GixxerJohn
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posted April 15, 2012 12:31 PM
 Edited By: GixxerJohn on 15 Apr 2012 20:34
WOW 14 not the same in warmer weather
Went on a 83 mile ride and just got back,today is the first day i rode the bike in temps. above 55-60,today it was in the 80's. Well usally when i get on the bike in 2nd or 3rd gear around 9000 or so full throttle the bike starts to get really crazy and shakin hits head it makes me laugh in my helmet it amazing i usally go holyshit,but today it just pulled nice and smooth[dare i say boring] and i couldnt belive i was red lining it and nothing really happens it feels like its down 10 horsepower up top. Now i know what u dragracers mean when u complain about heat and humity,it kind of sucks.I love the bike its that i was riding in perfect weather,now that its getting warmer it doesnt feel that crazy as it used to compared to my older 14 and 1000's.
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shawnski
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posted April 15, 2012 12:37 PM
Edited By: shawnski on 15 Apr 2012 20:38
is the type of gas you are using.. use 87 octane with a few drops of crisco oil..
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posted April 15, 2012 12:44 PM
time for the blue bottle with n2o markings on it ..
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posted April 15, 2012 12:56 PM
oil in air-box?
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GixxerJohn
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posted April 15, 2012 01:01 PM
hahahahahaha yeah most have went down to 68 octane.no nitrous for me,i like to just cruise 80% of the time,just shocked it felt a lil down on power,was able to pin throttle all the way to the hilt with no problem.
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Kawifast
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posted April 15, 2012 01:05 PM
No way you should feel any kind of power loss like that. You say you've had other zx 14's and litre bikes, so you would know that this isn't normal.
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smokinZX14
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posted April 15, 2012 02:22 PM
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Went on a 83 mile ride and just got back,today is the first day i rode the bike in temps. above 55-60,today it was in the 80's. Well usally when i get on the bike in 2nd or 3rd gear around 9000 or so full throttle the bike starts to get really crazy and shakin hits head it makes me laugh in my helmet it amazing i usally go holyshit,but today it just pulled nice and smooth[dare i say boring] and i couldnt belive i was red lining it and nothing really happens it feels like its down 10 horsepower up top. Now i know what u dragracers mean when u complain about heat and humity,it kind of sucks.I love the bike its that i was riding in perfect weather,now that its getting warmer it doesnt feel that crazy as it used to compared to my older 14 and 1000's.
Well i guess you got a lemon .. I'll tell you what , i'll give you 3500 cash and sell it to my buddy Teddy for 3500 .. Teddy blew up his ZRX and needs a new bike and i don't think he will mind if it's down 10 hp in the heat ..
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GixxerJohn
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posted April 15, 2012 02:34 PM
haha no thanks smokin,but am i crazy the heat seems to take away some of the bite. Its always been like that with all my bikes,here in jersey in the winter you would get an ok day in the 40's or 50's and you would take out your bike and it would pull like a beast,i guess i was always riding my 14r in the cold and the first real warm day i wasn't used to it zaping some power thats all.
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Kawifast
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posted April 15, 2012 02:45 PM
"haha no thanks smokin,but am i crazy"
80 degree weather and noticeable loss of power?? I think maybe you're a little crazy.
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Shane661
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posted April 15, 2012 02:53 PM
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hahahahahaha yeah most have went down to 68 octane.no nitrous for me,i like to just cruise 80% of the time,just shocked it felt a lil down on power,was able to pin throttle all the way to the hilt with no problem.
Cool. Show us that vid of you pinning the throttle in 1st gear....
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zx12mark
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posted April 15, 2012 03:16 PM
those be the facts.the warmer it gets out side the less h/p it makes and the softer it feels.just like suspensions get mushy the warmer it gets........no big deal just ride ....
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1badzx12r
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posted April 15, 2012 03:16 PM
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,here in jersey in the winter you would get an ok day in the 40's or 50's and you would take out your bike and it would pull like a beast.
ATCO thats where all the fastest times are set .. with them -3000 ft days ....so i say your right .. when you get a 1000ft day it suxs .. but try texas average around 3500ft with 100% humidity and 100+ degrees ..
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GixxerJohn
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posted April 15, 2012 05:01 PM
Edited By: GixxerJohn on 16 Apr 2012 01:02
not first gear shane im not that crazy,but zx12mark your right on point,i mean every bike i've ever owned did this a lil,i guess this is the first bike i rode in cold weather for awhile and then it got warm out. Hell brocks lasteset video on the 14 he said once it gets warm and hazy in a couple of weeks in ohio his slugger 14 will be down about 10hp on his dyno so i guess brocks crazy too!!!!
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Bigbore4
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posted April 15, 2012 05:34 PM
When I read stuff like this, all I can do is wonder why they don't charge money to belong to this forum?
Entertainment is always worth ssomething 
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joseph702
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posted April 15, 2012 05:49 PM
on the dyno my super sport on back to back runs in 90 hott summer day was withen 3hp .
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smokinstorm
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posted April 15, 2012 06:49 PM
Edited By: smokinstorm on 16 Apr 2012 02:50
I would say that going from 55-60 degrees to 80+ degrees will make enough of a difference in performance that you could measure at the dragstrip. If you could feel it for sure with the butt dyno then you've got a sensitive butt. There's a reason that world record drag times are almost never set in July and August. From best to worst air here in eastern NC there's about .2 and 2-3 MPH difference in performance at the track when the DA goes from -1000 in the early Spring and late Fall to +2500 in July, Auguest and into September. That much of a difference can be picked up by even the not so sensitive butt dyno's.
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eklipse636
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posted April 15, 2012 06:49 PM
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When I read stuff like this, all I can do is wonder why they don't charge money to belong to this forum?
Entertainment is always worth ssomething
Yep! The 14R is the only motor of any kind that's affected by heat/himidity. He knows it all, but no way would he do wot in first gear... What a TOOL.
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Bigbore4
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posted April 15, 2012 09:33 PM
My guess would be that the clown doesn't even have a bike, much less a 14
He might have a busa though
This guy cruises around at 8900 rpm in 2nd or 3rd and then he decides to "get on it"
That's funny, really funny.
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posted April 15, 2012 09:46 PM
Edited By: blue07 on 16 Apr 2012 05:48
May I say...I 'pinned' mine in 1st gear...Pinned,as in...as long as a pinhead.She shot for the sky...I love this thing.!!!!! 
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eklipse636
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posted April 16, 2012 03:20 AM
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I would say that going from 55-60 degrees to 80+ degrees will make enough of a difference in performance that you could measure at the dragstrip. If you could feel it for sure with the butt dyno then you've got a sensitive butt. There's a reason that world record drag times are almost never set in July and August. From best to worst air here in eastern NC there's about .2 and 2-3 MPH difference in performance at the track when the DA goes from -1000 in the early Spring and late Fall to +2500 in July, Auguest and into September. That much of a difference can be picked up by even the not so sensitive butt dyno's.
Agreed. When the DA is good, my bike wheelies perfect and will sit the tire down in 2nd, when it's hot the tire only "skips" off the ground, and it has more of a tendency to bog.
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GixxerJohn
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posted April 16, 2012 03:46 AM
Whats the problem guys i bring up my bike doesnt feel as strong and this is the shit i get,ma ybe something is wrong
gwith it i dont know, but to act like this and to call me a tool. I wish i could meet u guys in person. You wouldnt say that shit then i promise u guys.
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1badzx12r
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posted April 16, 2012 04:06 AM
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You wouldnt say that shit then i promise u guys.
y'all went and done it now
he gonna kick everybodies ass
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Kawifast
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posted April 16, 2012 06:38 AM
I'll try to take this post seriously and say if you "really believe" that you are losing 10 HP and can literally feel a SIGNIFICANT decrease in power just from a change in the weather from 60-80 degrees there is likely something wrong with your bike. If you installed your own Brocks full system, (or even if you didn't), I would check for an exhaust leak or anything that would upset your AFR and ultimately whatever Map you are using.
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1badzx12r
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posted April 16, 2012 06:41 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 16 Apr 2012 14:42
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I would check for an exhaust leak or anything that would upset your AFR and ultimately whatever Map you are using.
CAN you please explain how an exhaust leak will upset an AFR
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smokinstorm
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posted April 16, 2012 06:57 AM
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Whats the problem guys i bring up my bike doesnt feel as strong and this is the shit i get,ma ybe something is wrong
gwith it i dont know, but to act like this and to call me a tool. I wish i could meet u guys in person. You wouldnt say that shit then i promise u guys.
I just tried to offer you an explanation as to why it feels not so strong. The temp difference you mentioned at first will usually not make a performance difference you can feel unless the barometric pressure also bottomed out sending the DA skyward hence my reply that if you can feel that difference, you've got a sensitive butt dyno. And as far as telling that to you to your face, I'll gladly do it. No problem whatsoever. I'm two of most people on here and three of some.
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