FearsomeKawasaki
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posted November 29, 2011 09:21 AM
Unless I've missed something but why is this bad news?
I'd say it was good news as if it's like the Gen 1 there's even more power in this monster than we thought.
  
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Wheelie
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posted November 29, 2011 09:59 AM
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Unless I've missed something but why is this bad news?
I'd say it was good news as if it's like the Gen 1 there's even more power in this monster than we thought.
Bad news cause it will be harder to race.
wee
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posted November 29, 2011 01:10 PM
got em pulled, WOW, it's still om the stand but it rev's so much faster. Make sure the engine is hot before attempting this, screws are soft so make firm very very slight turns.
wee
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garth285
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posted November 29, 2011 01:17 PM
 Edited By: garth285 on 29 Nov 2011 21:18
hey man, if you contact Guhl motors he will flash your ECU for free to remove any restrictions they have put on them, he hasent been able to get a hold of a 2012 ECU yet so im sure if you contact him he will hook it up.
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posted November 29, 2011 01:20 PM
Wonder how lean its getting?
Keep up the work Wee, this is exciting stuff 
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posted November 29, 2011 01:26 PM
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Wonder how lean its getting?
Keep up the work Wee, this is exciting stuff
Trying to find the wires to hook up the data logger right now, when I was letting the bike warm up to remove the secondaries I looked at the headpipes and they were glowing red.
wee
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posted November 29, 2011 01:31 PM
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when I was letting the bike warm up to remove the secondaries I looked at the headpipes and they were glowing red.
wee
its amazing how cherry red them head pipes will get ..
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posted November 29, 2011 01:34 PM
I was watching the secondaries while revving wot, they open but slow, the 14r is very powerful with them in so it's "not" necessary to remove them , most of you will be happy with the stock acceleration, I just want every bit I can get.
wee
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ZX14Mike
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posted November 29, 2011 02:41 PM
Have you ridden it yet without the flies?.................how noticable a difference is it?...................................cant be anywhere close to pulling the flies in 2006?, that was a HUGE difference!!!
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kaw now
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posted November 29, 2011 03:21 PM
If you're revving hhe bike in nuetral and looking at the secondaries open that probably isn't a valid way to gauge how they work while riding the bike. The ecu must have a map for all the gears and various speed and load conditions that can't be duplicated standing still. But I guess you'll find out how it runs w/o them.
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kawboy81
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posted November 29, 2011 03:36 PM
This is a very good thing. Very good!!! Let us know your findings. As he ^ said. Were you in gear at 7k? Or just in neutral? That could def affect whether or not it opens
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posted November 29, 2011 03:44 PM
should I install them again and check?
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CajunBoyz
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posted November 29, 2011 05:03 PM
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should I install them again and check?
wee
Hehehehehe
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redlinejoes
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posted November 30, 2011 06:29 AM
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I have it on full power.
wee
She's giving it all shes got capt'n!!
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blackbullet76
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posted November 30, 2011 07:48 AM
Maybe strap it to a dyno and crack the throttle wide open with the tank lifted up and access covers removed so you can view how the secondaries operate in each gear...just a thought.
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posted November 30, 2011 07:58 AM
Just pull the damn things out and see what happens ... With a 70 inch arm you have nothing to worry about ..
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posted November 30, 2011 08:05 AM
Edited By: RICH CRAFT 1 on 30 Nov 2011 16:07
I never like the ideal of someone else, having control over my throttle position! even if they do come in quicker than the older models? for me that's not quick enough, it probably won't show up at short wheelbase but when wee put a swing arm on it and hits the throttle wide open, do you want it to come in now are a couple of tents later. for those of you that drag race, I think you know the answer to that. The real problem right now is , when will power Cmdr offer the new box? it seems like we had this problem when the 08 come out, and brocks use a ZX 10 power Cmdr, does that sound familiar . Thanks Brock. I don't know why PC is so quick to move on the ZX 10. But when it comes to the 14 they don't seem to be in any hurry? maybe Brock's will offer a repen ZX10 like they did for the roaring toys bike so people don't have to wait six months on PC.
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posted December 01, 2011 02:53 PM
took a ride with the secondaries removed, what a beast, spins the tire where it didn't the other day, I only did a couple of roll on's in first gear , I was able to go wide open in first, it's stupid fast, a/f was about 13.2 at wot, cruising it's about 15.5, no pc, I didn't redline first but was close.
I don't recommend removing the secondaries for everyone, but the guys wanting extra punch at low rpm do it.
wee
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posted December 01, 2011 03:07 PM
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took a ride with the secondaries removed, what a beast, spins the tire where it didn't the other day, I only did a couple of roll on's in first gear , I was able to go wide open in first, it's stupid fast, a/f was about 13.2 at wot, cruising it's about 15.5, no pc, I didn't redline first but was close.
I don't recommend removing the secondaries for everyone, but the guys wanting extra punch at low rpm do it.
wee
told you ..
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posted December 01, 2011 03:11 PM
Brock will have a flys out race map soon just like he did in 06 ..This is going to make this bike one nasty bitch .... IF you add some wheel base you may be able to handle it
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posted December 01, 2011 03:19 PM
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Brock will have a flys out race map soon just like he did in 06 ..This is going to make this bike one nasty bitch .... IF you add some wheel base you may be able to handle it
AlumiPro will be finished next week, getting close to track time. Supposed to rain here in Dallas the next 5 days hehe
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posted December 01, 2011 03:32 PM
Do you have the air shifter installed??? What wheel base will you be at???
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posted December 01, 2011 03:34 PM
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Do you have the air shifter installed??? What wheel base will you be at???
it will be 69-70", ram/solenoid and line installed, MPS box is not, I don't know which wires go to the coils.
wee
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CajunBoyz
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posted December 01, 2011 03:36 PM
What rear gear is that you'll be running?? This "BEAST" should have alot of torque to pull.
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posted December 01, 2011 03:38 PM
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What rear gear is that you'll be running?? This "BEAST" should have alot of torque to pull.
Five One
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