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posted November 21, 2011 08:49 AM
Brocks Pipe 14r "Whizbang"
Brock, didn't get much answered calling, your new Whizbang pipe as Lucky14 calls it will be ready in 3-4 weeks according to your staff, they don't know much about it, was told it will have spacers for shimming so no hammer required. I want to know about pipe diameter, will the Whizbang have the same headpipe diameter as a CT? are you still waiting for people to order before you have them made?
wee
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Lucky14

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posted November 21, 2011 11:32 AM
From the video where Brock was interviewed:
"We modified one of our old exhaust systems to fit it."
"Bob was good about giving me enough dimensions so we could bend, sort of finagle one of my old exhausts from the earlier ZX-14's .................."
"I need to go back to the drawing board and redesign an exhaust that matches this engine (not gonna happen anytime soon)."
"We'll have something that fits in about 3 weeks (for people that just have to have something to replace the big, ugly exhausts now).
It doesn't sound like to me that you just throw on an old exhaust and space out the radiator a 1/4 inch...........
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posted November 21, 2011 11:38 AM
I should have bought Bentlys smeg and used a hammer
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Bently
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posted November 21, 2011 11:53 AM
quote: I should have bought Bentlys smeg and used a hammer
wee
Yup! that's about all it will be.
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posted November 21, 2011 12:08 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 21 Nov 2011 20:47
I don't think Brock is coming here to post anymore .. SO i will answer this question ... The Smeg will fit by spacing the Rad out a 1/4 of an inch on the lower bracket ..
The other thing is the spigots that go into the port ... The new head is 70 thou larger exhaust port than the old head .. . The old pipe will bolt up but there will be a little bit of the pipe in the flow path .. I guess you could order the new larger spigots and then expand your Gen 1 smeg head pipes to fit the new spigots .. I asked Brock about doing this and he said it would work .. I did not ask Brock if he would sell just the larger spigots but i took it that he would because he was telling me about it ..
Best bet is to call Brock and ask him about buying the new spigots ... I'm going to try the pipe as is , hell it has to be better than the factory headers ..
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posted November 21, 2011 02:21 PM
so with a correct "Whizbang" pipe the 14r will make more hp than what Brock posted.
wee
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posted November 21, 2011 02:34 PM
quote: so with a correct "Whizbang" pipe the 14r will make more hp than what Brock posted.
wee
It should make more ... Don't ask me how much ..
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posted November 21, 2011 02:35 PM
quote:
quote: so with a correct "Whizbang" pipe the 14r will make more hp than what Brock posted.
wee
It should make more ... Don't ask me how much ..
I wouldn't expect much but any is a good thing.
wee
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fullzx12r

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posted November 25, 2011 08:31 AM
i see that 2006 - 2012 .... : http://www.brocksperformance.com/Kawasaki-ZX-14+C133.aspx
so..... exhaust from zx-14 2006-2011 ................ are the same to put on the new ZX-14R ???
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kawa74

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posted November 25, 2011 11:57 AM
Everybody wanting to open up the exhaust, bigger, better, whizbang . What about the TB's, same 44's on 1441cc, must need bigger TB's ??? Flow more out, need more flow in , can we say restriction.
Didn't Jim say 5 to 8 hp gain 47's vs 44's on 1352 cc stock motor.
14-r =1441cc, with polished ports, bigger ex ports, bigger cam, 89cc more got to need more TB flow ?? 8, 10 12 HP or more ??? Big o honking air pump, let it breath
10r-1000cc has 47 TB's feeding = 250cc per - 31mm intake V's - .409 cam
14r-1441cc has 44 TB's feeding = 360.29cc per - 33mm - intake V's-.366 cam
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JZX

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posted November 25, 2011 12:05 PM
Wee, run your bike over to Sabin and have jim do a few dyno pulls with the m14
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posted November 25, 2011 01:18 PM
quote: Wee, run your bike over to Sabin and have jim do a few dyno pulls with the m14
it's only got 15 miles on it and the break in oil is still in it, needs 50 miles and an oil change before I will hold it on red
wee
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