c-low
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posted March 29, 2013 11:28 PM
brocks or muzzy
i have a 06 with a full muzzy exhaust does the brocks full exhaust with the can flow a lot better or is it not that much power difference for the money to buy a new exhaust and does the brocks with the can flow better or worse than the meg and short meg help please thanks for any response
  
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eklipse636
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posted March 30, 2013 01:56 AM
"Flow better"- are you asking if it makes more hp?
If that's what your asking, no Brock's doesn't make enough go difference to worry about switching. Brock's map support and customer service runs all over muzzy.
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8.89 mph 151.32
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c-low
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posted March 30, 2013 08:34 AM
yea should i switch or tune as is was my ????im 6'1
' 1 down and 2 up 167 pounds i wanna go 5.95 constantly im sure its in my ridingi go low 6s all da time 6.10 only been 6.01 once
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codyc_13
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posted March 30, 2013 11:45 AM
What is your wheelbase??
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06 zx14, 65", lowered, muzzy pipe, pcIII, air shifter, Litz revalve, Adams cut seat, OSR cut pan 87 pump gas.
8.97 at 149mph
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c-low
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posted March 30, 2013 02:23 PM
Im about 6" over my 60' are like 1.4... i run a hook up average launch 6k
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c-low
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posted March 30, 2013 02:24 PM
Flies out not dyno tuned yet my friends say da brocks will add 3 to 5 hp
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codyc_13
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posted March 30, 2013 07:42 PM
What is your 330' and mph? I have about the same mods and run 5.75-5.85, muzzy seems to be making plenty of power for me.
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06 zx14, 65", lowered, muzzy pipe, pcIII, air shifter, Litz revalve, Adams cut seat, OSR cut pan 87 pump gas.
8.97 at 149mph
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eklipse636
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posted March 30, 2013 09:19 PM
Your friends showing their knowledge on exhaust systems.
Now it could if you use Brock's exhaust/map combo vs muzzy exhaust and muzzy map, but the map is more crucial than what exhaust is on it.
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Best: 60ft 1.351 1/8 5.68 mph 123.98 1/4
8.89 mph 151.32
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c-low
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posted March 30, 2013 09:45 PM
tickets are in my jacket n da shed let u knw tomorrow but seem like i run 138 140 something in da quarter and 112 up n da teens n da 8th ill look tomorrow i know 60' gotta come down from 1.5 high 1.4s im not gone bother with replacing exhaust ime freshen up clutches tune and get more seat time maybe head port depending on price ....what do yall think....my goal is 5.90s cause i got myn pc3 from nelson on here a while back from tx i think and i remember he rode same year model gearing and all but stock wheelbase 5.95
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eklipse636
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posted March 31, 2013 04:42 AM
I'm not sure your understanding what I'm saying.
With stock exhaust at over 200lbs I still went 117-118 mph in 1-8 and 144-145 in 1/4.
Check your clutch stack height to make sure it is still in correct range.
Take your bike to a Dyno and get it tuned. If your going to do head work, wait and have it tuned afterward.
What map do you have in it now?
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8.89 mph 151.32
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codyc_13
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posted March 31, 2013 11:36 AM
Yeah, your mph is off. Check your stack height. I'm 210 suited and go 121 in the 1/8 and 149-150 in the 1/4
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06 zx14, 65", lowered, muzzy pipe, pcIII, air shifter, Litz revalve, Adams cut seat, OSR cut pan 87 pump gas.
8.97 at 149mph
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eklipse636
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posted March 31, 2013 11:58 AM
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Yeah, your mph is off. Check your stack height. I'm 210 suited and go 121 in the 1/8 and 149-150 in the 1/4
^yep
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Best: 60ft 1.351 1/8 5.68 mph 123.98 1/4
8.89 mph 151.32
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MotoCycho
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posted March 31, 2013 01:22 PM
Maybe he is at elevation? Seems to be a forgotten factor in all these conversations.
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biggmoinc
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posted March 31, 2013 02:21 PM
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Yeah, your mph is off. Check your stack height. I'm 210 suited and go 121 in the 1/8 and 149-150 in the 1/4
Sure would like to try ur map! I went 121 n 148, but usually 147, 6.02/9.32, I have 07 with flies out, muzzy m14, bmc race filter, 66" auto shift with 10800 pill, 1.54 60' 16/44 gearing, thing is I have a Brock's flies out street map in it now only because I saw that a lot of guys with flies out goes extremely lean n lower rpm, I will get it tuned in august but would definitely try another Muzzy flies out map
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biggmoinc
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posted March 31, 2013 02:26 PM
Oh n my friend that's 50-60 lb lighter went 1.45/5.88@120/9.11@150,
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07 ZX14 bmc filter, muzzy m14, 16/44,66",auto shift, 6'3, 204lbs/1.54/3.99/6.03@120/7.8/9.32@147
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c-low
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posted March 31, 2013 03:11 PM
my 330 is from 4.10 to like 4.20 out of various passes the top 1/4 speed was 138 i had a 137 MAN I JUST DONT KNOW!
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c-low
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posted March 31, 2013 03:20 PM
EXPLAIN TO ME THE STACK HEIGHT PLEASE...I TOOK THE STOCK CLUTCHES OUT AND PUT CYCLE CONCEPTS DRAG PAK IN WITH BROCKS SPACERS I HAVE SPRINGS ALSO BUT DIDNT PUT THOSE IN I TOOK THE STOCK OUT AND PUT DRAG PAK IN THE SAME NUMBER OF METALS AND FIBERS IN THE SAME ORDER NO MORE NO LESS THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT THAT WAS MAYBE 2 YEARS AGO.......I WAS THINKING MAYBE I NEED FRESH ONES I RIDE 2 HRS FROM TROY TO PC BEACH FL TWICE A YEAR AND DUE TO JOB MAYBE 5 TRIPS TO THTE TRACK A YEAR I DONT BURN CLUTCHES ON THE LINE IVE BEEN LETTING GO AND RIDING IT OUT TIL RECENTLY IM DRAGGING OFF THE LINE A LIL MORE AND KEEPN TIRE DOWN BUT NUMBERS AINT THERE ...MORE RPM MAYBE ON LAUNCH FRESH CLUTCHES IDK!!!!I KNOW MORE SEAT TIME BUT STILL I FEEL NUMBERS SHOULD BE BETTER IM NO ROOKIE ON A BIKE ..IM RUNNING THE SAME MAP NELSON ON HERE WAS RUNNING CAUSE SETUP WAS DA SAME EXCEPT IM STRETCHED
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c-low
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posted March 31, 2013 03:24 PM
SO THE BROCKS IS NOT PRODUCING ENOUGH HP TO CHANGE UP WHAT DO YALL THINK ABOUT THE PORT JOB ????OR WHAT HP SHOULD IT DYNO WITH A TUNE LIKE IT IS AND MAYBE AFTER THE PORT ...SORRY FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS U GUYS
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biggmoinc
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posted March 31, 2013 04:07 PM
I'm no fast guy like the rest but ur MPH is low, where do u shift on ur tach, if your shifting at 10800 indicated then ur short shifting, shift around 11200-11400 indicated on tach, I have a shift pill set at 10800 n when it shifts my tach is around 11400 indicated
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07 ZX14 bmc filter, muzzy m14, 16/44,66",auto shift, 6'3, 204lbs/1.54/3.99/6.03@120/7.8/9.32@147
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c-low
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posted March 31, 2013 07:55 PM
im in ala was racing in montgmery fri night which made me strike this convo up
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c-low
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posted April 12, 2013 02:19 PM
Flies out not dyno tuned yet my friends say da brocks will add 3 to 5 hp
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eklipse636
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posted April 12, 2013 07:24 PM
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Flies out not dyno tuned yet my friends say da brocks will add 3 to 5 hp
We're not saying Brock's won't gain hp, were trying to say your issue isn't the exhaust. Your mph is being lost somewhere else. Pull your clutches and measure stack height. After two ears of riding and drag racing I'm sure you put some wear on them.
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8.89 mph 151.32
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SteddyTeddy
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posted April 13, 2013 07:46 AM
A 4.10 to 4.20 330' is pretty crappy. Actually is REALLY CRAPPY! Your not riding the bike even close to its full potential.
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eklipse636
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posted April 13, 2013 07:24 PM
Just checked time slip from last weekend and mine was 5.704 to 5.72
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Best: 60ft 1.351 1/8 5.68 mph 123.98 1/4
8.89 mph 151.32
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Brock
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posted April 26, 2013 06:34 AM
 Edited By: Brock on 26 Apr 2013 14:45
Ask me the stack height on any one of the 3 ZX-14's I own... I can't tell you, I have NEVER measured it, because it DOESN'T matter.
Of course, this is assuming you:
1. Don't have a lock-up, slider or multistage
2. Follow the basic maintenance principles outlined in your service manual
3. Use only OEM steels/fibers
4. Use Brock's performance clutch mods and springs ( or cushion, where applicable)
There... that should jack up some Internet bench racers 
Brock
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