posted December 01, 2011 03:08 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 1 Dec 2011 23:09
quote:just research japanese tax rates, u might understand how JAPAN ,
has a high speed rail, nuclear , wind, solar energy, health care, and the whole country is union every 1
hate to say if but if AMERICA had all the shit that has happened to japan the last couple years
WOOOO we would b so fucked!! so fucked!
we r allready n deep deep shit, my wife and i make 45,000dol a year and raise 5 yes 5 teenage girls
yes we r broke as hell receive no food stamps or medicaid for r girls
thats fine we dont need help from the government BUT the government DOES NEED HELP from every american !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i will GLADLY pay 1 or 2 percent more in taxes thats 450dol to 900dol a year, yes it would hurt us
BUT im fine with that if it helps AMERICA , so my kids and grand kids can prosper in the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
every heard of JFK???? ""its not what my country can do for me BUT""" u know the rest
research the tax rates back then!!! back then ur wife could stay home with the kids, union were stroung
and GM FORD and on and on were doing great, INSANE doesn't take a account to balance a budget
send LESS pay MORE simple, but GREED is going to ruin the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
if you" think" for 1 second that paying more will help them balance a budget your a moron ..for the last 100 years its the more they take the more they spend . paying more ain't gonna fix nothing .. they will just spend it on a "NEW GOVERNMENT PROGRAM"
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posted December 01, 2011 03:35 PM
We build a 4 cyl. double overhead cam twin turbo diesel in an SUV that gets 41 MPH. the US won't allow us to sell it in the States.
posted December 01, 2011 03:57 PM
SORRY not tryn to ruffle any feathers this is not the forum for that , unless were trashn busa guys
were u sleeping thru 2000 to 2008, that MORON SPENT MORE STARTED NEW PROGRAMS , CUT TAXES
that might b good if u wnt re-elected but not to run a country
if u look at the stats thru 2000 to 2008, YES ONLY A MORON would want to repeat the same mistakes INCLUDING NEW PROGRAMS
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posted December 01, 2011 04:37 PM
Funny how 90% of all American cars on the other side of the ocean are all diesels yet you can't find one here. Obviously 1badzx12r you have never left the USA, so no point in arguing with you. The only way things will change is when Chinese labour prices reach america standards, until then CEO's need there $100 million salaries. Even Japs will suffer soon enough as chinese cars and motorcycles start eventually entering the USA for a 1/3 less as you already see them starting.
posted December 01, 2011 05:00 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 2 Dec 2011 01:04
quote: Obviously 1badzx12r you have never left the USA, so no point in arguing with you. .
NO but i've owned the imported junk ..
BUT HAVE YOU EVER run a farm or a cattle operation ... i ain't talking about a 5 acre weekend getaway..but a 5000 acre corn field or haul 30 head of 800lb beef in a single trailer to market
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posted December 01, 2011 05:11 PM
That's exactly right blueLIGHTning. The Japanese (just like the Germans) are well aware of the manufacturing and cheap-labour juggernaught that is China, which is only beginning to get traction in some of these markets. Sure we will all laugh at their early attempts to break into new markets like sports bikes and the like, but don't think for a second that they won't keep using their enormous labour and financial resources to continue developing and refining their products which will very rapidly equal and likely surpass what we currently have on offer, all for a fraction of the price.
What I'm basically saying is that before too long, China will be quite able to produce super-cars that are equivalent (if not superior) to the likes of Ferrari and Lamborghini for the price of a Hyundai. Or even a sportsbike that simply crushes the ZX-14R for the price of a 50cc scoter - I mean who's not going to buy one of those?
In the mean time any company/country producing a product such as a motorbike or motor vehicle will eventually be unable to compete with China in terms of cost & volume, so instead they must compete (and win) in terms of technology, quality and perhaps above all the after sales service and support of their products. Failing this they may as well all pack up and and sell right now before losing a serious amount of money.
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quote:Funny how 90% of all American cars on the other side of the ocean are all diesels yet you can't find one here. Obviously 1badzx12r you have never left the USA, so no point in arguing with you. The only way things will change is when Chinese labour prices reach america standards, until then CEO's need there $100 million salaries. Even Japs will suffer soon enough as chinese cars and motorcycles start eventually entering the USA for a 1/3 less as you already see them starting.[/quo
posted December 01, 2011 05:51 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 2 Dec 2011 01:53
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quote:Funny how 90% of all American cars on the other side of the ocean are all diesels yet you can't find one here. Obviously 1badzx12r you have never left the USA, so no point in arguing with you. The only way things will change is when Chinese labour prices reach america standards, until then CEO's need there $100 million salaries. Even Japs will suffer soon enough as chinese cars and motorcycles start eventually entering the USA for a 1/3 less as you already see them starting.[/quo
posted December 01, 2011 06:05 PM
Edited By: shawnski on 2 Dec 2011 02:06
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quote:
quote:Funny how 90% of all American cars on the other side of the ocean are all diesels yet you can't find one here. Obviously 1badzx12r you have never left the USA, so no point in arguing with you. The only way things will change is when Chinese labour prices reach america standards, until then CEO's need there $100 million salaries. Even Japs will suffer soon enough as chinese cars and motorcycles start eventually entering the USA for a 1/3 less as you already see them starting.[/quo
Hyosung 1400rr LOL
hope you nutts buy the extended warranty
5 years 60k miles front to tail warranty and 100k miles powertrain warranty... that should do it!!
posted December 02, 2011 12:00 AM
What makes you think America doesn't (in part) build the 14? Manufacturing, vehicles especially, are so incredibly globalized these days, calling a particular brand X or Y nationality borders on pointless. Car parts are designed and built in other countries, materials come from yet other countries, design houses are contracted to do work, R&D or at least testing is done in multiple countries. I'm not quite as tight in the loop as fish but I do know that as of a couple years ago alot of testing was done in Cali and feedback/recommendations for fixes sent back to Japan (I have no reason to think that has changed since). Honda owned their own private massive track and test facility. The bikes are assembled in Japan sure (I suppose demand just isn't high enough to justify making local plants like for cars). But I wouldn't be at all surprised if Kawi has American peeps working in Japan on R&D too.
posted December 02, 2011 12:01 AM
And yes I know I'm stretching the original point a little, but it is a subject that bugs me because globalization has made national commercial identities very suspect.
posted December 02, 2011 06:01 AM
The sad point about all this is, years ago you left high school and if you didn't want to go to college you could get a decent job in a factory to raise your family and still make a good buck. Today all that is left is walmart or starbucks. China is already the number #1 car maker in the world, and if it wasn't for government owning GM that to would be gone. Nevermind the fact China couldn't give a shit about patent laws and since everyone needs china for cheap labor and funding world debt nobody wants to offend them.
1badzx12r I've owned and still own a '92 and 2003 Dodge diesel, had a ford 6.9 and 7.4 and also a chev diesel to pull backhoe and bobcats. The old '92 by far has been the best the rest, have been garbage with transmission problems, injectors that never even made it to a 100,000 miles and you know how cheap those are!!!! The only good transmission was the standard which you can't even get anymore.
Lets face facts cars are made to break down or else companies would all be bankrupt, its not the sales that keeps them alive its the service and parts.
posted December 02, 2011 04:27 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 3 Dec 2011 00:30
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1badzx12r I've owned and still own a '92 and 2003 Dodge diesel, had a ford 6.9 and 7.4 and also a chev diesel to pull backhoe and bobcats. The old '92 by far has been the best the rest, have been garbage with transmission problems, injectors that never even made it to a 100,000 miles and you know how cheap those are!!!! The only good transmission was the standard which you can't even get anymore.
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You can say what you want about american brand trucks
BUT
how often you see a 20 year old chinese car on the road ..LOL
1badzx12r I've owned and still own a '92 and 2003 Dodge diesel, had a ford 6.9 and 7.4 and also a chev diesel to pull backhoe and bobcats. The old '92 by far has been the best the rest, have been garbage with transmission problems, injectors that never even made it to a 100,000 miles and you know how cheap those are!!!! The only good transmission was the standard which you can't even get anymore.
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You can say what you want about american brand trucks
BUT
how often you see a 20 year old chinese car on the road ..LOL
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