kawasakijockey
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posted October 21, 2012 06:18 PM
Pistons and rods for boost
Gonna go ahead and do pistons and maybe rods in the turbo 14 since my racing season is over till March. Want to keep the compression up to 11.0-12.0 so the bike still has some responsiveness. The only pistons that I can find so far are the MTC Tall Deck 11.0 to 1 which require a 2mm shorter rod. Any experience with these pistons? Opinions welcome.
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2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
  
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posted October 21, 2012 06:20 PM
How much power are you looking to make?
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 21, 2012 06:34 PM
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How much power are you looking to make?
No more than I got now for a while, 250hp.
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2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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codyc_13
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posted October 21, 2012 07:24 PM
Done for the year James?
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KZScott
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posted October 22, 2012 07:15 AM
My turbo 12 is running MTC pistons. they are very heavy duty. I have the Muzzy spec design which uses an 18mm pin instead of 21 and moves the rings down instead of adding material on the top. way thicker above the valve reliefs (where the JEs cracked) had to bush the rods to make it all work.
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Slow14_Fz1
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posted October 22, 2012 12:39 PM
I have the 9.5:1 JE pistons and Carrillo rods and haven't had any problems I have mine at 17lbs
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boostphreak
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posted October 23, 2012 09:47 AM
Iam running JE pistons with srock rods with 15 lbs of boost with no issues for 2 yrs now
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 23, 2012 03:10 PM
Who has the best price going for Carrilllo rods??
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2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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Slow14_Fz1
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posted October 23, 2012 04:11 PM
I got mine from Schnitz Racing
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 28, 2012 08:16 AM
I didn't want to mention engine damage until I confirmed it wasnt just a head gasket. Looks like detonation to me for some reason I can't explain yet, no cylinder damage. Hit the rev limiter once and momentarily and the bike was missing on a cylinder. Saw smoke at the vent the next morning. Stock compression, stock timing, cr10ei plugs, 105 octane, at 5-6lbs boost.
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Get on the shortbus boys 'cause its time to get schooled.
2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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kawpower
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posted October 28, 2012 01:02 PM
No matter which pistons and rods u use ,unless u find out what caused this damage it will happen again .
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kawpower
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posted October 28, 2012 01:08 PM
OH and i runn JE custom spec Jones performance cycles pistons,and CROWER rods at 15lbs of boost and over 100 passes an its still good.
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 28, 2012 02:59 PM
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No matter which pistons and rods u use ,unless u find out what caused this damage it will happen again .
Well, that definately goes without saying. I enjoyed building engines as a young man but not anymore.
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Get on the shortbus boys 'cause its time to get schooled.
2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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Rickey Gadson
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posted October 28, 2012 04:33 PM
I have a set of used rods (carrillo) for 450.00
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Oz Booster
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posted October 29, 2012 03:31 AM
If the zx is like the busa rev limiter, they pull half the fuel from a couple of cyls for a soft rev limiter just before the hard limiter, that used to kill a lot of busas untill you could flash the soft cut out
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posted October 29, 2012 11:55 AM
j&e teflon sided,ceramic topped,18psi--no probs
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posted October 29, 2012 02:45 PM
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I have a set of used rods (carrillo) for 450.00
autographed....
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posted October 29, 2012 03:29 PM
 Edited By: 1badzx12r on 29 Oct 2012 23:32
james you will learn alot more about turbo and e85 over here http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/index.php?topic=159816.0;topicseen that on a zx14 site..
oh and they do talk about zx14's over there without members getting butt hurt like over here ..
http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/index.php?topic=159824.0;topicseen
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posted October 30, 2012 08:12 AM
that was definatelty a fuel related detonation, no carbon at the burn.
#4 is notorious for running the hottest in the coolant circuit at the thermostat
and #4 will lose fuel pressure before the others with stock fuel rail, if an injector locks open, or the fp dumps for some reason
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posted October 30, 2012 01:17 PM
Was this the 2012 R ?
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 30, 2012 02:05 PM
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that was definatelty a fuel related detonation, no carbon at the burn.
#4 is notorious for running the hottest in the coolant circuit at the thermostat
and #4 will lose fuel pressure before the others with stock fuel rail, if an injector locks open, or the fp dumps for some reason
Exactly what I think too, fuel. 100-105 octane was "supposed" to work out with stock ignition timing and 12:1 compression. But if you really figure it to boost ratio it is 15.5 :1 compression.
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Get on the shortbus boys 'cause its time to get schooled.
2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 30, 2012 02:05 PM
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Was this the 2012 R ?
No, an 07.
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2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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posted October 30, 2012 03:20 PM
What is your Turbos A/R ?
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 30, 2012 05:47 PM
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What is your Turbos A/R ?
.48
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Get on the shortbus boys 'cause its time to get schooled.
2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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Romans
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posted October 31, 2012 07:50 AM
Is it possible that the .48 A/R played a role with to much back pressure ?
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