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posted April 06, 2012 05:08 AM
 Edited By: 1badzx12r on 6 Apr 2012 13:09
how come nobody reported this
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/templates/fast1320_z9.aspx?articleid=7270&zoneid=9
Ladwig took to the Texas Mile spring event in Beeville, Texas, on March 25th and brought a stock 2012 Kawasaki ZX-14R to a top speed of 195.7 mph.
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posted April 06, 2012 05:22 AM
Hot damn.only thing was guhls flash... Holy sheet batman.its a bird, its a plane, its a stock 14 ninja
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posted April 06, 2012 05:46 AM
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Hot damn.only thing was guhls flash... Holy sheet batman.its a bird, its a plane, its a stock 14R ninja
correction
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posted April 06, 2012 05:53 AM
He must not have changed the gearing or over inflated tbe tire, only 195 mph?? Had to be on the limiter with that much power. Piped ZX12's went 200 from what I heard.
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posted April 06, 2012 05:58 AM
http://www.texasmile.net/mileresults.php?event=8
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posted April 06, 2012 06:06 AM
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He must not have changed the gearing or over inflated tbe tire, only 195 mph?? Had to be on the limiter with that much power. Piped ZX12's went 200 from what I heard.
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The class has strict rules noted Ladwig. “The bike was completely stock,” he said. “The only thing we did was remove the mirrors and the ECU was de-restricted by Guhls.”
[qoute]**Read the following classification definitions to make sure you qualify for the class you chose.
Factory Stock: Classification retains all a factory produced drive-train, electronics, chassis, exhaust, induction and layout. Modifications are allowed to meet the set safety requirements outlined in the technical rules and regulations. Cosmetic changes to the paint, ancillaries, and changes of tire make are allowed. Tires must retain a DOT rating. Performance enhancing modifications are not allowed to the drive-train, electronics, chassis, exhaust, induction and layout.
"to me" performance modifications to the electronics is breaking the rules .. but hey what do i know
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posted April 06, 2012 06:07 AM
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He must not have changed the gearing or over inflated tbe tire, only 195 mph?? Had to be on the limiter with that much power. Piped ZX12's went 200 from what I heard.
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The class has strict rules noted Ladwig. “The bike was completely stock,” he said. “The only thing we did was remove the mirrors and the ECU was de-restricted by Guhls.”
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**Read the following classification definitions to make sure you qualify for the class you chose.
Factory Stock: Classification retains all a factory produced drive-train, electronics, chassis, exhaust, induction and layout. Modifications are allowed to meet the set safety requirements outlined in the technical rules and regulations. Cosmetic changes to the paint, ancillaries, and changes of tire make are allowed. Tires must retain a DOT rating. Performance enhancing modifications are not allowed to the drive-train, electronics, chassis, exhaust, induction and layout.
"to me" performance modifications to the electronics is breaking the rules .. but hey what do i know
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venomous_zx
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posted April 06, 2012 06:12 AM
Removed restrictions..... My mistake. if thats different from guhls flash. I dont know if you have to flash in order to remove restrictions. Back to the topic.. I wanna try lsr now! Thats very impressive for stock. I wonder how it feels to go that fast on this bike? Is it still smooth? Thats what id like to know
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posted April 06, 2012 06:22 AM
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Removed restrictions..... My mistake. if thats different from guhls flash. I dont know if you have to flash in order to remove restrictions. Back to the topic.. I wanna try lsr now! Thats very impressive for stock. I wonder how it feels to go that fast on this bike? Is it still smooth? Thats what id like to know
this is apple to oranges .. but back in 08 i saw a total stock zx14 and a total stock 08 busa run same day same time and they ran like 184mph for like 3 passes if i remember correctly... thats what i saw ..i heard later they did 189mph zx14 and 190mph busa.. i also remember a stock R1 running 175mph like 20+ times.. i can't remember if it was the same day .. so yeah that would he huge .. if all this was done on the same day and conditions
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venomous_zx
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posted April 06, 2012 06:22 AM
Im assuming they let him run knowing restrictions were removed.... Maybe it wad a loop hole.
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mathews
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posted April 06, 2012 06:53 AM
Thats the problem with class racing..How far do you go on tech?Do you really think they tear the motors down?How does the average tech guy check an ECU?
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posted April 06, 2012 07:28 AM
They allow speed limiters to be removed. Otherwise watching all of the bikes go 186 would get pretty boring.
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posted April 06, 2012 07:33 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 6 Apr 2012 15:33
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They allow speed limiters to be removed. Otherwise watching all of the bikes go 186 would get pretty boring.
not all the bikes .. just the" stock" class.. i assume its the honor system when it comes to teching a ECU
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posted April 06, 2012 07:36 AM
In all other popular venues the bike only need appear stock...internal engine mods are allowed as long as they fit within the class displacement.
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posted April 06, 2012 07:39 AM
In stock class they allow removal of the speed limiter...otherwise what is the point?
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posted April 06, 2012 07:57 AM
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In stock class they allow removal of the speed limiter...otherwise what is the point?
How they know thats all they removed when REFLASHING with ECU .. you know like bump timing up or extend rpm change mapping .. DOES THE ECU come with a witness statement of truth as to whats been modified .. and even if it does whos to say such ECU is in the ECU in the bike at time of running... WHO CHECKS ALL THIS SHITT..
on a busa you can flash(edit) as you made your runs .. datalog every pass and change fuel to conditions and pass .. theres reasons why bikes are pulled into enclosed trailers to make adjustments too ..
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posted April 06, 2012 08:04 AM
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In stock class they allow removal of the speed limiter...otherwise what is the point?
How they know thats all they removed when REFLASHING with ECU .. you know like bump timing up or extend rpm change mapping .. DOES THE ECU come with a witness statement of truth as to whats been modified .. and even if it does whos to say such ECU is in the ECU in the bike at time of running... WHO CHECKS ALL THIS SHITT..
on a busa you can flash(edit) as you made your runs .. datalog every pass and change fuel to conditions and pass .. theres reasons why bikes are pulled into enclosed trailers to make adjustments too ..
Well, you can sweat that as much as you want, I suppose...I know how much of a hardcore LSR guy you are.  You always seem to have the shittiest angle on anyone elses accomplishments, lol...
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posted April 06, 2012 09:10 AM
WOW,
I have seen ol Marty in a few years. We used to race back in San Antonio..... Glad that he is doing well.
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posted April 06, 2012 05:39 PM
Throttle bodies are too small for top speed. Doug Meyer ran 192.3 on a 2000 zx12r. Put some 47 throttle bodies and this bike will burn.
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posted April 13, 2012 04:55 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 13 Apr 2012 14:13
OK i got 2nd hand info yesterday on this event .. the stock zx14r ran 195mph but there was a gen 2 busa with a pipe and MR12 and auto-tuning thru the ECU that ran a 197mph.. same day runnings.. just something to compare
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posted April 13, 2012 12:48 PM
wow the busa beat the new 14 who would have thought.
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posted April 13, 2012 01:33 PM
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OK i got 2nd hand info yesterday on this event .. the stock zx14r ran 195mph but there was a gen 2 busa with a pipe and MR12 and auto-tuning thru the ECU that ran a 197mph.. same day runnings.. just something to compare
Witha pipe tune TBs mr12 wheels that zx14RRR is gonna fly! EL OH EL!
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posted April 17, 2012 10:04 AM
Edited By: Master on 17 Apr 2012 18:05
What I was pointing out was that 14r has more torque and hp than that busa but the ergonomics on the 14 still is its weak point in LSR. the zx12 also had good eronomics and ran faster with less hp.
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posted April 17, 2012 11:20 AM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 17 Apr 2012 19:31
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What I was pointing out was that 14r has more torque and hp than that busa but the ergonomics on the 14 still is its weak point in LSR. the zx12 also had good eronomics and ran faster with less hp.
Eronomics is the study of how the human body fits a device , like a seat or steering wheel... if you are going to make shit up at least know what the hell you are talking about.The word you were looking for was Aerodynamics ...So far nobody has proven the the gen 2 busa is any better than the gen 2 zx14r in aerodynamics ..
Second....he said the busa was modded, piped ,tunned and had race fuel mr12 ran 197....the zx14r was stock but for the top speed limiter removed .. Get it ? stock pipes , no PC , no tune ..and still ran 195..
I swear we have some real dip shits posting here at times .. 
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posted April 17, 2012 01:36 PM
Edited By: MJ on 17 Apr 2012 21:37
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What I was pointing out was that 14r has more torque and hp than that busa but the ergonomics on the 14 still is its weak point in LSR. the zx12 also had good eronomics and ran faster with less hp.
Eronomics is the study of how the human body fits a device , like a seat or steering wheel... if you are going to make shit up at least know what the hell you are talking about.The word you were looking for was Aerodynamics ...So far nobody has proven the the gen 2 busa is any better than the gen 2 zx14r in aerodynamics ..
Second....he said the busa was modded, piped ,tunned and had race fuel mr12 ran 197....the zx14r was stock but for the top speed limiter removed .. Get it ? stock pipes , no PC , no tune ..and still ran 195..
I swear we have some real dip shits posting here at times ..
I agree. And since the new 14 came out so have the dipshits in droves it seems. I guess thats the price you pay for being the new King of quick 
Bring on the dipshits....I love ripping them new ones 
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