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posted May 22, 2014 07:58 AM
2015 ZX14 Predictions?
The 10R and 60 are a goose egg for 2015 - that leaves the 14 up for grabs.
Predictions?
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cliffrandall
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posted May 22, 2014 08:52 AM
Launch control.
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fish_antlers
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posted May 22, 2014 09:21 AM
Weight reduction?
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zixxer14
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posted May 22, 2014 01:14 PM
Kawi sells out to Suzi & all models are scrapped, the Busa will rule again!
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Shane661
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posted May 22, 2014 01:17 PM
BNG. Maybe Ohlins. No incentive to change.
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fish_antlers
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posted May 22, 2014 04:30 PM
 Edited By: fish_antlers on 23 May 2014 01:21
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BNG. Maybe Ohlins. No incentive to change.
Untrue. A reasonable guess would be at least new bodywork. The dies used for pressing the panels will be at the end of their life span - most likely a rework of shape will be in order.
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posted May 22, 2014 04:31 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 23 May 2014 00:32
3 new bold colors blue, green, black
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zx12mark
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posted May 22, 2014 06:44 PM
Not till the year after the new busa will we see a new kaw replacement..It will then be the supercharged engine.Fuck that ugly bird...haha
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ZXLNT
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posted May 22, 2014 08:04 PM
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BNG. Maybe Ohlins. No incentive to change.
Untrue. A reasonable guess would be at least new bodywork. The dies used for pressing the panels will be at the end of their life span - most likely a rework of shape will be in order.
1st gen bodywork was the same for what? 6 years? Should be able to get 4 more years out of the 2nd gen bodywork dies then right?
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posted May 22, 2014 08:35 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 23 May 2014 05:34
Not true. Some changes were made each generation. Dies are only good for a certain amount of impressions. Generation updates are directly tied to making new dies. It's one of the major factors that drive bodywork updates.
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BrucerZX14
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posted May 23, 2014 08:05 PM
Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll use a similar set up like their Jet Ski with 310 HP. 1500cc supercharged. Hell yea...over 300 HP from the factory. Won't happen but it sure is nice to dream.
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ZXLNT
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posted May 24, 2014 01:31 AM
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Not true. Some changes were made each generation. Dies are only good for a certain amount of impressions. Generation updates are directly tied to making new dies. It's one of the major factors that drive bodywork updates.
Can you elaborate on the changes on the bodywork from 2006-2011
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posted May 24, 2014 03:34 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 24 May 2014 23:40
2012 undoubtedly saw changes. I'd have to go through the memory banks to see which if any pieces were changed in 2012 vs previous years (drinking by a campfire while posting may blur facts  ) but one could assume that there can be a tapered / minor update vs a major bodywork update pending depending on which components were produced and when the lifespan of the dies was due: ie redo front and side fairing 2012 and then redo remaining 2015 or redo front and side in 2012 but with a lower quality die good for less impressions (take for instance the 600 and 1000 which were on a 2 year cycle) and then have a total redo for 2015. Lots of different factors go into model year changes.
Those friggin busa dies must be made out of something impossible. Either that or zook is so broke that it's cheaper to spit out replacement dies than it is to pay a design team to craft up worth while changes and relaunch their machine. (I take option b  )
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posted May 24, 2014 03:41 PM
fish your full of shit
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posted May 24, 2014 04:45 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 25 May 2014 00:50
Nope. Might have a few drinks in me but I speak da truth. You can like it or lump it but that stuff's not made up. In fact if we knew the exact numbers of various models produced we could accurately predict the bodywork change intervals - they like to keep that stuff under wraps though  if there's one thing they're good at, it's math, and all this shit is mathed out well in advance.
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posted May 27, 2014 08:33 PM
Lighter weight wheels and more aerodynamic bodywork.
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ZXLNT
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posted May 27, 2014 08:45 PM
Soo no solid proof on bodywork changes from 2006-2011 only assumptions.. Thanks..
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posted May 28, 2014 05:20 AM
Built in radar detection & jammer!
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fish_antlers
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posted May 28, 2014 11:57 AM
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Soo no solid proof on bodywork changes from 2006-2011 only assumptions.. Thanks..
Not in this campsite in the Redwood Forest. Not exactly "research central" here. Good river relaxation though!
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posted May 29, 2014 10:23 PM
Edited By: Gunner on 30 May 2014 06:27
BOLD NEW GRAPHICS !!!! Hell they're so lazy they aren't even building on the WSB Championship platform to keep that title... They'll keep sending the same BS out there until they can no longer win a race and then they'll do like they always have... Just pull out and quit.. I'm surprised they stuck with WSB long enough to win the thing... 2015 and they're going to send Tom back out there with the same bike he's been racing for the last 4 years... Come on Kawasaki you know that won't fly!
As for the 14R........... It's on top of the world and has been for a couple years now... Again just like they are doing in WSB they won't do shit until they are sucking air and have to.... Look for new graphics
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posted May 30, 2014 07:18 AM
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BOLD NEW GRAPHICS !!!! Hell they're so lazy they aren't even building on the WSB Championship platform to keep that title... They'll keep sending the same BS out there until they can no longer win a race and then they'll do like they always have... Just pull out and quit.. I'm surprised they stuck with WSB long enough to win the thing... 2015 and they're going to send Tom back out there with the same bike he's been racing for the last 4 years... Come on Kawasaki you know that won't fly!
As for the 14R........... It's on top of the world and has been for a couple years now... Again just like they are doing in WSB they won't do shit until they are sucking air and have to.... Look for new graphics
What have the other guys done . maybe change the rules so you can run a 3000cc Ducati
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posted June 15, 2014 02:54 AM
Let's go with 2/3 new colors and a SE edition that is similar to the ZX6 and 10. Possibly the SE improvements
Will include LED headlamps and all receive slight mod to the face. All else stays the same.
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posted June 17, 2014 01:07 PM
Colors... maybe stickers.
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Gunner
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posted June 18, 2014 09:37 AM
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Colors... maybe stickers.
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Well I called it Bold New Graphics but I think we agree here....
Historically Kawasaki don't give anything more until they are forced into it. If Suzuki doesn't see fit to attempt regaining it's Busa market share or aren't financially stable enough to commit to new development to regain their Busa market I doubt we'll ever see anything more powerful than the 14R.
It is interesting that Suzuki seems to be spending money again is WSB and MotoGp development after dropping out of both over money reasons.
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