redbarron2006
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posted January 06, 2012 11:09 AM
1.75 correction factor,,,
Fresh of dyno. New amsoil in the belly, bike made 196.2 at 10, 000... 115 tq.
Same dyno 3 years ago showed 174 on my 2006... Take in for the good weather and what I call dyno-I-tes and this Thing is still a good 20hp over the old bike that had a pc3 and flys out.
  
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redbarron2006
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posted January 06, 2012 12:35 PM
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/redbarron07/dynosheet2012.jpg
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Wheelie
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posted January 06, 2012 12:36 PM
wee
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redbarron2006
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posted January 06, 2012 01:02 PM
seems a bit optimistic but it runs its ass off..
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Grinner
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posted January 07, 2012 01:53 AM
+1 bit optomistic too. and 11200 rpm in 5th gear does not correlate to 145mph , seems to me it would be probably 4th gear which will give more horsepower and torq?
Does anyone agree?
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posted January 07, 2012 04:43 AM
RPM & MPH do not correspond unless he has like -1/+5.... 2900 RPM 1.4 TQ, BUT 3000 RPM 55 TQ???
Something is off.
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eklipse636
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posted January 07, 2012 04:49 AM
Seno, look at hp at 2,900 rpms. Obviously that's where he started the run.
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biggmoinc
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posted January 07, 2012 05:13 AM
Quick question, as far as racing shift points do u think that shifting at 10500 is going to b better than 11k or so?
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redbarron2006
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posted January 07, 2012 07:16 AM
the runs were done in 4rth gear
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Lacker 14
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posted January 07, 2012 08:56 AM
so is that 174 hp on your 06 with stock pipes? my 06 and 08 did 177hp with a full brock system.
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joseph702
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posted January 07, 2012 10:03 AM
that dyno looks very messed up in impo . afr speed and every thing looks off
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justoyz2
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posted January 07, 2012 10:06 AM
Unless I am looking at this wrong, starting at 2900 to 7600 rpm; the dyno shows the bike is very lean 15. to 1 @ 2900 to 14 to 1 with alot of 16's, 17s and even some 18 to 1 ratios.
What exhaust is installed on your bike, 2ndly why does yours go way rich like 12s after 9700 rpm.... it's in the 12.7 to 1 and gets richer..... the power really falls off quickly... this is unlike the other 14r's
Can you explain?
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redbarron2006
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posted January 07, 2012 10:40 AM
this bike is DEAD STOCK... and 12s is NOT way rich..
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kawa74
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posted January 07, 2012 10:49 AM
Look at top of Chart. ..STANDARD , not SAE. SAE is about 97% of 196 standard = 190 , - 1 for oil= 189 , like all the other STOCK piped post.
A/F reading is all messed up.
Rickey G's was 195 STOCK piped @ STANDARD x 97% = 189.15
Were did I get 97%?? Smoking dyno post , with a SMEG pipe = 202.8 STD; SAE pull was 197, divided by 202.8 = 97%
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joseph702
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posted January 07, 2012 12:27 PM
very nice kawa. some very smart people on here. and for the afr on stock pipe like that its scary . im 13.0-13.2 thru almost the whole thing with brocks ct.
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eklipse636
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posted January 07, 2012 12:40 PM
quote:
Quick question, as far as racing shift points do u think that shifting at 10500 is going to b better than 11k or so?
I have always been told that shifting higher is better. I have not run any faster shifting at a higher rpm. I shift at 10,500 now
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redbarron2006
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posted January 07, 2012 12:55 PM
you have to realize, i could only get the reader about halfway down the stock muffler. i dont know if this effected the reading or not. regardless, 190+ for stock bike..i am satisfied..
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joseph702
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posted January 07, 2012 01:03 PM
190 hp stock bike is sick im pushing 190 with head cut and super sport and brocks pipe. so 190 is amazing . and ya 10,500 was a great shift point for me too
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kaw now
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posted January 07, 2012 07:57 PM
Looks lean on account of pair valve maybe. And catalyc converter.
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justoyz2
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posted January 08, 2012 06:46 AM
I am not saying your numbers are not good, just curious as to why the bike is pulling such lean numbers. As to the a/f richer than 12.7 to 1; those are very rich numbers for a stock bike. I know the Gen 1 w/stock exhaust was very rich as well; at least the 14R doesn't go so RICH. I can't wait to get mine.
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Shane661
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posted January 08, 2012 06:49 AM
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I am not saying your numbers are not good, just curious as to why the bike is pulling such lean numbers. As to the a/f richer than 12.7 to 1; those are very rich numbers for a stock bike. I know the Gen 1 w/stock exhaust was very rich as well; at least the 14R doesn't go so RICH. I can't wait to get mine.
We had a hard time getting the sniffer into the stock pipe, so I didn't even bother. I think he posted that they could not get the sniffer fully into the pipe, and that will account for odd readings from the sensor.
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justoyz2
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posted January 08, 2012 07:02 AM
yeah, I read that, but it's not like you need the entire copper tube in the exhaust. On my turbo bike, only about 4 inches was installed.
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Shane661
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posted January 08, 2012 12:10 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Jan 2012 20:12
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yeah, I read that, but it's not like you need the entire copper tube in the exhaust. On my turbo bike, only about 4 inches was installed.
I have had very inconsistent results without a proper sensor arrangement. Reversion is a big issue, and I have seen this on MANY bikes. On your turbo, if it was at at the dump pipe, that is an entirely different animal....
I can promise you, his a/f results are most likely from the sensing tube arrangement. The power output is entirely normal.
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redbarron2006
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posted January 08, 2012 08:31 PM
Since I was not actually tuning, I was not overly concerned about the wideband working or not. After reading what Wheelie and them are doin I am pretty sure the big HP this motor is Making is undeniable.
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