davej
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posted March 31, 2012 07:39 PM
At 5'7" tall with a 28" inseam, this bike is perfect for me. Got two Goldwings rotting in the garage along with the Triumph and a mix of other machines. Peak HP is great if you don't have to shift gears. I get as many compliments, maybe more than the old Triumph. When I was a young pup the Triumph was the ultimate machine next to the Vincent. How times have changed and thank goodness. The Busa isn't a monoblock which is a great advantage when is comes time to try different pistons. As a stock bike, my 14R SE is the Bee's knees and a bit faster than fuk, OMG, etc.
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dakota9498
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posted March 31, 2012 07:49 PM
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Max horsepower is Peak horsepower.
Y'ALL CAN EXPLAIN IT TO RICKEY ..he explained it to me ..
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IT WAS 30 HP PEAK AND 41 AT REDLINE.......READ THE DYNO CHART I JUST REPOSTED DUDE!!!
And it says it right there. 30 peak, 41 at readline, which is not peak...lol
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1badzx12r
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posted March 31, 2012 08:13 PM
 Edited By: 1badzx12r on 1 Apr 2012 04:14
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Max horsepower is Peak horsepower.
Y'ALL CAN EXPLAIN IT TO RICKEY ..he explained it to me ..
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IT WAS 30 HP PEAK AND 41 AT REDLINE.......READ THE DYNO CHART I JUST REPOSTED DUDE!!!
And it says it right there. 30 peak, 41 at readline, which is not peak...lol
then how did he get the 8 mph if the 41 hp don't count
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MJ
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posted March 31, 2012 09:59 PM
The 2008 and up 14's stock were known to be bad rich at higher rpm's, they lost power a little past 9 grand like a mofo. In my february 08 MotorCyclist mag on page 59 the 08 14 made 167.2 rwhp at 9250rpm vs the 06 they tested that made 175.7 at 9550rpm. They said the 08's power dumped off after 9250 and was making only 153rwhp at the 10,750rpm redline. It dropped 14.2 hp by then. The air/fuel ratio was 10.5:1
It probably would have been better to run the 14R against a properly afr tuned 2011 14. That bad rich stock high rpm power loss made the new 14R look that much better.
Maybe Rickey should have tested against a stock 06-07......the REAL powerhouses 
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Greggy
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posted April 01, 2012 03:18 AM
I don't know what you are worried about - my 2012 ZX-14R only made 173 RWHP  And that was with TB carbon V.A.L.E. slip ons and P1X power tips.
Then again on the same day & same dyno a BMW S1000RR with an akrapovic pipe and PCV made 175 RWHP so perhaps that dyno just read a little low.
IMO if you are over 180HP and still 100% stock you should be happy.
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1badzx12r
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posted April 01, 2012 05:59 AM
this should get you by the BO BO ..http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=35266 197hp out of an 08 zx14...
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dakota9498
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posted April 01, 2012 06:07 AM
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Max horsepower is Peak horsepower.
Y'ALL CAN EXPLAIN IT TO RICKEY ..he explained it to me ..
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IT WAS 30 HP PEAK AND 41 AT REDLINE.......READ THE DYNO CHART I JUST REPOSTED DUDE!!!
And it says it right there. 30 peak, 41 at readline, which is not peak...lol
then how did he get the 8 mph if the 41 hp don't count
It counts, it is part of the area under the curve which is more important than just the peak power.
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1badzx12r
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posted April 01, 2012 06:08 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 1 Apr 2012 14:10
here you go OP ..more dyno numbers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Peft3Y7TzRQ 2010 AND 2011 ZX10'S VS BMW
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1badzx12r
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posted April 01, 2012 06:13 AM
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It counts, it is part of the area under the curve which is more important than just the peak power.
that explains 11,000+ RPM shift chips and ecu flashed rev extenders .. so the power under the curve really doesn't matter then i guess
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dakota9498
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posted April 01, 2012 06:15 AM
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It counts, it is part of the area under the curve which is more important than just the peak power.
that explains 11,000+ RPM shift chips and ecu flashed rev extenders .. so the power under the curve really doesn't matter then i guess
That doesn't make sense. Of course it counts, you extend the revs and you get more area under the curve because the new curve is larger.
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1badzx12r
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posted April 01, 2012 06:19 AM
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It counts, it is part of the area under the curve which is more important than just the peak power.
that explains 11,000+ RPM shift chips and ecu flashed rev extenders .. so the power under the curve really doesn't matter then i guess
That doesn't make sense. Of course it counts, you extend the revs and you get more area under the curve because the new curve is larger.
thank you i win
but the curve fell off at 9.000 rpm where the peak hp made ..
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dakota9498
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posted April 01, 2012 06:20 AM
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thank you i win
but the curve fell off at 9.000 rpm where the peak hp made ..
I give up you are hopeless.
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1badzx12r
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posted April 01, 2012 06:25 AM
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thank you i win
but the curve fell off at 9.000 rpm where the peak hp made ..
I give up you are hopeless.
yeah.. but i can run a 5.30 ...well maybe not today
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quikgix
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posted April 01, 2012 06:35 AM
My 07 with a ported head,47mm TB's , degree'd cams , milled .020" ,Brock's sidewinder(baffle out)MR12 made 186hp with 104ftlbs torque. I think the new 14r is a bad mofo out the crate. They all seem to be making 180+ HP stock and that's nothing to be ashamed of.
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1badzx12r
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posted April 01, 2012 07:55 AM
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My 07 with a ported head,47mm TB's , degree'd cams , milled .020" ,Brock's sidewinder(baffle out)MR12 made 186hp with 104ftlbs torque. I think the new 14r is a bad mofo out the crate. They all seem to be making 180+ HP stock and that's nothing to be ashamed of.
my 06 was dynoed on pump gas and a muzzy pipe @189 rwhp ..i rode the bike there to watch a friend dyno and tune his bike for the texas mile .. just for the hell of it they ran mine to compair his with a tsuhigi pipe and race gas and a few other odds and ends ..his best was a 185rwhp after tuning it. they also tuned a 50 shot afterwards ..the bike ran 200.2 mph at the mile on spray with a 230lb rider ..6 months or so later i stuck a brock smeg on mine and it dynoed a best of 191rwhp..an 08 busa came in while i was there they where new to the market then..it had a pipe and a PCV and bested a 186 rwhp.. the owner was pissed that my mostly stock zx14 out dynoed his 08 busa..when the magazines rumor was the 08 busa was the shittz on the dyno .. we both had pump gas and rode our bikes there 100 miles 1 way ... i broke my bike in hard from the moment it left the dealership to 50+k miles later when i sold it .. all the other guys babied theirs when new.. my 2002 zx12 was the same story never had an issue and rode the shit out of it for 38k miles ..
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GixxerJohn
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posted April 01, 2012 08:26 AM
i just think are new 14r were a lil OVER HYPED like ever other bike if u ask me.
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01smokes
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posted April 01, 2012 08:36 AM
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i just think are new 14r were a lil OVER HYPED like ever other bike if u ask me.
+1 I raced some and was not really all that impressed. Ya they are quicker but for 30+ clammed HP I would have expected a ass beating like I wouldn't believe
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eklipse636
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posted April 01, 2012 08:44 AM
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i just think are new 14r were a lil OVER HYPED like ever other bike if u ask me.
+1 I raced some and was not really all that impressed. Ya they are quicker but for 30+ clammed HP I would have expected a ass beating like I wouldn't believe
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we have 3 guys here that run regularly with us and they all run the same times, if not a hair slower than mine. Granted, oneguy his bike and rider weight is 70lbs more than me, but he has a 12" swingarm to my extensions. Now his dad has ran it and got some very good numbers, but overall I'm not seeing the same numbers at our local track as I am online.
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1badzx12r
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posted April 01, 2012 09:01 AM
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i just think are new 14r were a lil OVER HYPED like ever other bike if u ask me.
i know their OVERPRICED
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GixxerJohn
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posted April 01, 2012 09:02 AM
Edited By: GixxerJohn on 1 Apr 2012 17:03
hahahah i hear that,i got killed on the price of mine......but i still love it.
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kaw-rick
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posted April 01, 2012 09:30 AM
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i just think are new 14r were a lil OVER HYPED like ever other bike if u ask me.
+1 I raced some and was not really all that impressed. Ya they are quicker but for 30+ clammed HP I would have expected a ass beating like I wouldn't believe
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we have 3 guys here that run regularly with us and they all run the same times, if not a hair slower than mine. Granted, oneguy his bike and rider weight is 70lbs more than me, but he has a 12" swingarm to my extensions. Now his dad has ran it and got some very good numbers, but overall I'm not seeing the same numbers at our local track as I am online.
why dont you throw a leg over 1 of those new bikes?
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eklipse636
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posted April 01, 2012 09:35 AM
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i just think are new 14r were a lil OVER HYPED like ever other bike if u ask me.
+1 I raced some and was not really all that impressed. Ya they are quicker but for 30+ clammed HP I would have expected a ass beating like I wouldn't believe
+2
we have 3 guys here that run regularly with us and they all run the same times, if not a hair slower than mine. Granted, oneguy his bike and rider weight is 70lbs more than me, but he has a 12" swingarm to my extensions. Now his dad has ran it and got some very good numbers, but overall I'm not seeing the same numbers at our local track as I am online.
why dont you throw a leg over 1 of those new bikes?
Rick I'd love to, just waiting on someone to ask!
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kaw-rick
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posted April 01, 2012 09:38 AM
where ya located?
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ryn0cer0s
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posted April 01, 2012 09:53 AM
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thank you i win
but the curve fell off at 9.000 rpm where the peak hp made ..
I give up you are hopeless.
Dakota, the only thing I have to ad to this thread, is read your own signature. Gotta love Mark Twain.
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JZX
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posted April 01, 2012 10:08 AM
One thing I think everyone knows is that drag racing or roll racing- rider skill has alot to do with the outcome- hp will make a big difference if skill level/ bodyweight are comparable.
In the mean time, I'm going to continue beating up on beemers with my 06-
I would like to have a 2012 14, maybe later.
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