Bishopzx12
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posted June 11, 2012 06:25 AM
Steering Damper
I have been searching the forum and I don’t think the new zx14r comes with one form the factory. My question is a steering damper a good investment and if so which one should I look into. I have a true street bike that will see a lot of track action. I plan on lowering at the front forks about 1.00-1.25” here in the next week or so once I get my new swing arm in. If this is a good investment which do you recommend
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zx13r
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posted June 11, 2012 06:38 AM
I like the GPR.
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GixxerJohn
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posted June 11, 2012 06:59 AM
Yeah i second this,does the 14 really need a dampner. Seems like one of the most stable bikes i've ridin. If they wern't so much money i wouldn't mind,but def. lookin forward to some answers also. And to the op,i have also heard gpr is really good,but they also need to be rebuilt every now and then in which that seems like a pain in the ass,to remove and send in.
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Shane661
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posted June 11, 2012 07:12 AM
A damper is a good investment. As has been said, "you don't need one until you need it...and then you REALLY need it!".
The only damper I know of that fits the 14R is the Brock's/Ohlins. There are some changes to the steering head on the 14R which can make fitting an older model impossible. Maybe some other folks have had luck fitting their stuff from the Gen 1??
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posted June 11, 2012 07:14 AM
Ohlins
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Bishopzx12
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posted June 11, 2012 07:23 AM
Good info.. what about the scotts brand
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zixxer14
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posted June 11, 2012 07:59 AM
Dubious has a killer deal on a gpr in the classifieds. He's a stand up guy with tons of knowledge. Contact him.....http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=3&TID=67898&set_time=1339301267
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TH1RT3EN
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posted June 11, 2012 09:55 AM
If your installing on the 2012 only gpr that will fit is the V4 model. It uses the steering stem mount where the brock/ohlins damper uses the brake lever mount. If you chose to go with a pmr tether kill or many other items available you wont be able to use it with the brocks dampner.
I picked up a used V4 damper on ebay and purchased the mount from GPR directly. Saved me a few bucks and it works great!
If the one dubious has is a V4 i would say go for it. If your mounting it on an 06-11 model 14 then you can use any of the GPR products. The main difference in the versions is the body size and thickness. They all have great reviews.
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Bishopzx12
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posted June 11, 2012 10:47 AM
Good information guys. I will look into one of these i have hear these are a great bonus for racing sepceially when the front wheel is off the groundit can keep you on the strait and narrow down the track
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posted June 11, 2012 01:33 PM
Brocks went on pretty easy I was told, I didn't do the actual install. Worked fine for me at the gusty headwind/crosswind infested Ohio Mile June 2012.
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Romans
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posted June 11, 2012 02:03 PM
Not the Brock's/Ohlins but very happy with it.
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justoyz2
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posted June 11, 2012 05:18 PM
I can't tell you if you need one or not, but i have the Brock/Ohlin.... This is the first 14 that I have installed one on.... didn't need it on any of the others.
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posted June 11, 2012 05:29 PM
We're going to get one for the Monster 14. Dave swears it has head shake bad when he comes down from a wheelie during a pass. Can't have that.
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TH1RT3EN
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posted June 11, 2012 06:34 PM
Nice Romans! I Like that set up as well. You still have plenty of options with that type of set up.
Looks Good!
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Bueller
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posted June 11, 2012 07:07 PM
had something happen today that never has.. Went to store and mile down the road took hands off bars at 55 to zip a zipper and it went into a baaad headshake. guess will be checkin the zippers better before i leave from now on lol.
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zixxer14
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posted June 11, 2012 09:00 PM
Might want to check head & wheel bearings & front tire too.
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zxninja
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posted June 11, 2012 09:13 PM
nice to have one
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zxninja
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posted June 11, 2012 09:15 PM
should have had one from the factory
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posted June 12, 2012 05:29 AM
+1, Ohlins / Brock's.... Very simple install, works well! When I lowered my bike in the front it became a bit "twitchy", a few clicks on the damper & the front end got happy again.
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Romans
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posted June 12, 2012 09:54 AM
 Edited By: Romans on 12 Jun 2012 17:55
I must admit I am a little surprised. I always thought the damper to be good insurance on our bikes as with my gen 1s I had ZERO issues. Sounds like with Gen 2 this insurance will be Money well spent.
Any thoughts to why ? Tires, geometry change maybe ??????
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posted June 12, 2012 10:04 AM
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I must admit I am a little surprised. I always thought the damper to be good insurance on our bikes as with my gen 1s I had ZERO issues. Sounds like with Gen 2 this insurance will be Money well spent.
Any thoughts to why ? Tires, geometry change maybe ??????
I see no difference between older bikes and the new 14rs. They all need one if you ride hard enough and have that one time where you sit the front wheel down a little sideways or on some un even pavement.
I almost crashed one night at the track on my 06 from headshake, I sat the front wheel down just a little wrong and all hell broke loose.
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Romans
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posted June 12, 2012 10:42 AM
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had something happen today that never has.. Went to store and mile down the road took hands off bars at 55 to zip a zipper and it went into a baaad headshake. guess will be checkin the zippers better before i leave from now on lol.
Does this feel like something that would repeat ?
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posted June 12, 2012 01:58 PM
Guessing the change in Geometry... Lowered the rear 1.5", and the front .75". Since that it feels liek it wants to turn faster, besides that it is stable as hell... Like my 07
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posted June 12, 2012 10:09 PM
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Not the Brock's/Ohlins but very happy with it.
I have my gauges and speedohealer V4 in the exact same place Romans. I just don't have my afr gauge mounted up yet lol.
I have the stock damper on my busa, makes it super stable but slows down the steering a little and makes it a little higher effort. I like my 14 with no damper, almost as stable as the busa but turns MUCH easier and quicker.
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toledoUPSguy
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posted June 21, 2012 10:57 AM
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If your installing on the 2012 only gpr that will fit is the V4 model. It uses the steering stem mount where the brock/ohlins damper uses the brake lever mount. If you chose to go with a pmr tether kill or many other items available you wont be able to use it with the brocks dampner.
Patrick
can the PMR tether kill be put on the clutch side clamp?
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