CraZX14
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posted March 30, 2012 10:31 AM
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no it ain't .. becaused 186mph limiter.. you can have a 900hp bike and its still not going to beat what the busa did in 1999... people didn't buy a busa cause it had 160hp .. they bought them because it was the fastest bike ever made and was advertised as a 200mph bike .. until the zx14r can do that its not ever going to beat the busa.
I gotta disagree - the top speed limiter is just a technicality - a minor one that can be addressed easily with an ecu reflash. Building 900 hp on the other hand.....
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MJ
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posted March 30, 2012 01:33 PM
Badguy has a point, officially the original busa is still the fastest STOCK bike ever made at 194mph, at least according to the Guiness book of world records I believe 
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Wheelie
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posted March 30, 2012 01:43 PM
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Badguy has a point, officially the original busa is still the fastest STOCK bike ever made at 194mph, at least according to the Guiness book of world records I believe
only point BadGuy has is on top of his head.
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1badzx12r
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posted March 30, 2012 02:49 PM
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Badguy has a point, officially the original busa is still the fastest STOCK bike ever made at 194mph, at least according to the Guiness book of world records I believe
only point BadGuy has is on top of his head.
wee
thats not what the wimens says when my log hits them ..
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smokinZX14
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posted March 30, 2012 03:21 PM
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Badguy has a point, officially the original busa is still the fastest STOCK bike ever made at 194mph, at least according to the Guiness book of world records I believe
only point BadGuy has is on top of his head.
wee
thats not what the wimens says when my log hits them ..
This log ...lol...
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1badzx12r
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posted March 30, 2012 03:56 PM
 Edited By: 1badzx12r on 30 Mar 2012 23:56
they do come in other sizes than new born ..http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_worlds_largest_tootsie_roll but some people don't know that
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venomous_zx
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posted March 30, 2012 04:01 PM
good one lee.....  just dont put a huge exhuast on your bike and try to compensate
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FearsomeKawasaki
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posted March 31, 2012 03:09 AM
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Badguy has a point, officially the original busa is still the fastest STOCK bike ever made at 194mph, at least according to the Guiness book of world records I believe
Badguy doesn't have a point. The Guiness entry is only a refefrence to reports in bike mags, not a scientific or governing body test that they usually stipulate. Indeed, it actually says "is REPORTED to be the Suzuki Hayabusa at 194mph". Other mags had the 12 faster than the Busa, 14s faster than the Busa, so Guiness are a bit out of date to say the least.
No formal test has ever been done and having literally witnessed hundreds of top speed runs by stock Busas and done a few myself, it's true top speed in neutral wind is mid-180s. 194mph is possible with a midget and a big tail wind but any records meet usually requires you to back that up in the opposite direction to make it remotely credible.
In fact the only official record held for stock bikes within a governing body's rules that Guiness could use was the Muzzy 12R at 199mph mentioned above.
At present they're racing limiters so it's totally academic and to refer to 12 year old mags reports to say what's still the fastest is like burying your head in the sand. The 14R's power at redline is the same as a decent built bike and in that class you'd expect c.205mph, which is where I think the 14R would sit totally stock if it had it's gearing and electronic restrictions removed.
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oldkawboy
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posted March 31, 2012 04:16 AM
I'd say you're close on the money Fearsome with the 205.
Back in '06 we borrowed a brand new 14 that had 21 miles on it and at Maxton in decent conditions my youngest son Chad ran a 196.1mph with only the limiter bypassed. That was stone stock even with the break-in oil still in it.
Below is a shot of Chad & Brock with the first 14 to crack 200.....just barely. The bike had bolt-ons and I'm pretty sure it probably wasn't making as much power as the new R. I'll have to re-read Brocks diaries to find out.
The new R's are crazy fast stock, Brock just simply makes them a whole bunch faster.
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justoyz2
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posted March 31, 2012 05:15 AM
Ok, so where can we see this dyno chart of the bike producing the 227 RWHP and if purchasing the exhaust from Brock will get you around this number?.... sounds like a SS motor
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smokinZX14
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posted March 31, 2012 06:08 AM
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Ok, so where can we see this dyno chart of the bike producing the 227 RWHP and if purchasing the exhaust from Brock will get you around this number?.... sounds like a SS motor
You will get the same map .... Trust me on that ..what it reads on a different dyno i have no clue ..
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justoyz2
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posted March 31, 2012 10:02 AM
Billy Bad Azz, how are you feeling? I have been off the net for a min or two, and haven't heard much on your recovery. I am curious as to what your bike is pulling these days.
I have everything in place except for the new exhaust. I have the first Gen AH1 right now. I am guessing the difference is in the mid range and a few ponies up top.
I have been trying to find more out about the Petron plus additive, but nothing gives, except it is equal in weight to some thick like malasses.... since you have used it before how accurate is what I have been told?
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1badzx12r
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posted March 31, 2012 11:11 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 31 Mar 2012 19:12
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Badguy has a point, officially the original busa is still the fastest STOCK bike ever made at 194mph, at least according to the Guiness book of world records I believe
Badguy doesn't have a point. The Guiness entry is only a refefrence to reports in bike mags, not a scientific or governing body test that they usually stipulate. Indeed, it actually says "is REPORTED to be the Suzuki Hayabusa at 194mph". Other mags had the 12 faster than the Busa, 14s faster than the Busa, so Guiness are a bit out of date to say the least.
No formal test has ever been done and having literally witnessed hundreds of top speed runs by stock Busas and done a few myself, it's true top speed in neutral wind is mid-180s. 194mph is possible with a midget and a big tail wind but any records meet usually requires you to back that up in the opposite direction to make it remotely credible.
In fact the only official record held for stock bikes within a governing body's rules that Guiness could use was the Muzzy 12R at 199mph mentioned above.
At present they're racing limiters so it's totally academic and to refer to 12 year old mags reports to say what's still the fastest is like burying your head in the sand. The 14R's power at redline is the same as a decent built bike and in that class you'd expect c.205mph, which is where I think the 14R would sit totally stock if it had it's gearing and electronic restrictions removed.
well when the zx14r is on the discovery channel .. come back and talk to me ..http://www.need4speed.ws/videos/suzuki-hayabusa-on-discovery-channel-very-fast then its made it mark..
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Wheelie
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posted March 31, 2012 11:16 AM
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Badguy has a point, officially the original busa is still the fastest STOCK bike ever made at 194mph, at least according to the Guiness book of world records I believe
Badguy doesn't have a point. The Guiness entry is only a refefrence to reports in bike mags, not a scientific or governing body test that they usually stipulate. Indeed, it actually says "is REPORTED to be the Suzuki Hayabusa at 194mph". Other mags had the 12 faster than the Busa, 14s faster than the Busa, so Guiness are a bit out of date to say the least.
No formal test has ever been done and having literally witnessed hundreds of top speed runs by stock Busas and done a few myself, it's true top speed in neutral wind is mid-180s. 194mph is possible with a midget and a big tail wind but any records meet usually requires you to back that up in the opposite direction to make it remotely credible.
In fact the only official record held for stock bikes within a governing body's rules that Guiness could use was the Muzzy 12R at 199mph mentioned above.
At present they're racing limiters so it's totally academic and to refer to 12 year old mags reports to say what's still the fastest is like burying your head in the sand. The 14R's power at redline is the same as a decent built bike and in that class you'd expect c.205mph, which is where I think the 14R would sit totally stock if it had it's gearing and electronic restrictions removed.
well when the zx14r is on the discovery channel .. come back and talk to me ..http://www.need4speed.ws/videos/suzuki-hayabusa-on-discovery-channel-very-fast then its made it mark..
don't call us, we'll call you.
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posted March 31, 2012 11:31 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 31 Mar 2012 19:34
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don't call us, we'll call you.
wee
227hp and your still running 5.60's ..SO
that's a phone call i'll never have to worry about since it never happen...except maybe in a bling bling since..
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posted March 31, 2012 11:32 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 31 Mar 2012 19:33
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posted March 31, 2012 12:19 PM
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don't call us, we'll call you.
wee
227hp and your still running 5.60's ..SO
that's a phone call i'll never have to worry about since it never happen...except maybe in a bling bling since..
Wee's 09 must have been 222 hp it went 5.64!
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dubious
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posted March 31, 2012 12:22 PM
Cant wait till I get my hands on one and uncork it with brocks mods!
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posted March 31, 2012 06:05 PM
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