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posted September 17, 2012 01:07 PM
 Edited By: smokinZX14 on 17 Sep 2012 23:33
Question for guys using the pilot power one 2ct for drag racing
Are you guys doing a long or short burnout with the pilot power one 2ct ? what works better ? also what air pressure works better on the strip ? I have been using shinkos so i have no info on this 2 CT tire ..
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posted September 18, 2012 04:33 AM
Lee are you planning on using the Power One or the Pilot Power 2ct?
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posted September 18, 2012 04:47 AM
I just bought a rear off of ebay for $150.00 brand new power one race compound
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posted September 18, 2012 06:14 AM
Lee,
I was using the Power Ones back when I used to race. As you know, I was at 69", and never had traction issues. I would do about 3-4 seconds in the middle, 3-4 seconds on each side, and then start rolling out forward for a second or two. The lifespan was incredible, considering the softness of the tire. I was running between 15-20 psi depending on track conditions.
Make sure you use the regular over the counter Power One and not the 'Race' version. I was told by Richie that the 'Race' version had a different, stiffer carcass for road racing.
Hope this helps.
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posted September 18, 2012 07:44 AM
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Lee,
I was using the Power Ones back when I used to race. As you know, I was at 69", and never had traction issues. I would do about 3-4 seconds in the middle, 3-4 seconds on each side, and then start rolling out forward for a second or two. The lifespan was incredible, considering the softness of the tire. I was running between 15-20 psi depending on track conditions.
Make sure you use the regular over the counter Power One and not the 'Race' version. I was told by Richie that the 'Race' version had a different, stiffer carcass for road racing.
Hope this helps.
-Patrick
Thanks Pat .. The tire just has power one 2ct on it .. It doesn't say "race " on it .. It looks like a shinko as far as tread pattern goes ..
Thanks again Pat ..
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posted September 18, 2012 07:46 AM
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Lee are you planning on using the Power One or the Pilot Power 2ct?
Power one , just like the first picture on the right side..
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posted September 18, 2012 09:35 AM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 18 Sep 2012 17:40
For me , it took a few passes and burn outs at low psi(8lb) to develop contact patch that would work for average to poor tracks. After that , I could use it with as much as 18psi, as I could with hookup .the pros to using the power is the reduced rolling resist.due to its shape and hard compound . However, it will lose traction due to the same factors,compared to the hookup. BLK ICE
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posted September 18, 2012 02:12 PM
Power1 2ct...
Lee, look on the tire for the oval on the throttle side of the bike and it should be blank...Thats the street tire...The road race tire will have an A, B, C in the oval...
Like Pat said 4 seconds on on each side then center & ride it out...
If I were you i'd have less air at Sunshine than Braidenton...
You'll see if you go out after the super comp cars you can run higher pressure like 25lbs. on a good prepped track...
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posted September 18, 2012 02:18 PM
I run 20lbs and I haven't had a spinning issue yet. I run 18-20 lbs.
I tried just cleaning the tire off one time, and didn't spin it long enough to create any smoke, and it spun. (so did 2 other people in front of me) but that's the only time it ever spun.
Mine says power one 2ct too
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posted September 18, 2012 04:03 PM
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Power1 2ct...
Lee, look on the tire for the oval on the throttle side of the bike and it should be blank...Thats the street tire...The road race tire will have an A, B, C in the oval...
Like Pat said 4 seconds on on each side then center & ride it out...
If I were you i'd have less air at Sunshine than Braidenton...
You'll see if you go out after the super comp cars you can run higher pressure like 25lbs. on a good prepped track...
Thanks Rick i'll check the tire and see what it has marked on it , if anything .. Rick i'm not joking about this , you can't get a stock wheel base 150cc scooter to hook at sunshine any more ..NO track prep at all , no pro cars anymore , no bikes anymore .. Fact, bracket night 3 cars showed up .. It is that bad and the guy doesn't give a crap and he will tell you so ..All he wants to do is run the roundy round track and drag racer suck balls .. All my testing is now at BMP ..
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posted September 18, 2012 04:04 PM
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I run 20lbs and I haven't had a spinning issue yet. I run 18-20 lbs.
I tried just cleaning the tire off one time, and didn't spin it long enough to create any smoke, and it spun. (so did 2 other people in front of me) but that's the only time it ever spun.
Mine says power one 2ct too
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posted September 18, 2012 04:20 PM
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Power1 2ct...
Lee, look on the tire for the oval on the throttle side of the bike and it should be blank...Thats the street tire...The road race tire will have an A, B, C in the oval...
Like Pat said 4 seconds on on each side then center & ride it out...
If I were you i'd have less air at Sunshine than Braidenton...
You'll see if you go out after the super comp cars you can run higher pressure like 25lbs. on a good prepped track...
Ok Rick i looked the tire and it has no A,B or C in the Oval or any place either for that matter .. So this is the power one 2CT street tire i guess ? Is this the tire i should be using ? Looks just like a shinko but it is taller even if it is marked 190/50 ..
Here is a picture if the power one i'm using and the shinko hookup i'm also using , you can see the power one has more crown than the hookup .. Taller also ..
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posted September 18, 2012 06:55 PM
I'm a believer in these michelins...
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posted September 18, 2012 07:51 PM
I've run both on shit track my hook up hooked like super glue power one spun half track one run hooked rest of day. But u feel the height in mph. Power one ran higher mph.
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posted September 19, 2012 03:20 AM
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Power1 2ct...
Lee, look on the tire for the oval on the throttle side of the bike and it should be blank...Thats the street tire...The road race tire will have an A, B, C in the oval...
Like Pat said 4 seconds on on each side then center & ride it out...
If I were you i'd have less air at Sunshine than Braidenton...
You'll see if you go out after the super comp cars you can run higher pressure like 25lbs. on a good prepped track...
Ok Rick i looked the tire and it has no A,B or C in the Oval or any place either for that matter .. So this is the power one 2CT street tire i guess ? Is this the tire i should be using ? Looks just like a shinko but it is taller even if it is marked 190/50 ..
Here is a picture if the power one i'm using and the shinko hookup i'm also using , you can see the power one has more crown than the hookup .. Taller also ..
Lee are these tires mounted on rims?
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posted September 19, 2012 08:20 AM
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Power1 2ct...
Lee, look on the tire for the oval on the throttle side of the bike and it should be blank...Thats the street tire...The road race tire will have an A, B, C in the oval...
Like Pat said 4 seconds on on each side then center & ride it out...
If I were you i'd have less air at Sunshine than Braidenton...
You'll see if you go out after the super comp cars you can run higher pressure like 25lbs. on a good prepped track...
Ok Rick i looked the tire and it has no A,B or C in the Oval or any place either for that matter .. So this is the power one 2CT street tire i guess ? Is this the tire i should be using ? Looks just like a shinko but it is taller even if it is marked 190/50 ..
Here is a picture if the power one i'm using and the shinko hookup i'm also using , you can see the power one has more crown than the hookup .. Taller also ..
Lee are these tires mounted on rims?
Yes they are ... Both have 17 psi in them ..
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posted September 19, 2012 03:52 PM
Thats the right tire Lee !!!
The Power1 compound is AWESOME...I have used mine for 2 full seasons now and still hook up no problem with 34lbs cold on a stock wheelbase...
One of my friends is on his 3rd season at 64inches and still hooks up 20lbs cold...
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posted September 19, 2012 04:41 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 20 Sep 2012 00:42
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Thats the right tire Lee !!!
The Power1 compound is AWESOME...I have used mine for 2 full seasons now and still hook up no problem with 34lbs cold on a stock wheelbase...
One of my friends is on his 3rd season at 64inches and still hooks up 20lbs cold...
Good to hear Rick .. Cooler air is coming my way and i'm on the hunt for that 8.30s pass !!!
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posted September 20, 2012 08:55 AM
Friend of mine runs a power1, has had it on there for 3 1/2 full seasons. It's a 64" zx10 and he runs ~20 psi.
I've never brought myself to stray from the Shinkos..
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posted September 20, 2012 11:57 AM
Power race and power one work well. We have traction issues with the 2CT even at 3 inches over. I would not use the 2CT but that's just me.
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posted September 20, 2012 01:02 PM
Lee, I've used both tires. The shinko, and the power one. They're both very good tires. But for the money. I use the shinko 200, it has the best bang for the buck. it has a quarter inch more rubber on the ground than the 190 and I think it works as good or better than the power one for 30% less price. we run them at 8 to 9 pounds. The thing is with these tires is not to over burn them in the burnout. Too much heat in the burnout changes the rubber compound and makes it harder. All it needs to do is smoke on each side and let it go. Long smoky burnout's kills the rubber compound. also I think driving the bike around a few blocks at 5 pounds of air pressure helps break the tire into a more flatter look.
Also, I feel you on the track prep. everybody's trying to save money on glue. a few weeks back we were tested, and chasing the set up around, because we had lost .08 on the 60 foot. I complained and they sprayed about 100 feet and instantly our 60 foot was back to what it should be. some of the track owners don't understand that some of the new bikes has the same horsepower to weight as a car, making 1200 hp.
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posted September 20, 2012 06:43 PM
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Lee,
I was using the Power Ones back when I used to race. As you know, I was at 69", and never had traction issues. I would do about 3-4 seconds in the middle, 3-4 seconds on each side, and then start rolling out forward for a second or two. The lifespan was incredible, considering the softness of the tire. I was running between 15-20 psi depending on track conditions.
Make sure you use the regular over the counter Power One and not the 'Race' version. I was told by Richie that the 'Race' version had a different, stiffer carcass for road racing.
Hope this helps.
-Patrick
+1 on this. I loved my power 1's. Ran 20 to 25 psi in them and got almost 2 seasons out of them...I picked up a set of race take off's from ebay for $150.
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posted September 20, 2012 07:09 PM
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Lee, I've used both tires. The shinko, and the power one. They're both very good tires. But for the money. I use the shinko 200, it has the best bang for the buck. it has a quarter inch more rubber on the ground than the 190 and I think it works as good or better than the power one for 30% less price. we run them at 8 to 9 pounds. The thing is with these tires is not to over burn them in the burnout. Too much heat in the burnout changes the rubber compound and makes it harder. All it needs to do is smoke on each side and let it go. Long smoky burnout's kills the rubber compound. also I think driving the bike around a few blocks at 5 pounds of air pressure helps break the tire into a more flatter look.
Also, I feel you on the track prep. everybody's trying to save money on glue. a few weeks back we were tested, and chasing the set up around, because we had lost .08 on the 60 foot. I complained and they sprayed about 100 feet and instantly our 60 foot was back to what it should be. some of the track owners don't understand that some of the new bikes has the same horsepower to weight as a car, making 1200 hp.
Ken
Thanks Ken , i too like the shinko and the price .. I got this power one tire for free so wanted to give it a shot .. Having never run this tire before i was unsure what PSI to run and burn out time .. I know some tires need more burn out than others and PSI Changes from brand to brand .. I just needed a base line to start with .. When i wear out these two tires i'll go back to the shinko 008 .. The 008 has worked better than any tire i have ever used and last forever .. The only problem with the 008 shinko slick is people don't want to race me because having a slick and in their mind is some how cheating ..
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