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Goldwingmann


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posted May 03, 2012 07:28 AM        
Brock Map Support Database Updating in Progress...today!

Just spoke with Brock Davidson.

He and staff members are on the ZX14r dyno this morning, doing upgrading of the current mapping database for this bike. A few unique changes are being developed.

New maps will be sent to all Registered Members....so standby for even MORE performance!

You are gonna love this one.......!

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CajunBoyz


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posted May 03, 2012 08:03 AM        Edited By: CajunBoyz on 3 May 2012 16:07
Great

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CajunBoyz


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posted May 03, 2012 08:08 AM        
Hope its new found HP for the Street Map
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Rob7R


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posted May 03, 2012 08:09 AM        
I wonder if Brock tested the AH2 on a Gen 1 14 yet.
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Goldwingmann


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posted May 03, 2012 08:14 AM        
It is going to remove the slow speed bucking as you approach traffic lights and slow downs, and make it feel more like stock. You won't have to clutch as early as you do currently and can remain in gear longer before clutching and applying brakes...much smoother....ask me how I know!
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Brock


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posted May 03, 2012 10:15 AM        
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I wonder if Brock tested the AH2 on a Gen 1 14 yet.


Yes we did, it made more power than any other pipe... It just doesn't fit well. The muffler mounting bracket is off by about .75 You can FORCE it on, but it's very tight.

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Brock


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posted May 03, 2012 10:17 AM        
quote:
It is going to remove the slow speed bucking as you approach traffic lights and slow downs, and make it feel more like stock. You won't have to clutch as early as you do currently and can remain in gear longer before clutching and applying brakes...much smoother....ask me how I know!


Out of curiosity, how many other members here noticed the stumble/buck etc. when using our street map?

Brock

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CraZX14


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posted May 03, 2012 10:59 AM        
quote:
quote:
It is going to remove the slow speed bucking as you approach traffic lights and slow downs, and make it feel more like stock. You won't have to clutch as early as you do currently and can remain in gear longer before clutching and applying brakes...much smoother....ask me how I know!


Out of curiosity, how many other members here noticed the stumble/buck etc. when using our street map?

Brock


Had my 1st ride w/ CT Meg / street map yesterday and at low speeds, I'm pulling the clutch sooner before stopping - bike seems to just wanna keep moving forward....I know, usually that is the goal
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Kawifast


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posted May 03, 2012 11:13 AM        
So being one who has the pipe on order but already owns a PC5 w/Brocks Street Map on it while I wait for the pipes, is the official reccomendation to download the new map Brock?
Sounds like you're asking to be sure it's needed on a universal basis.
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Rob7R


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posted May 03, 2012 11:14 AM        
Thanks for the info Brock... Do you guys still offer the original AH in the ceramic black? I've been really considering upgrading to one of those sometime this year. Of course the CT single isn't that much more expensive. Tough choice.
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posted May 03, 2012 11:31 AM        
quote:
quote:
It is going to remove the slow speed bucking as you approach traffic lights and slow downs, and make it feel more like stock. You won't have to clutch as early as you do currently and can remain in gear longer before clutching and applying brakes...much smoother....ask me how I know!


Out of curiosity, how many other members here noticed the stumble/buck etc. when using our street map?
Brock
Brock, your street map does just fine on my 14r

wee

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cls


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posted May 03, 2012 11:41 AM        
Mine has a bit of a stumble at low rpm's but no bucking or big problems.
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eklipse636


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posted May 03, 2012 12:04 PM        
quote:
quote:
It is going to remove the slow speed bucking as you approach traffic lights and slow downs, and make it feel more like stock. You won't have to clutch as early as you do currently and can remain in gear longer before clutching and applying brakes...much smoother....ask me how I know!


Out of curiosity, how many other members here noticed the stumble/buck etc. when using our street map?

Brock

Sometimes you have to consider the source on some things said.
The bucking could be from chain slack for all we know coming from him.
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CraZX14


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posted May 03, 2012 12:22 PM        
Learned that mine was not idling properly initially after everything was installed and idle was adjusted - so my issue might be just that the idle needs to be set back a hair...
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WARBIRD


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posted May 03, 2012 12:23 PM        
quote:
quote:
quote:
It is going to remove the slow speed bucking as you approach traffic lights and slow downs, and make it feel more like stock. You won't have to clutch as early as you do currently and can remain in gear longer before clutching and applying brakes...much smoother....ask me how I know!


Out of curiosity, how many other members here noticed the stumble/buck etc. when using our street map?

Brock

Sometimes you have to consider the source on some things said.
The bucking could be from chain slack for all we know coming from him.


Or from simply going to slow with the clutch still engaged, forcing it below idle speed......
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Brock


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posted May 03, 2012 12:38 PM        
Guys, no hack session requested. I'm just gathering data. I have a couple of very happy test riders right now using the new map and I've questioned several others who have no idea what I'm talking about when I ask them about any type of drivability issues with our current street map.

I can duplicate the 'stumble' I was alerted to from another board... but I have to ride in 3rd gear at 1750 RPM to do it. I created another map to 'trick' MOST of the stumble away. But IMO it's mostly a rowdy 200+ factory stroker motor 'lumping' on the cam.

I don't have access to a stone stocker, so if anyone wants to go look for this situation using the above criteria - feel free and let me know if it is there also. I remember the 14R wasn't the smoothest bike I had ever ridden at slow speeds in Vegas, but without a side by side... it's difficult.

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Lucky14


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posted May 03, 2012 12:45 PM        
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Brock, your street map does just fine on my 14r

wee


Ditto.


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smokinZX14


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posted May 03, 2012 12:56 PM        
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Brock, your street map does just fine on my 14r

wee


Ditto.


Ditto 3
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WARBIRD


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posted May 03, 2012 02:02 PM        
No hacking from this guy.....just something I have seen people do, force it below idle without dissengaging the clutch, and buckbuckbuck........especially if the idle is set too high.
Just an observation..........
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VINCE12


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posted May 03, 2012 03:36 PM        
No stumble with the street map,,,, thanks.
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eklipse636


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posted May 03, 2012 04:40 PM        
This kid just gives the worst advice I've ever seen. From screwing your tire to your rim on a street bike to a fender extension to keep water off the radiator... And the list goes on and on, and on.
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Goldwingmann


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posted May 03, 2012 04:45 PM        
Am glad you are reading........must not have much of anything else to do...man has to know his limitations....
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shawnski


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posted May 03, 2012 04:49 PM        Edited By: shawnski on 4 May 2012 00:50
the only time i have had problem with mine was when i put it in the first gear without holding the clutch .. it dies on me all the time... is this because i don't have a good map??
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Goldwingmann


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posted May 03, 2012 04:55 PM        
You must be forgetful Maybe you should take time to read the owners manual, or tape the instructions to the fuel tank so you know how to do it properly.

Just follow simple procedure, it is in the book.....

Let me know if you have any more problems and will have my sister give you some hands on training...

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eklipse636


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posted May 03, 2012 05:29 PM        
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You must be forgetful Maybe you should take time to read the owners manual, or tape the instructions to the fuel tank so you know how to do it properly.

Just follow simple procedure, it is in the book.....

Let me know if you have any more problems and will have my sister give you some hands on training...


Kid, your wearing out your welcome here, FAST.
Keep spending your moms money and let us spend money we work for.
You won't be around long, and you will never get decent advice from anyone here.

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