zx12mark
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posted October 22, 2012 07:56 PM
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Whats the burn look like on your ct exhaust and with what map.
Do you guys notice your set up burns rich in the tip outlet.Then when i ran the db killer for a week and pulled it out it turned very dark dry brown.On the current mpg read out the mileage went up 2 mpg.I cant run 150 mph everywhere so the ram air can lean it out.Maybe a race air filter would lean it out slightly.
   
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epd345
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posted October 22, 2012 08:14 PM
Rich equals longer engine life so for me I would prefer a on the rich side map.
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zx12mark
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posted October 22, 2012 08:37 PM
yes richer runs cooler but leaner makes more power.When i go to the track that`s what i want .slightly lean.Street riding i want it like you said.
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smokinZX14
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posted October 22, 2012 08:50 PM
Don't sweat the color .. Just because it's black doesn't mean it rich .. Unleaded fuels with all the crap they add causes it to look black no matter what .. Now get some leaded race gas and run it and it will be light gray with the same map .. Can't go by color like we did in the old days of leaded fuels ..
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posted October 23, 2012 05:15 AM
Rich here also, a little never dull takes it right off and makes it look new
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zx12mark
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posted October 23, 2012 06:20 AM
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Don't sweat the color .. Just because it's black doesn't mean it rich .. Unleaded fuels with all the crap they add causes it to look black no matter what .. Now get some leaded race gas and run it and it will be light gray with the same map .. Can't go by color like we did in the old days of leaded fuels ..
Thanks Lee.I did not know that..If you keep trying you will never stop learning.And i got a lot to learn.
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joseph702
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posted October 23, 2012 07:16 AM
Lean don't always build power. Old saying lean is mean but fat is we're it's at. Not a 2 stroke and from what I see 12.8-9 works best. And like lee said the crap they put in fucks with the readings. On my race sled I run race fuel just so I can see .
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Kawifast
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posted October 23, 2012 07:52 AM
I don't see a lot of brown at the tip of my CT duals, although I do suspect Brocks street map is a tad rich due to the faint but obvious gas smell at cruise. The bike runs fantastic with the CT duals and street map 2.
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zx12mark
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posted October 23, 2012 08:39 AM
judging by reading brocks maps the 14r come rich from the factory.It just smell out of tune but runs very good.The idle pulse`s are`nt smooth and it seems to stack them on top of each other a little. My zx12r was way rich also.The custom map i had made leaned the 12 out a hole lot..It really fly`s but not like this 14r.
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Kawifast
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posted October 23, 2012 09:09 AM
Did your 12 run brisker after you leaned it out?
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posted October 23, 2012 12:20 PM
My data logger says lean on mine and it likes it, tried 12.9-13.0 and it slowed down.
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joseph702
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posted October 23, 2012 01:12 PM
maybe with my 60/40 cut head the burn is a lil diffrent.
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Kawifast
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posted October 23, 2012 01:41 PM
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My data logger says lean on mine and it likes it, tried 12.9-13.0 and it slowed down.
wee
Thats been my experience. Guess I'll pay a visit to a tuner. Been hesitant to do that since Brocks map runs so damn good. Thinking of Dale at CycleWerkz in Ft Worth or Jim Sabin at Sabin Performance. Do you have a solid DFW reccomendation?
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posted October 23, 2012 01:53 PM
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My data logger says lean on mine and it likes it, tried 12.9-13.0 and it slowed down.
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Thats been my experience. Guess I'll pay a visit to a tuner. Been hesitant to do that since Brocks map runs so damn good. Thinking of Dale at CycleWerkz in Ft Worth or Jim Sabin at Sabin Performance. Do you have a solid DFW reccomendation?
Ive tried tweeking Brocks map with no success at wot, part throttle could possible be tweeked, Sabin
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zx12mark
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posted October 23, 2012 02:21 PM
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Did your 12 run brisker after you leaned it out?
Yes sir. It just rips the rear tire on the street when i jump on it.My 14r is just fucking retarded to the rear tire on the street so far.If i have t/c on #1 setting before i get to 6 grand it`s cutting out like a rev limiter when on a asphalt road.I just leave it off and modulate the throttle a little.
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