03SGBUSA
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posted November 25, 2011 03:45 PM
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quote: yall keep living the dream!!!
we are living it, you need to wake up from your dream lol
wee
yeah!!! yall keep trying to come up with shit to stump reality. Dream world brother!!! Every post is someone pulling shit out of their ass..not real facts because like mike says no one here really knows since no one has had any seat time on the zx14 but yall know!! pssssft!!!
Yall are makng guesses about a bike no one has ridden based on the old version period!!! Im providing shit already proven but yall are to brand loyal to hear it!!! Hey lets get hung on dyno numbers LOL!!!
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Wheelie

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posted November 25, 2011 03:49 PM
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quote:
quote: yall keep living the dream!!!
we are living it, you need to wake up from your dream lol
wee
yeah!!! yall keep trying to come up with shit to stump reality. Dream world brother!!! Every post is someone pulling shit out of their ass..not real facts because like mike says no one here really knows since no one has had any seat time on the zx14 but yall know!! pssssft!!!
Yall are makng guesses about a bike no one has ridden based on the old version period!!! Im providing shit already proven but yall are to brand loyal to hear it!!! Hey lets get hung on dyno numbers LOL!!!
I had an 08 Booza my friend, brand loyal? Keep doing what you do best.
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03SGBUSA
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posted November 25, 2011 03:52 PM
quote: The point I am making is if you don' t have the skills or experience to lay down the numbers, you damn sure don' t have the intelligance to post about these motorcycles when it comes to drag racing.
Your mouth is running- but your bike isn't..
Something to think about..
WTF?
Thats the dumbest shit I have ever heard? You own a gen 1 zx14 not a new one so where do you come off as intelligent about a gen 2?
Because you have had your bike longer with more time to mod makes you what?
You havent provided anything to back anything the rest of the zx14r swingers have said. No one here can because no one has one!! Yall are basing your shit off some bs videos that were posted up.
We will see what the ALMIGHT 14R doesnt in reality in time!!
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JZX

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posted November 25, 2011 04:05 PM
Edited By: JZX on 26 Nov 2011 00:07
It's the dumbest shit you ever heard? You should record yourself and play it back- maybe you will retract that statement.
This is where experience comes in, and how I base "my shit" , the 1441 stroked ZX14R. Having owned and ridden big bore kitted bikes, 12's, busas's , 1340 old school GS. You add 4mm stroke to a gen 1 ZX14 with a better head- it' s going to put down 20-30 more hp to the tire. You have to be a complete "TARD" to even think Kawasaki with it's vast engineering methods and experience would bring out a stroked machine that wouldn' t out power and flat out blow away the Gen 2 Busa.
But this is where you lack the knowledge, which to me and most of the guys on here consider it common sense.
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1badzx12r
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posted November 25, 2011 05:07 PM
quote: They all break if you run them enough, the Busa is just the cheapest one to build.
thats not what Barry Hansen sayz.. quote Busas don't blow up ..
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ZX14Mike
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posted November 25, 2011 05:43 PM
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quote:
quote: yall keep living the dream!!!
we are living it, you need to wake up from your dream lol
wee
yeah!!! yall keep trying to come up with shit to stump reality. Dream world brother!!! Every post is someone pulling shit out of their ass..not real facts because like mike says no one here really knows since no one has had any seat time on the zx14 but yall know!! pssssft!!!
Yall are makng guesses about a bike no one has ridden based on the old version period!!! Im providing shit already proven but yall are to brand loyal to hear it!!! Hey lets get hung on dyno numbers LOL!!!
Seems like YOUR the assclown making the "GUESSES" little troll...............I could care less about the video you are refering to little man...........its the 20 EXTRA horsepower say day same dyno over a Gen 2 Busa that I'm focused on so far...........course i'm REALLY looking for same day comparisons at the dragstrip with the Gen 2 Busa and Gen 1 ZX 14.
But to sum things up..................ONLY a fool could think 20 extra horsepower makes a bike slower...................I guess the laws of physics work different for Busa trolls
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Big_T112

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posted November 25, 2011 05:44 PM
Yea..Yea they do. I got a couple of spare Busa engines with spun bearings. Also one with a hole in the front of the case big enough to stick your fist through. I also have a complete ZX14 motor with a spun rod bearing plus several more brands of engines out in the junk pile. I remember burning up the #3 rod on my old ZX11 D model several times untill I finally got one of those Modified oilpans from Mr. Turbo and that fixed it. Back then The GSXR1100 was supposed to be fast. I had a 6" over swingarm, K&N filter and a jet kit with one of those Muzzy 4 into 1 pipes that came out on the left side of the bike (made more HP than the one with the hard bend that came out on the right) on my ZX11 and kicked some GSXR1100 ass back then. It's just like 1984 again with the GPz900 Ninja. I took delivery of mine, put a Murray 4 into 1, shit canned the airbox and jetted it with some Pod filters and was kicking ass. Kawasaki did it again in 1998 with the ZX9R ninja. It went a 9.98 with RG riding it. I was at the Prostar event when he did it. Great bike too. I agree the new ZX14R should be the king and I want one. Remember when Honda hyped the Blackbird CBR1100 XX.? I ran out of site on a top speed run from one of those on my ZX11D. Maybe Yamaha could bring back a new faster version of the FJ1200? With the economy down companys still have to stay aggressive. Where I work we are launching 3 new models and spending big money on R&D. You always have to be moving forward. The new ZX14R going to be the new king stock, I don't see Suzuki doing anything major to the Busa unless they increase the bore. An advantage it does have is the 8 injectors and it responds well to a pipe and some tunning. I am not going to leave my stuff stock anyway so it does not really matter to me. I will be out there in the trenches with my 00 Busa trying to make it go fast. It's all about fun for me, But I will wager a race now and then
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ZX14Mike
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posted November 25, 2011 05:44 PM
Edited By: ZX14Mike on 26 Nov 2011 01:44
Please enlighten us as to how 20 extra horsepower equals a slower bike............i'm all ears little man!!!
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JZX

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posted November 25, 2011 05:57 PM
BigT112, you have any good cases for a zx14 layin around?
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Big_T112

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posted November 25, 2011 06:24 PM
I got the 07 motor complete but I was going to put it back together to sell running. that's all I have left of my ZX14 stuff right now.
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1badzx12r
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posted November 25, 2011 06:31 PM
quote: Yea..Yea they do. I got a couple of spare Busa engines with spun bearings. Also one with a hole in the front of the case big enough to stick your fist through.
well you ain't Barry Hansen .. so call him and tell him ..
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Big_T112

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posted November 25, 2011 06:40 PM
No way, I have paid out way to much money to him already. My first stage 2 Velocity kit never was tuned right by him. I drove all the way from Alabama to the Ohio to the Motorhead to have that bike tuned back then. That's back Before Seb and NLR moved to Alabama. Dennis was a little quirky but the bike rode like a stock one when he was done.
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madnessracing

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posted November 25, 2011 06:43 PM
quote: BigT112, you have any good cases for a zx14 layin around?
I have a good case for sale!
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codyc_13

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posted November 25, 2011 08:20 PM
I don't think this 03SGBUSA guy realizes how stupid he sounds.....
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03SGBUSA
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posted November 26, 2011 01:53 AM
Edited By: 03SGBUSA on 26 Nov 2011 09:57
quote: It's the dumbest shit you ever heard? You should record yourself and play it back- maybe you will retract that statement.
This is where experience comes in, and how I base "my shit" , the 1441 stroked ZX14R. Having owned and ridden big bore kitted bikes, 12's, busas's , 1340 old school GS. You add 4mm stroke to a gen 1 ZX14 with a better head- it' s going to put down 20-30 more hp to the tire. You have to be a complete "TARD" to even think Kawasaki with it's vast engineering methods and experience would bring out a stroked machine that wouldn' t out power and flat out blow away the Gen 2 Busa.
But this is where you lack the knowledge, which to me and most of the guys on here consider it common sense.
Thats your knowledge LOL!!! seriously?
Now your a kawa rep lol!! Look genius if kawa was looking to blow the competition away then they wouldnt have stopped with some weak ass 1430cc motor making barely 190whp. Sorry to let the wind out of your sales.
Can wait to see the average dynoed ZX14. mike wants to know about dyno numbers lol!! Yeah mike its called all bike dyno different genius!!! Maybe you should research alittle. But it would do you know good scene your blinded with zx14 crap instead of the big picture.
Its simple!! kawa aint gonna do a video with a good running gen 2. Gen 2's have dynoed stock much higher then 160whp. I just watched a gen 1 dyno 161whp less then a week ago. Gen 2's post faster et/mph then some weak ass 10.11@142. You would know that if you had a clue about any other bike but a zx14. But yeah that ONE gen2 made 160whp and rickey couldnt get it down the track lol!! yeah that counts lol... that means all gen 2's are the same... Go on with that bullshit!!
Yall over here beating your chest because a 1430cc made 190whp. Maybe thats impressive numbers from a 14.... I have seen cam only gen 1 busas make more.. pump gas cam only. I have also seen 1397's clear 200whp with nothing.
Bet you think the zx14 is all choked up too... well according to mister brock with a pc,pipe and mr12 it barely cleared 200whp. Damn thats bmw numbers right there lol!! dont sound like much room to grow there............... Well considering most bikes gain that with just exhaust.
Yall keep tooting your horn..... If you think that a gen 2 will only make 160whp then you need to get out alittle more. If you think that a gen 1 guy like myself is scared of the zx14r......yeah ok... if that lets you sleep at night... I have watched 1441cc busas make well into the 230-240 plus whp range without big massive cams. Busas dont have the heavy curb weight either. 540 vs 583! I have nothing to fear. if my track becomes over run with zx14r's then ill be rocking a 1441cc. Aint nothing but a thing.
Kawa is doing what they have always done. Just made the bike reliable. wont be the fastest or the slowest but it will stay together.
I love how things get all side tracked!!
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Wheelie

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posted November 26, 2011 02:59 AM
move on Troll Boy
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Bently
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posted November 26, 2011 04:01 AM
quote:
quote: It's the dumbest shit you ever heard? You should record yourself and play it back- maybe you will retract that statement.
This is where experience comes in, and how I base "my shit" , the 1441 stroked ZX14R. Having owned and ridden big bore kitted bikes, 12's, busas's , 1340 old school GS. You add 4mm stroke to a gen 1 ZX14 with a better head- it' s going to put down 20-30 more hp to the tire. You have to be a complete "TARD" to even think Kawasaki with it's vast engineering methods and experience would bring out a stroked machine that wouldn' t out power and flat out blow away the Gen 2 Busa.
But this is where you lack the knowledge, which to me and most of the guys on here consider it common sense.
Thats your knowledge LOL!!! seriously?
Now your a kawa rep lol!! Look genius if kawa was looking to blow the competition away then they wouldnt have stopped with some weak ass 1430cc motor making barely 190whp. Sorry to let the wind out of your sales.
Can wait to see the average dynoed ZX14. mike wants to know about dyno numbers lol!! Yeah mike its called all bike dyno different genius!!! Maybe you should research alittle. But it would do you know good scene your blinded with zx14 crap instead of the big picture.
Its simple!! kawa aint gonna do a video with a good running gen 2. Gen 2's have dynoed stock much higher then 160whp. I just watched a gen 1 dyno 161whp less then a week ago. Gen 2's post faster et/mph then some weak ass 10.11@142. You would know that if you had a clue about any other bike but a zx14. But yeah that ONE gen2 made 160whp and rickey couldnt get it down the track lol!! yeah that counts lol... that means all gen 2's are the same... Go on with that bullshit!!
Yall over here beating your chest because a 1430cc made 190whp. Maybe thats impressive numbers from a 14.... I have seen cam only gen 1 busas make more.. pump gas cam only. I have also seen 1397's clear 200whp with nothing.
Bet you think the zx14 is all choked up too... well according to mister brock with a pc,pipe and mr12 it barely cleared 200whp. Damn thats bmw numbers right there lol!! dont sound like much room to grow there............... Well considering most bikes gain that with just exhaust.
Yall keep tooting your horn..... If you think that a gen 2 will only make 160whp then you need to get out alittle more. If you think that a gen 1 guy like myself is scared of the zx14r......yeah ok... if that lets you sleep at night... I have watched 1441cc busas make well into the 230-240 plus whp range without big massive cams. Busas dont have the heavy curb weight either. 540 vs 583! I have nothing to fear. if my track becomes over run with zx14r's then ill be rocking a 1441cc. Aint nothing but a thing.
Kawa is doing what they have always done. Just made the bike reliable. wont be the fastest or the slowest but it will stay together.
I love how things get all side tracked!!
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Do you have a rock solid clutch in your bike?
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eklipse636

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posted November 26, 2011 04:20 AM
Bently, he's too smart for that clutch, he designed his own.
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shawnski

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posted November 26, 2011 04:51 AM
Edited By: shawnski on 26 Nov 2011 13:09
Hey busa boy you still did not answer my question why busa has not come up with 230 HP bike yet???
You just have no clue what involves for manufactures to built 230 + HP STREET LEGAL BIKE...
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codyc_13

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posted November 26, 2011 08:56 AM
03SGBUSA, when was the last time someone jumped the horsepower race 20hp? I'm not even sure zuk did that in 99. So you can stick with your busa that's down 20 hp... Just don't get your panties in a wad when you can't keep up. Ok I'm done feeding the troll.
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KAWITOM
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posted November 26, 2011 09:22 AM
I've been reading this whole thing and one of the things that the busa guy keeps bringing up is that the new 14r needed more cc's to be better. Let's go back to 2000 when the ZX-12 was brought out. All I heard was how awesome the busa was, seem tome there was some cc difference there. hmmmmm
I had a zx12 and my friend had 2000 busa, with same bolt ons and we were about the same weight, it was always who had the better launch won at the track, but on the open road I always went right around him on top end "always"
I kept that bike for 11 years and just recently sold it for the new 14r, I have raced many busa's of many configurations and they are also fast bikes, I never was able to get that bike in the eight's myself, I wiegh too much(260's unsuited). But I honestly believe I will have no troulbles with bolt-ons and a small shot to run eight's with an untouched internals motor. That in itself is enough for me to buy this bike.
Now if we want to talk mods, with new bike I am sure the water jackets are bigger, the radiator is bigger, so since it is already stroked a decent amount lets do a big bore kit, yea I know pain in the ass cause of the monoblock setup. But what are we talking 15?? possible and be a streetable motor. I don't know what the hp and torque would be. But I would think that they would be pretty awesome.
03GBUSA The busa's are not without their own flaws mechanical and bodywork. Thats great that you think your gen 1 is the best looking bike to you, and everyones opinion is going to be different. But I did not see one post of anybody knocking the busa about it's looks, but I did see you starting the bashing.
So I guess I am trying to say if you want to be taken serious, be a little more intelligent with what you say, to most people you look like a BUSA diehard, who came on to a ZX-14 forum to be a jackass and stir the pot
This new bike with and average weight rider, 170's to 200's with basic bolt ons (arm, shifter, small shot, pipe and power commander and STOCK INTERNAL MOTOR are going to running low 8's and you won't have to be a RG,JT or your Brandon M to run those numbers. A heavy hitter like myself will be able to be competitive in 8.90's, crazyeights type index without having to dig into the motor, with a second gen busa I think i could do it but it be harder.
So good luck with your adventures, but you had to be kidding yourself when you came to zx14 forum and talking smack, that would like me going to hayabusa.org and talking smack that wouldn't go over to well.
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Lacker 14
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posted November 26, 2011 09:25 AM
This guy is to worked up....I have owned 3 Busas...and have a 14R on order.Who cares..really. Besides the upgrade in power the new 14 is a better all around bike. Some of his comments I can't even respond because they are so whacked! Cheers to my 14 brother's....And this is coming from a Busa BOY!!
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JZX

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posted November 26, 2011 09:28 AM
I love it- keep it coming ;-)
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KAWITOM
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posted November 26, 2011 09:50 AM
Aslo, 03GBUSA I had a an 03 limited edition with a stage 2 turbo setup and built motor it was fun but the motor blew at the last race, don't want to spend all that money for a rebuild. It was built right and had top of the line parts on it and I won't miss paying 15.00 a gallon for gas to race. So I have had both Kawi's and Suzuk's
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justoyz2

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posted November 26, 2011 10:09 AM
wow 9 pages......
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