TH1RT3EN

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posted June 21, 2012 11:11 AM
i believe it will fit, you would just have to extend your wires across the forks instead of 2 or 3 inches with a normal install.
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toledoUPSguy
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posted June 21, 2012 11:23 AM
Oops, I forgot the kill switch has to plug in.
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TNID200
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posted June 29, 2012 01:44 PM
Thought I'd share a pic... I just installed a GPR V4 Sport stabilizer on my ZX-14R.
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Romans

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posted June 29, 2012 06:59 PM
Clean Look, congrats
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Bueller

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posted June 29, 2012 10:09 PM
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quote: had something happen today that never has.. Went to store and mile down the road took hands off bars at 55 to zip a zipper and it went into a baaad headshake. guess will be checkin the zippers better before i leave from now on lol.
Does this feel like something that would repeat ?
i dont know. It does it at least once every other trip to the track. And last week made first pass on the turbo 14 and once it hit 2nd it shook all the way down the track till I backed out of it keeping it from shifting to 3rd. Starting to rattle me a little since it only does it to me, but I spend the most time with the wheel just off the ground. gonna take a hard look at the 2 this week and check the wheel fall and all the bearings, but dont thinks they like my lil azz on them lmao.
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Romans

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posted June 30, 2012 06:38 AM
And last week made first pass on the turbo 14 and once it hit 2nd it shook all the way down the track till I backed out of it keeping it from shifting to 3rd. Starting to rattle me a little since it only does it to me, but I spend the most time with the wheel just off the ground.
Turbo 14,,,, 2012 14 R ????
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Superman T

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posted June 30, 2012 07:20 AM
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quote: had something happen today that never has.. Went to store and mile down the road took hands off bars at 55 to zip a zipper and it went into a baaad headshake. guess will be checkin the zippers better before i leave from now on lol.
Does this feel like something that would repeat ?
Romans- You would have to have experience riding the ZX14 really hard and pop a FEW wheelies to experience a wheel shake. I've had my 14 since 06(brand new) and I have had only 2 head shakes in 6 years. They both were a consequence of a wheelie! But I've wheelied a few times(I won't say the #) and this "head shake" is not the norm.... But if you ever save one, two or more, you'll know what we are talking about. Keep riding, if you go strong, soon enough you'll be experienced as others. Ride safe though and I would add to ride within you means
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Romans

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posted June 30, 2012 08:27 AM
quote:
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quote: had something happen today that never has.. Went to store and mile down the road took hands off bars at 55 to zip a zipper and it went into a baaad headshake. guess will be checkin the zippers better before i leave from now on lol.
Does this feel like something that would repeat ?
Romans- You would have to have experience riding the ZX14 really hard and pop a FEW wheelies you'll be experienced as others. Ride safe though and I would add to ride within you means
2010 and 2007 Zero shakes and I beat the piss out of my bikes. Even the 65 inch Turbo bike has come down with front wheel skewed more than once,,, Zero issues. Damper was and is insurance.
The quote above made the New bike sound twitch-E Reading more than riding can sometimes mess you up. More Seat time is required 4 me is all.
I have little Experience with the New 2012 as I spend most of my time on Turbo Bike. The new bike just passed 300 kilometers. But to date zero shakes from wheelies so I don't really have a opinion that means anything just hoping it's a none issue ..Cheers
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TNID200
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posted June 30, 2012 08:29 AM
quote: Clean Look, congrats
Thanks! I'll feel better about taking her out on the racetrack with this thing installed.
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Bueller

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posted June 30, 2012 09:18 AM
Edited By: Bueller on 30 Jun 2012 17:19
yea man, dont get to nerved by what my issue is. you have to figure im a light weight, and make TONS of passes. Even at 70"+ Im in the air seems like more than on the ground. Also these bikes are still getting the setup straight on them. At 150lb leaving at 7k+ on a handclutch, so sometimes you just have things happen. My goal to stay in the 1.20s 60' on hand pushes me kinda hard on it. The one instance where it shook on the highway is what took me back. so ya gonna do some good inspecting on it to see whats going on. maybe wheelfall is just lil off. (though I am shopping a stablilizer now, to help with centering) maybe strap pulling to hard one way, or weight of a rotor gone from one side. but something seems different causing some issues on the motor bike.
But just ride, be safe and have fun. Just happens that even owning bikes for 30+ years, they can suprise ya sometimes, so just be aware of lil signs they show you something may be up.
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toledoUPSguy
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posted June 30, 2012 07:14 PM
quote: Guessing the change in Geometry... Lowered the rear 1.5", and the front .75". Since that it feels liek it wants to turn faster, besides that it is stable as hell... Like my 07
KTM/ Husabergs are very sensitive to rear ride height settings and their affect on steering. Droping the rear more than the front should actually slow the steering down. Not at all saying a damper would be great insurance though.
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toledoUPSguy
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posted July 22, 2012 04:50 PM
quote: Not the Brock's/Ohlins but very happy with it.

Romans, is this the complete hyperpro setup or the old muzzy setup using the hyperpro damper? Any rubbing issues? Had heard that muzzy quit using this damper since they had rubbing issues with their mounts.
this set up would offer some color, easy use of a lowering strap and the PMR products.
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blue07
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posted July 22, 2012 07:31 PM
Edited By: blue07 on 23 Jul 2012 03:37
Hmmmm....okay....I want to know....WHAT kind of riding are some of you doing...speeds....cornering...surfaces....where you're getting a headshake that feels like it 'may' enter a tankslapper?I've had some teensy wiggles from the front end when lofting a few times....trying to 'help' the front lift...which I don't need to do actually.And a few teensy wiggles with it coming down...also some 'wiggles' when accelerating hard and the front was getting light.But that was from me trying to hold on...and I shouldn't be...not that way.I should be holding on with my knees.I forget sometimes.But I have to say...in all the turns I've made at triple digits...on some seriously rough road(s)(at times)...and also slippery shit in the srface,I've never even once had the frontend feel as if it was gonna do the floppy fish on me.She's wiggled a few times leaned in and on the gas....but nothing even resembling something to be worried about.Am I missing somehing here?Thos guys in the TT...check out their front ends when they're powering out and such...they wiggle....a little.That's all mine has ever done.The only tankslapper I ever had...was on my zx12...coming out of a curve and speeding up to pass a semi in front of me.Cold road...early morning.80+speeds and boom.....hit so fast it was over before I could shit my pants...but had it gone one more slap....I'd have been tractor trash for sure.I still haven't actually been able to figure out HOW it happened..there WAS no warning.I don't think a damper would have stopped this thing....it slammed back and forth like three times all the way right to left hitting the steering stops.Then...it was over.There was no time to 'let off the gas'...a or anything else.My hands were just at the limit of coming off both grips.....that's what scared me so much.I hope that NEVER happens to anyone here.....I had to pull off,then the rest of the ride was like'WTF?"....geez.What a wake up call that was!As far as I can tell...the front must have either lost contact and slipped out of track with the back...OR..the back broke loose and I didn't feel it until....BOOM.No warning...no wiggle...straight tracking....BOOM
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posted July 22, 2012 07:38 PM
quote: had something happen today that never has.. Went to store and mile down the road took hands off bars at 55 to zip a zipper and it went into a baaad headshake. guess will be checkin the zippers better before i leave from now on lol.
Me too, it only happens around 55mph with my hands off the bars. Below 40 or above 65 no problem.
why?
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blue07
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posted July 22, 2012 09:28 PM
Edited By: blue07 on 23 Jul 2012 05:29
my 07 did something similar to that...not BAD...but noticeable.It was the front tire...wear.almost unnoticeable...but it was there.There may be something to what they say when installing new tires...no hard braking and such for 100 miles?I think most guys assume that's so ya won't slip on the new skins...I personally think it's more than that.
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ILUVNOS

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posted July 22, 2012 10:08 PM
take some measurements on your front forks. i had a similar issue a while back, come to find out when it was lowered (previous owner) they didn't have them lowered equally. that cause a ridiculous head shake....almost threw me off the bike. grabbed the calipers after tryin everything else and took some measurements. sure enough i got them to equal height and i can let loose of the bars at high speed with no shake what so ever.
hopefully this helps.
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blue07
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posted July 22, 2012 11:08 PM
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blue07
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posted July 25, 2012 01:46 PM
About that damper...being 'necessary' for the 14...or 14R....you don't suppose it's MORE necessary for the lighter 10 than the 14 do you?I can imagine that 10 gets pretty squirrely at times.?????
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Rook

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posted July 25, 2012 02:03 PM
I have never had a single scary headshake with the 14. Most I ever got was a single quick snap back to alignment if the front got crossed coming down from a wheelie or hitting a small bump in a corner.
Still this a bitchin piece and as mentioned when you need it, THEN you need it.
The HyperPro Active damper self adjusts according to steering input. You will never feel it restrict your movement during normal, smooth steering inputs but when/if a quick zing in the steering happens such as a headshake, the hyperPro tightens up.


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blue07
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posted July 25, 2012 02:08 PM
Gotcha...yeah...I can see where it would be some insurance...I've railed pretty hard sometimes on not the best surfaces,cornering,and had a twitch or two...but nothing even approaching an out of control frontend.I don't think my "light hand' on my bars would be enough to stop a full-on tankslapper...it happens so fast....But ya got to remember...that front wheel rotating like it is....throwing that out of track and trying to 'turn' the bars...virtually impossible...I've tried.Going straight,and trying to force the bars to either side.It doesn't work.At least I couldn't get em to go off center.But an out of alignment front to rear...ya..that could easily happen under the right circumstances.
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samin

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posted July 25, 2012 02:21 PM
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quote: had something happen today that never has.. Went to store and mile down the road took hands off bars at 55 to zip a zipper and it went into a baaad headshake. guess will be checkin the zippers better before i leave from now on lol.
Me too, it only happens around 55mph with my hands off the bars. Below 40 or above 65 no problem.
why?
With worn front tyre, my Ninja 500R did that. My ZX11 did that every time at 50, and my ZX14 does that as well.
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vernesoni23

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posted February 14, 2013 05:58 PM
Any clearance issues with the GPR? As far as strapping the bike is concerned?
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Seno

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posted February 14, 2013 08:20 PM
Brock's unit is great, best damper I have ever used.
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Shane661

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posted February 15, 2013 05:23 AM
I also went with the Brock/Ohlins setup:
quote: One more item installed, a steering damper. I like having a damper on the street, but especially at the track. I hate landing small wheelies and getting a slapper, especially at swb. This solves that problem.
I decided to go with Brock's Ohlins setup. Basically I wanted something simple to install, high quality, and plenty of clearance for a front strap.




Installation took about 10 minutes. All of the parts are of high quality, and fit well. I used to have a Muzzy's setup on my Gen 1; it used all kinds of brackets and clamps/etc , and it came close to the forks/bars, even rubbing them a few times. This setup is much more simple, and the damper is not as wide, which gives better clearance.
A good steering damper is a wise investment.
Shane
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vernesoni23

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posted February 15, 2013 08:28 AM
Shane/Seno what feather kill switch did you go with? I was wondering how to mount the kill switch if I went with the Brock's set up?
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