL , look at the same day same dyno test on MCN page lol
And what midrange advantage you were talking about? Tell me about it, especially at 6500rpm (thats midrange for you) ? I see green line ABOVE and not below LOL
Kawasaki motor has more power Everywhere, and not only at the peak. Its not R1 fyi. When you increase compresion ratio you get power everywhere (low, mid and high rpms).
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fish_antlers
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posted February 14, 2008 01:48 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 14 Feb 2008 13:49
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08blade> what have you been smoking LOL
zx10 has almost 9rwhp (about 10crank hp) advantage at peak hp LOL , look at the same day same dyno test on MCN page lol
And what midrange advantage you were talking about? Tell me about it, especially at 6500rpm (thats midrange for you) ? I see green line ABOVE and not below LOL
Kawasaki motor has more power Everywhere, and not only at the peak. Its not R1 fyi. When you increase compresion ratio you get power everywhere (low, mid and high rpms).
YZF... you'd better learn how to read a dyno chart 
pretty much the ONLY place the 10R seems to have the Blade beat is between 12 and 13,000 RPM....
How much of your riding time to you spend at 12 & 13 g's?
Answer = none.
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08blade
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posted February 14, 2008 02:35 PM
Edited By: 08blade on 14 Feb 2008 14:36
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08blade> what have you been smoking LOL zx10 has almost 9rwhp (about 10crank hp) advantage at peak hp LOL , look at the same day same dyno test on MCN page lol And what midrange advantage you were talking about? Tell me about it, especially at 6500rpm (thats midrange for you) ? I see green line ABOVE and not below LOL Kawasaki motor has more power Everywhere, and not only at the peak. Its not R1 fyi. When you increase compresion ratio you get power everywhere (low, mid and high rpms).
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YZF... you'd better learn how to read a dyno chart pretty much the ONLY place the 10R seems to have the Blade beat is between 12 and 13,000 RPM.... How much of your riding time to you spend at 12 & 13 g's? Answer = none.
This "kid" wont give up but then again he's all about STRAIGHT LINE POWER! LOL
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fish_antlers
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posted February 14, 2008 03:05 PM
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This "kid" wont give up but then again he's all about STRAIGHT LINE POWER! LOL
I guess he's got it (provided he keeps the RPM's between 12,500 and 13,000)
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stevewfl
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posted February 14, 2008 09:17 PM
LMAO no reason for me to even comment, enough said above
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salsa1
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posted February 15, 2008 06:15 AM
quote]LMAO no reason for me to even comment, enough said above
comon stevewfl ....comment!!!.. you know you want to......
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zx1kr
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posted February 15, 2008 10:10 AM
Who's Dyno charts are those?
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Bulers
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posted February 15, 2008 11:04 AM
Fo those that have not seen it yet, somebody has posted the whole MCN comparison here - http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=43555&page=3
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salsa1
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posted February 15, 2008 01:36 PM
http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=43555&page=3
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08blade
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posted February 15, 2008 01:38 PM
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Who's Dyno charts are those?
The info came from an unbiased member who does his own builds (he got them from one of his Euro contacts). I dunno who actually did the runs but they are from Euro spec bikes.
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zx1kr
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posted February 15, 2008 03:45 PM
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Who's Dyno charts are those?
The info came from an unbiased member who does his own builds (he got them from one of his Euro contacts). I dunno who actually did the runs but they are from Euro spec bikes.
I'd not put too much weight in the graphs just yet. An unbiased member who got them from his euro contacts isn't workin' for me.
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08blade
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posted February 15, 2008 05:39 PM
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I'd not put too much weight in the graphs just yet. An unbiased member who got them from his euro contacts isn't workin' for me.
I am not trying to impress, persuade, or convince you so ...
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YZF
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posted February 16, 2008 08:29 AM
Edited By: YZF on 16 Feb 2008 08:37
fish> you need to compare tuned 08blade vs stock zx10r to have better midrange on honda?? ROTFL
On MCN dyno (and other dynos too), 08blade DOES NOT HAVE midrange advantage. But those tests were made with both bikes stock...OPPPS
Show me where is midrange advantage here? LOL
at 6000rpm: +- equally
7000rpm: zx10r has more power
8000rpm-10000rpm: +-equally
10000-13000rpm: zx10r much more power.
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YZF
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posted February 16, 2008 08:44 AM
Edited By: YZF on 16 Feb 2008 08:48
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Who's Dyno charts are those?
The info came from an unbiased member who does his own builds (he got them from one of his Euro contacts). I dunno who actually did the runs but they are from Euro spec bikes.
ROTFL LOL
Since When does 08CBR make true 13500rpm on dyno?? Even more than ZX10R??
And since when it has less power at the lower revvs (4000rpms?) LOL
That blade, (if it is from blade anyway, and not gixxer or R1) has full pipes and PCIII at least, because curve is much smother and has typical "low down high up" readings.
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Bulers
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posted February 16, 2008 10:15 AM
Thanks for providing the evidence of your own lies, saves the rest of us a job. How's your eyesight? You havent even got to read words, just lines, but you managed to get it wrong.
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08blade
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posted February 16, 2008 03:56 PM
Edited By: 08blade on 16 Feb 2008 16:41
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fish> you need to compare tuned 08blade vs stock zx10r to have better midrange on honda?? ROTFL
They were both (the Honda and the Kawi and the others as well) mapped with a PCIII installed. Even on the MCN graph (stock vs. stock) the Honda has a stronger midrange so whatyoutalkinbout Willis?
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Since When does 08CBR make true 13500rpm on dyno??
Of course you own one so you would know. LOL The CBR stopped making power before 12k.
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That blade, (if it is from blade anyway, and not gixxer or R1) has full pipes and PCIII at least, because curve is much smother and has typical "low down high up" readings.
Funny, to me the line looks close to what MCN put up. Get to the doctor fast kid. You're going blind! LOL
According to a tuner from the U.K. the Blade he got was very rich out of the crate so with a propper mapping you get an improvement in power.
I say again ...
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Thanks for providing the evidence of your own lies, saves the rest of us a job. How's your eyesight? You havent even got to read words, just lines, but you managed to get it wrong.
ROFL
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salsa1
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posted February 16, 2008 09:03 PM
Nice comeback YZF...
I don't care what anybody says.. you are alright....
Honda sucks.. and it's uglier.... 
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