JSmooth
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posted September 03, 2012 06:01 AM
Need a 14 Forum Page
Since the introduction of the 14R we may need to start a new Forum to separate the two bikes. Jmo, some may not think so but we are talking about two different bikes.
  
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Lsantana954
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posted September 03, 2012 08:07 AM
i agree
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posted September 03, 2012 08:13 AM
I like it the way it is rather than having to jump between two forums.
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posted September 03, 2012 08:37 AM
The way it is works well and the bikes are very close with many interchangable parts.
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posted September 03, 2012 08:49 AM
 Edited By: 1badzx12r on 3 Sep 2012 16:51
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The way it is works well and the bikes are very close with many interchangable parts.
Phil
really ..what parts interchange
i vote 2 forums
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posted September 03, 2012 09:00 AM
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The way it is works well and the bikes are very close with many interchangable parts.
Phil
really ..what parts interchange
i vote 2 forums
you don't own a ZX-14 so your vote doesn't count...
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posted September 03, 2012 09:16 AM
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i vote 2 forums
you don't own a ZX-14 so your vote doesn't count...
wee
i got a zx14 in parts
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posted September 03, 2012 09:18 AM
Most all the bolt-on interchange pipe,wheels,shifter,ect, but most of the motor parts are different very few are the same like the outer clutch basket is the same as 08-11.
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posted September 03, 2012 10:14 AM
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few are the same like the outer clutch basket is the same as 08-11.
are you saying same amount of teeth on the ring gear as a 08 has .. but is the input shaft longer on the 2012 due to the slipper clutch ..
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posted September 03, 2012 01:09 PM
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The way it is works well and the bikes are very close with many interchangable parts.
Phil
really ..what parts interchange
i vote 2 forums
The engine (for the most part) is different as is most of the plastic. Most of the rest of the bike is interchangable. I have used early handle bar risers, windscreen, shortened side stand, lowering links, clutch and brake levers, etc. from early models. Next is rear sets that fit both bikes. I guess that if you don't own one, you wouldn't know and it wouldn't matter to you anyway.
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posted September 03, 2012 01:43 PM
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Most of the rest of the bike is interchangable. I have used early handle bar risers, windscreen, shortened side stand, lowering links, clutch and brake levers, etc. from early models. Next is rear sets that fit both bikes.
Phil
those are some really important parts .. don't forget bar ends
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posted September 03, 2012 01:55 PM
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Most of the rest of the bike is interchangable. I have used early handle bar risers, windscreen, shortened side stand, lowering links, clutch and brake levers, etc. from early models. Next is rear sets that fit both bikes.
Phil
those are some really important parts .. don't forget bar ends
this is why we don't need another 14 forum.
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posted September 03, 2012 01:57 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 3 Sep 2012 21:59
Does the zx14r's motor fit on zx14 frame?
Has anyone tried it?
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posted September 03, 2012 02:39 PM
The way it is works well. And since when our vote really even matter?
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posted September 03, 2012 02:56 PM
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Does the zx14r's motor fit on zx14 frame?
Has anyone tried it?
nobody will ever answer that 1 ..but they can tell you the levers interchange or what type of pump gas to use
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posted September 03, 2012 02:58 PM
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Most of the rest of the bike is interchangable. I have used early handle bar risers, windscreen, shortened side stand, lowering links, clutch and brake levers, etc. from early models. Next is rear sets that fit both bikes.
Phil
those are some really important parts .. don't forget bar ends
this is why we don't need another 14 forum.
wee
just think you and gixxerjohn and goldwingman and ninjawarrior can have y'alls own zx14RRRRRR forum ..
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posted September 03, 2012 04:54 PM
I like the Gen 1 for long road trips, it's much smoother. There is no need to down shift on the 14R to pass someone though, it has a boat load of torque. Still I don't much care for the Monoblock design. Would like it more if you could just change pistons without a major tear down.
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KoflaOlivieri
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posted September 03, 2012 05:07 PM
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Still I don't much care for the Monoblock design. Would like it more if you could just change pistons without a major tear down.
I completely agree,
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posted September 03, 2012 06:49 PM
I wasn't trying to cause any problems here it was only a suggestion. I own a zx14 and I have ridden the Zx14r by far the only comparison is probably the tires, the oil you use, the gas you put in it, the heating issues, similarity in the motor design, the brakes, and the handling. As far as bar ends, helo risers, etc ok whatever, let's look at the motor. Let's look at the throttle bodies, let's look and the slipper clutch. Sure you can stroke or bore it which ever you prefer but the bottom line is this there is reason they call it a ZX14R and a ZX14, the pistons, the stroke, etc. Or am I missing something. My suggestion was merely to clear all the ZX14r post so that when you go to the ZX14 forum your not scrolling down, next page, scroll down next page only to find what someone may have posted in relative to your ZX14. Again JMO..
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posted September 03, 2012 07:17 PM
I own a zx14 and disagree we all can't afford a 2012 14r but love to read about it just my view
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posted September 03, 2012 08:16 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 4 Sep 2012 04:18
I think it should stay like it is.
We have ZX14r owners here that have owned ZX14s, and have a great deal of knowledge about them. Therefor, we don't want to lose that to another forum.
We also have new ZX14r owners that can learn "A LOT" from guy that own ZX14s.
If you have a question about your bike, just ask, as a collective body, this forum "as is" is your best chance of getting the right answer.
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posted September 03, 2012 08:18 PM
Edited By: FalldownPhil on 4 Sep 2012 04:21
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I own a zx14 and disagree we all can't afford a 2012 14r but love to read about it just my view
Colt, I agree with you entirely from the opposite direction. I have not owned a 14, just the 14R. I sill have learned a great deal from the ZX14 guys and am very grateful for their shared knowledge.
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JSmooth
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posted September 04, 2012 04:37 PM
It was merely a suggestion and I see everyone's point yeah it makes since ok disregard my suggestion.
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posted September 05, 2012 05:09 PM
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few are the same like the outer clutch basket is the same as 08-11.
are you saying same amount of teeth on the ring gear as a 08 has .. but is the input shaft longer on the 2012 due to the slipper clutch ..
Yes I have had my 08 hays basket in my 2012 but the input shaft is too long
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posted September 05, 2012 09:57 PM
I think there should be a seperate '14R' section.
Especially with the rocket launchers and after market pipes - ECU fixes that have taken up a lot of posts for only the 14R.
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