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posted May 04, 2007 10:15 PM        
9.84 second quarter 1098S

This month's Cycle World Magazine got my attention with the 9.84 number on the cover. Then they mention they paid 20K for the bike and put 3K in "minor" aftermarket stuff and its performs "with a 2007 ZX10"

Oh well, was some good reading anyway
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posted May 08, 2007 06:58 AM        
...maybe some fickle 1098s w/mods owner will tire of his/hers and sell it cheap to me one day on a Starbucks parking lot
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posted May 14, 2007 12:01 PM        
20k / get out of here you got to be kiddn
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posted May 14, 2007 06:23 PM        
...no, he's not kiddin'....and don't ever question fishbreath's choice of bike....ever....
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posted May 15, 2007 06:52 AM        
thats real fasssst /whew how will i ever be able to hold on what a bargin
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posted May 15, 2007 06:53 AM        
thast was a joke
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posted May 15, 2007 10:07 AM        
....11K~13K for stock ZX14 + 3K for paint bling + 3K for mag or CF wheels + 1K for exhaust + 300 for PC + 300~600 for rear sets + 2K for suspension mods = +/- 21K for one's own non-Italian poison...its all the same amount of money...how one spends it is one's own business, right?...one certainly looks sexier that the other, but even that would be in the eyes of the beholder
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posted May 15, 2007 11:48 AM        
that at least we can agree on
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posted June 02, 2007 03:46 PM        
$23,000 is too much for a bike, but I'm shocked to see a V-Twin bike that was designed soley for the road course run a 9.8 as I can't think of one aspect of the bike that was designed for drag racing. I wonder what the hp/torque curve looks like after the $3000 mods? I hope they didn't lowwer it.
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posted June 02, 2007 07:45 PM        
OK - keep in mind adam that the $3,000 in mods was just a pipe and can. Granted a VERY expensive one that comes with its own ECU and air filter - but that was it. No other mods - not even a custom map on a power commander .
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zx12adam


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posted June 02, 2007 08:50 PM        
Well, ECU's can be pricey...


...$3000 for a pipe, ECU, and an air filter? Crist, that IS alot of money. Do they come from the factory completely restricted or something? What does the base and after hp/tq curves look like to cost that much?

Oh well, like I said, $23,000 is way too much for a bike, it's certainly not bang for the buck but good on them for making a high 9 Ducati.

Now if they could just do it for under $15000 and move the valve adjustments to...

... then it wouldn't be a Ducati anymore I guess.
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posted June 02, 2007 09:13 PM        
heheeh check out the "regular" 1098. Its about 15K. Get a cheaper pipe and a power commander and ti will probaBLY Be faster in the 1/4 mile.
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posted June 03, 2007 08:09 AM        
You guys don't know when you are well off...$23,000 too much for a motorcycle....I had to pay the equivalent of $30,000 for my Tricolore here in the UK!!
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posted June 03, 2007 09:04 AM        
How do you like the tricolore? I had the option of buying one when purchasing my "regular" 1098, but I wimped out (high price tag). The tricolore looked AMAZING though. Color scheme looks great in person. Right now, I'm hopin gto get a year or so out of the 1098.. then maybe trade up to a 1098r .
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posted June 03, 2007 09:26 PM        
quote:
....11K~13K for stock ZX14 + 3K for paint bling + 3K for mag or CF wheels + 1K for exhaust + 300 for PC + 300~600 for rear sets + 2K for suspension mods = +/- 21K for one's own non-Italian poison...its all the same amount of money...how one spends it is one's own business, right?...one certainly looks sexier that the other, but even that would be in the eyes of the beholder


worm note the topic, for 23K they made a bike run a 9.84 quarter. Why would you spend all what I just quoted you above on a ZX14? For MUCH less it'll cover the Duc and then some.
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posted June 03, 2007 09:51 PM        
Well, if its JUST the 1/4 mile you are doing - then the '14 is a better platform... but I think that most people have all kinds of other reasons to own the 1098. Also consider this Steve, the base 1098 is about 15~16K. The mod suggested that made the 1098s run that 9.84 1/4 is also available for the base 1098 ($2,800 mod) - bringing the total to 18~19K. Also - the 9.84 1/4 mile run did not include any custom mapping on a pc-IIIr, did not include strapping the bike down etc etc. prolly can shave a bit more off with some of those simple steps. Other suggestion - get a cheaper pipe and a pc-iii - total cost $1,500 I'm guessing - may turn faster 1/4 mile times... who knows - lets wait and see what people get out of the 1098. This bike has SOOO much un-tapped potential!
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posted June 03, 2007 10:51 PM        
Man I hate insomnia! Steve, I have a quick question for you. I haven't been following the zx-14's too closely. What kind of 1/4 mile times are they producing with a pipe? I'm betting the '14 is cheaper to extend the swing arm on.... =P.
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posted June 05, 2007 09:35 PM        
I wonder how much it would cost to make a ZX14 handle as well as the 1098(and weigh as much)?

-All carbon fiber body work(Upper, lowwer, tank cover, fender, and single seat tail)
-Replace headlights with AAA Mag light
-Remove mirrors
-Carbon fiber wheels
-Tianium/carbon fiber high mount exhaust(remove passneger pegs)
-Carbon fiber gas tank
-Halve tail section
-Carbon fiber case covers
-Carbon fiber valve cover
-Billet oil pan
-Ohlins forks
-Penske/Ohlins shock
-Brembo brakes
-Ceramic rotors front and rear
-Steering damper
-Rearsets
-Steeper steering head angle
-Shorten wheelbase
-Anything else carbon fiber
-Everything else carbon fiber
-$$$$$?
-Still too heavy
-Frame is too weak in some areas
-Frame is too stiff in others
-Still doesn't handle like a 1098


Oh that's right, the ZX14 was never designed for road racing; just as the 1098 was never designed for drag racing. A 9.8 is impressive for a V-Twin, road race designed, Ducati under $20K(but still too expensive.... for me).
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posted June 06, 2007 01:06 AM        
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I wonder how much it would cost to make a ZX14 handle as well as the 1098(and weigh as much)?

-All carbon fiber body work(Upper, lowwer, tank cover, fender, and single seat tail)
-Replace headlights with AAA Mag light
-Remove mirrors
-Carbon fiber wheels
-Tianium/carbon fiber high mount exhaust(remove passneger pegs)
-Carbon fiber gas tank
-Halve tail section
-Carbon fiber case covers
-Carbon fiber valve cover
-Billet oil pan
-Ohlins forks
-Penske/Ohlins shock
-Brembo brakes
-Ceramic rotors front and rear
-Steering damper
-Rearsets
-Steeper steering head angle
-Shorten wheelbase
-Anything else carbon fiber
-Everything else carbon fiber
-$$$$$?
-Still too heavy
-Frame is too weak in some areas
-Frame is too stiff in others
-Still doesn't handle like a 1098


Oh that's right, the ZX14 was never designed for road racing; just as the 1098 was never designed for drag racing. A 9.8 is impressive for a V-Twin, road race designed, Ducati under $20K(but still too expensive.... for me).




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posted July 17, 2007 05:42 AM        
Why do you compare ZX14 vs Duc? Take ZX10R ! ITs is light, it is faster (stock), and it is cheaper....fuk italians.

9.7sec 1/4mile for stock ZX10R. I like.


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posted July 17, 2007 08:00 AM        
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Why do you compare ZX14 vs Duc? Take ZX10R ! ITs is light, it is faster (stock), and it is cheaper....fuk italians.

9.7sec 1/4mile for stock ZX10R. I like.




That maybe true, but at the end of the day you'd still have a ZX10R, which is about as exotic as a 15 stone lap dancer named Candy.
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posted August 28, 2007 08:37 AM        Edited By: Sticks_n_Stones on 28 Aug 2007 09:38
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Why do you compare ZX14 vs Duc? Take ZX10R ! ITs is light, it is faster (stock), and it is cheaper....fuk italians.
9.7sec 1/4mile for stock ZX10R. I like.

That maybe true, but at the end of the day you'd still have a ZX10R, which is about as exotic as a 15 stone lap dancer named Candy.

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Let's face it guys, Ducati's are cool, different, and even ancient ones still attract alot of attention where ever they go. When's the last time you stopped to look over a "vintage" GS750ES? point made. Course, I'll still keep my TL1000R and beat most of the 1098 riders out there in the twisties and straights-race ecu or not. Skillz can't be bought, they are earned. And not many 1098 owners are as willing to wreck there bikes as I am to prove it.
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posted October 06, 2007 11:00 AM        
funny the latest test vs 1000s on sport bike had the 1098 as the slowest 1/4 in the 10's behind suzuki,kaw,honda,yamaha. that was just the liter bikes, not "open class"
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posted October 08, 2007 01:13 PM        
thats because for the article this thread was written about the 1098 had some serious gearing mods done to it. it was only mention once, a one sentence statement that because of the gearing the demo bike had it could only do 158mph or 160 mph (been awhile since I read it). thats a pretty serious gear change and fully explains the unusual 1/4 mile times they got. I would assume that makes a big difference in first gear, but you arent going to road race a 1000 that 'only' hits 160mph.
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