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posted January 03, 2012 03:06 PM
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This is funny. A 300 hp turbo trying to race a stock motor... 
where do you get 300hp from
don't you have a 200hp stock hp zx14r
I think your mph points to 300 hp, big guy. 
How much power is it making, set the record straight!!??!
Shane
how much hp you think a stock zx14 gen 1 motor makes with a junky cyclelogic kit @ 8lbs .. this is no jones performance built motor stage 3 kit with 400hp motor i got .. don't you guys have a ported head and 4mm stroke and lighter bike with 60 more hp than a gen 1 after mods .. don't be making excuses your dyno and build threads say differant.. hell i don't even use the 0wt and petron
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posted January 03, 2012 03:13 PM
I think the 14R is about 20 hp or so, mod-for-mod over a Gen 1. Not turbo power at all.
Let us know the mph, and that will be a good measure of hp.
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posted January 03, 2012 03:19 PM
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This is funny. A 300 hp turbo trying to race a stock motor...
where do you get 300hp from
don't you have a 200hp stock hp zx14r
I think your mph points to 300 hp, big guy.
How much power is it making, set the record straight!!??!
Shane
how much hp you think a stock zx14 gen 1 motor makes with a junky cyclelogic kit @ 8lbs .. this is no jones performance built motor stage 3 kit with 400hp motor i got .. don't you guys have a ported head and 4mm stroke and lighter bike with 60 more hp than a gen 1 after mods .. don't be making excuses your dyno and build threads say differant.. hell i don't even use the 0wt and petron
LOL...
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posted January 03, 2012 03:24 PM
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ok since all i get is excuses from you wee ..hows this
race schedule
march 12th sealy 100.00
unknown date kennedale 100.00
tie breaker if needed 300.00..the best ET from the earlier races decides track and date
Kennedale Grudge Fest, I'm not chasing you all over Texas...
wee
thats not all over texas.. that 1 at your track and 1 at mine .. both tracks are holding events for motorcycles ... the 3rd is in case its a tie .. . i'll let you off the hook since all i'm gonna get is excuses from you ...
i taught all you guys want is 1/4 mile heads-up racing thats what tx2k12 is.. all i ever hear is how bracket racing ain't racing
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posted January 03, 2012 03:25 PM
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posted January 03, 2012 03:29 PM
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I think the 14R is about 20 hp or so, mod-for-mod over a Gen 1. Not turbo power at all.
Let us know the mph, and that will be a good measure of hp.
Shane
but gadsen said the zx14r has 41 more hp. then oil is 9hp more .. then pipe is 10hp more.. then mr12 is 10 hp more ... pcv and such is 5hp more... and all i got is 8lbs on e85 on a stock motor .. wee said NT/PT so i ain't giving my times either
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posted January 03, 2012 03:31 PM
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I think the 14R is about 20 hp or so, mod-for-mod over a Gen 1. Not turbo power at all.
Let us know the mph, and that will be a good measure of hp.
Shane
but gadsen said the zx14r has 41 more hp. then oil is 9hp more .. then pipe is 10hp more.. then mr12 is 10 hp more ... pcv and such is 5hp more... and all i got is 8lbs on e85 on a stock motor .. wee said NT/PT so i ain't giving my times either
All we can do is laugh at your math. You have a turbo bike running on E85 and you are calling out guys running pump gas on a stock motor? Too funny!!
I am sure you will throw some insults out, but it is to be expected!
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posted January 03, 2012 03:34 PM
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I think the 14R is about 20 hp or so, mod-for-mod over a Gen 1. Not turbo power at all.
Let us know the mph, and that will be a good measure of hp.
Shane
but gadsen said the zx14r has 41 more hp. then oil is 9hp more .. then pipe is 10hp more.. then mr12 is 10 hp more ... pcv and such is 5hp more... and all i got is 8lbs on e85 on a stock motor .. wee said NT/PT so i ain't giving my times either
All we can do is laugh at your math. You have a turbo bike running on E85 and you are calling out guys running on a stock motor? Too funny!!
I am sure you will throw some insults out, but it is to be expected!
Shane
my math is correctly posted from you and gadsen postings on the zx14r ..is if my math is fukk its from yours and gadsen findings and testings ..
AND NO A STOCK MOTOR IS A GEN 1 a gen 2 has a stroke and ported head with other refinements to pwer ..
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posted January 03, 2012 03:35 PM
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ok since all i get is excuses from you wee ..hows this
race schedule
march 12th sealy 100.00
unknown date kennedale 100.00
tie breaker if needed 300.00..the best ET from the earlier races decides track and date
Kennedale Grudge Fest, I'm not chasing you all over Texas...
wee
thats not all over texas.. that 1 at your track and 1 at mine .. both tracks are holding events for motorcycles ... the 3rd is in case its a tie .. . i'll let you off the hook since all i'm gonna get is excuses from you ...
i taught all you guys want is 1/4 mile heads-up racing thats what tx2k12 is.. all i ever hear is how bracket racing ain't racing
I've never been on your hook, I will be at Texas Grudge Fest at Kennedale
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posted January 03, 2012 03:37 PM
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ok since all i get is excuses from you wee ..hows this
race schedule
march 12th sealy 100.00
unknown date kennedale 100.00
tie breaker if needed 300.00..the best ET from the earlier races decides track and date
Kennedale Grudge Fest, I'm not chasing you all over Texas...
wee
thats not all over texas.. that 1 at your track and 1 at mine .. both tracks are holding events for motorcycles ... the 3rd is in case its a tie .. . i'll let you off the hook since all i'm gonna get is excuses from you ...
i taught all you guys want is 1/4 mile heads-up racing thats what tx2k12 is.. all i ever hear is how bracket racing ain't racing
I've never been on your hook, I will be at Texas Grudge Fest at Kennedale
wee
i don't care where you go ..all you want is your race .. so fukk you ..
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posted January 03, 2012 03:39 PM
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my math is correctly posted from you and gadsen postings on the zx14r ..is if my math is fukk its from yours and gadsen findings and testings ..
AND NO A STOCK MOTOR IS A GEN 1 a gen 2 has a stroke and ported head with other refinements to pwer ..
You might want to read my posts more closely. So far it looks like about a 20 hp difference, mod-for-mod.
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posted January 03, 2012 03:42 PM
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ok since all i get is excuses from you wee ..hows this
race schedule
march 12th sealy 100.00
unknown date kennedale 100.00
tie breaker if needed 300.00..the best ET from the earlier races decides track and date
Kennedale Grudge Fest, I'm not chasing you all over Texas...
wee
thats not all over texas.. that 1 at your track and 1 at mine .. both tracks are holding events for motorcycles ... the 3rd is in case its a tie .. . i'll let you off the hook since all i'm gonna get is excuses from you ...
i taught all you guys want is 1/4 mile heads-up racing thats what tx2k12 is.. all i ever hear is how bracket racing ain't racing
I've never been on your hook, I will be at Texas Grudge Fest at Kennedale
wee
i don't care where you go ..all you want is your race .. so fukk you ..
great, see you at Texas Grudge Fest
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1badzx12r
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posted January 03, 2012 03:43 PM
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my math is correctly posted from you and gadsen postings on the zx14r ..is if my math is fukk its from yours and gadsen findings and testings ..
AND NO A STOCK MOTOR IS A GEN 1 a gen 2 has a stroke and ported head with other refinements to pwer ..
You might want to read my posts more closely. So far it looks like about a 20 hp difference, mod-for-mod.
Shane
but is that 20 hp more on top of the 41hp gadsen shows in his dyno pulls .. stock vs stock .
so you trying to tell me now that the zx14r with a 4mm stroke and a ported head and whatever now only has 20 hp more than a gen 1 .. you need to go tell gadsen that ..
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posted January 03, 2012 03:48 PM
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but is that 20 hp more on top of the 41hp gadsen shows in his dyno pulls .. stock vs stock .
so you trying to tell me now that the zx14r with a 4mm stroke and a ported head and whatever now only has 20 hp more than a gen 1 .. you need to go tell gadsen that ..
I know that math is very scary for you. Suffice it to say, that at +20 hp the 14R is making more power than it would on added displacement alone.
At the end of the day, we have a guy with a turbo running on E85 challenging a guy running pump gas with a stock motor. It speaks volumes about the riders and bikes in question.
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posted January 03, 2012 04:01 PM
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but is that 20 hp more on top of the 41hp gadsen shows in his dyno pulls .. stock vs stock .
so you trying to tell me now that the zx14r with a 4mm stroke and a ported head and whatever now only has 20 hp more than a gen 1 .. you need to go tell gadsen that ..
I know that math is very scary for you. Suffice it to say, that at +20 hp the 14R is making more power than it would on added displacement alone.
At the end of the day, we have a guy with a turbo running on E85 challenging a guy running pump gas with a stock motor. It speaks volumes about the riders and bikes in question.
Shane
no you need to stop with this my math sux shitt.. LIKE I TOLD YOU I GOT IT FROM YOU GUYS do you want me to go get Gadsens dyno results from Vegas .. and then his 8.99 @156mph stock bike runs VS STOCK GEN 1 MOTORS... and then your 10hp oil gains with your 10hp pipe gains.. AND BROCK STATING WHAT ALL IT TAKES TO MATCH A ZX14R...
SO do you guys still have the king of all bikes now or not ..or was it all a lie
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posted January 03, 2012 04:11 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 4 Jan 2012 00:12
Too much crazy math, man .All of our dyno charts indicate roughly 200 hp SAE, at best, with a pipe on pump gas. But you are challenging that with a turbo on E85...
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posted January 03, 2012 04:11 PM
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The answer to your 30 hp = 8 mph question is............................................it was 30 hp peak and 41hp at red line!! 41....41....41HP difference equals 8 mph............ALL DAY
i'm glad i quote people
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posted January 03, 2012 04:18 PM
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Too much crazy math, man .All of our dyno charts indicate roughly 200 hp SAE, at best, with a pipe on pump gas. But you are challenging that with a turbo on E85...
Shane
yeah 2.87 a gallon e85 vs mr12 ..only a fool would use pump gas .. didn't brock say so
and you want a 152hp gen 1 motor vs a 193hp zx14r
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posted January 03, 2012 04:20 PM
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1Bad is not whining about his weight, so don't whin about his power.
Shane,
I remember when you and smokin were comparing personal performance and you didn't have a problem bring nitrous into the equation (when it benifited you).
Not tring to take sides, just stating facts.
If you don't have enough to beat the guy next to you, and you all can't work something out (bike the break etc.) just Bow out. Don't result to talking down on the guy that is faster. It just makes you look bad.
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posted January 03, 2012 04:25 PM
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1Bad is not whining about his weight, so don't whin about his power.
Shane,
I remember when you and smokin were comparing personal performance and you didn't have problem bring nitrous into the equation (when it benifited you).
Not tring to take sides, just stating facts.
If you don't have enough to beat the guy next to you, and you all can't work something out (bike the break etc.) just Bow out. Don't result to talking down on the guy that is faster. It just makes you look bad.
I've never ran nitrous, ever?? If I wanted to run Lee, I would say "give me something"....he is that much faster and lighter than me. I wouldn't talk trash if I were running a turbo, believe it!
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posted January 03, 2012 04:30 PM
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I've never ran nitrous, ever?? If I wanted to run Lee, I would say "give me something"....he is that much faster and lighter than me. I wouldn't talk trash if I were running a turbo, believe it!
Shane
where you people come up with this fair racing shitt.. everybody want a sure win .. thats why i bracket race.. but you guys tell me bracket racing suxs and ain't racing.. so if you got to spot somebody ain't that bracket racing... so make up your minds on this heads up stuff..
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posted January 03, 2012 04:31 PM
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but is that 20 hp more on top of the 41hp gadsen shows in his dyno pulls .. stock vs stock .
so you trying to tell me now that the zx14r with a 4mm stroke and a ported head and whatever now only has 20 hp more than a gen 1 .. you need to go tell gadsen that ..
I know that math is very scary for you. Suffice it to say, that at +20 hp the 14R is making more power than it would on added displacement alone.
At the end of the day, we have a guy with a turbo running on E85 challenging a guy running pump gas with a stock motor. It speaks volumes about the riders and bikes in question.
Shane
didn't RURU beat that turbo busa with giant size rear sprocket a day or two ago with a stock zx14r?? bunch of pix too!!
never mind i forgot..busas are slow!! lol and that guy was too fat to ride that busa.. lol
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posted January 03, 2012 04:31 PM
The "fair" race is one that both sides agree to...
At the same time, you have to laugh at some of the handicaps...
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posted January 03, 2012 04:35 PM
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The "fair" race is one that both sides agree to...
At the same time, you have to laugh at some of the handicaps...
Shane
ain't them handicaps the same as bracket racing.. i mean like i run 9.0's and you run 8.50's i need 6 bikes ...
to me heads up is line them up tree comes down.. go
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