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posted October 14, 2011 02:50 AM
I Don't Know What to Believe
Im going to announce this for everyone to hear.............THE NEW BIKE HAS A CLAIMED 210HP to the crank, and again I am stating that I BELIEVE that this NUMBER IS understated! I have the most experience of any civilian on the planet at twisting the throttle on the 2012 and it feels like 20 to 25hp more than last years 14 and will run .3 tenths faster and 5 mph in 1/4 mile at stock height and stock exhaust......
Is that enough 14 fans??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44xCj9RArhQ
If I read this and then watch the videos clearly it's not true, an amature on a Gen I zx14 running right beside a pro on a Gen II zx14, then we are told the new 14 will run 3 tenths quicker and 5 mph faster the the Gen I, uhhh something is wrong here. I want the new 14 to be what RG says but I see otherwise,
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Ricksgsxr
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posted October 14, 2011 03:47 AM
Won't be long before a regular Joe gets one, adds a pipe, gears it the usual mods and runs 8.x give it a chance geez...
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Lucky14
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posted October 14, 2011 03:58 AM
It doesn't actually show the run, so you have to listen near the end where Kevin says ".....he neglected to record my 9.78 second pass .........."
To be fair, Kevin Duke may be an amateur drag racer, but he is not an amateur rider.
I'm hopeful, but still cautiously optimistic at this point.
3 tenths and 5 mph is HUGE!
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Lucky14
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posted October 14, 2011 04:02 AM
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Won't be long before a regular Joe gets one, adds a pipe, gears it the usual mods and runs 8.x give it a chance geez...
Uh, that was true of the "old" 14 ...................
You're missing the point of the stock-to-stock comparison as that's all we have to go on now.
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kaw-rick
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posted October 14, 2011 04:29 AM
I know what you are saying. only 9.7s? shit i ran a 10.06 0n a 05 zx10 with 2 miles on it. ran 10.05 on my zx14 right from the showroom. im 220 lbs and cant even ride. I also know the busa can run quicker, the 1st gen was faster than that. calling bullshit on this 1. Ive been waiting on the new 14 to come out, but alot of questions b4 purchase now. 1 thing i do like is the looks.
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 14, 2011 04:42 AM
Do what I'm doing fellas, just sit back and wait...
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MJ
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posted October 14, 2011 05:01 AM
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Do what I'm doing fellas, just sit back and wait...
I agree, time will tell what the new 14's going to perform like in the real world. The thing is kawi doesn't WANT us to wait, they want us to buy........its all about marketing and making money. If we buy first and ask questions later they make more money....we wait and the new bike doesn't quite live up to the hype, then we don't buy and they lose money. So of course they want a money making launch......
Ricky's irritated with us because we're cautious, yet how many times have we been overhyped? And yet this time is supposed to be different?LOL.
This is what happens when you overhype people too many times.....they stop believing
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Famous1
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posted October 14, 2011 05:06 AM
quote:
Im going to announce this for everyone to hear.............THE NEW BIKE HAS A CLAIMED 210HP to the crank, and again I am stating that I BELIEVE that this NUMBER IS understated! I have the most experience of any civilian on the planet at twisting the throttle on the 2012 and it feels like 20 to 25hp more than last years 14 and will run .3 tenths faster and 5 mph in 1/4 mile at stock height and stock exhaust......
Is that enough 14 fans??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44xCj9RArhQ
If I read this and then watch the videos clearly it's not true, an amature on a Gen I zx14 running right beside a pro on a Gen II zx14, then we are told the new 14 will run 3 tenths quicker and 5 mph faster the the Gen I, uhhh something is wrong here. I want the new 14 to be what RG says but I see otherwise,
wee
what...? what do you see? where do you see a generation 1 and 2 running side by side?
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busa08
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posted October 14, 2011 05:27 AM
 Edited By: busa08 on 14 Oct 2011 13:28
quote:
Im going to announce this for everyone to hear.............THE NEW BIKE HAS A CLAIMED 210HP to the crank, and again I am stating that I BELIEVE that this NUMBER IS understated! I have the most experience of any civilian on the planet at twisting the throttle on the 2012 and it feels like 20 to 25hp more than last years 14 and will run .3 tenths faster and 5 mph in 1/4 mile at stock height and stock exhaust......
Is that enough 14 fans??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44xCj9RArhQ
If I read this and then watch the videos clearly it's not true, an amature on a Gen I zx14 running right beside a pro on a Gen II zx14, then we are told the new 14 will run 3 tenths quicker and 5 mph faster the the Gen I, uhhh something is wrong here. I want the new 14 to be what RG says but I see otherwise,
wee
they said: " the older you get...the slower u get.." maybe Rg is getting a little older and a little slower!!! LOL
Time will tell!!
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JZX
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posted October 14, 2011 05:39 AM
Key points to think about.
Kevin Duke is a lightweight which helps mph.
Those people were wearing jackets- it was cold!
The mission was to get the quickest ET out of that bike, with RG coaching.
The new 14R wasnt there that same day enjoying the much better DA the old 14 was.
So you think cooler weather doesnt help?
Stock head my bike ran avg 121mph 8th mile in 90-100 degree temp.
SS head(only 10hp more) ang 124 in temps in the 80's.
Ss head in 60-65 degree weather was hitting 126mph! No other changes.
Clearly on RG's temp guage on the new one you saw 99 degrees and the gen 2 busa was there running slow mph to verify the bad conditions, you think a stock gen1 ZX14 will out mph that Gen 2 busa? No way..
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Best 1/4 mile 8.87@152.7 on a 1.47 60'
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Famous1
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posted October 14, 2011 05:58 AM
Edited By: Famous1 on 14 Oct 2011 13:59
SHORT wheelbase challenge.. piped and tuned zx-14
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busa08
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posted October 14, 2011 06:01 AM
quote:
Key points to think about.
Kevin Duke is a lightweight which helps mph.
Those people were wearing jackets- it was cold!
The mission was to get the quickest ET out of that bike, with RG coaching.
The new 14R wasnt there that same day enjoying the much better DA the old 14 was.
So you think cooler weather doesnt help?
Stock head my bike ran avg 121mph 8th mile in 90-100 degree temp.
SS head(only 10hp more) ang 124 in temps in the 80's.
Ss head in 60-65 degree weather was hitting 126mph! No other changes.
Clearly on RG's temp guage on the new one you saw 99 degrees and the gen 2 busa was there running slow mph to verify the bad conditions, you think a stock gen1 ZX14 will out mph that Gen 2 busa? No way..
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Red1
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posted October 14, 2011 06:06 AM
Let's wait for Brock to do his thing with the typical bolt-on mods that most of us will do. Brock weighs about 200lbs so once he has the mods in place and rides the bike we will have a better idea of what the "average" rider will be looking at.
Just my $.02
Thanks,
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smokinZX14
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posted October 14, 2011 06:28 AM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 14 Oct 2011 14:30
Brock and Dragbike.com on the new zx14
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=6848&z=2
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JZX
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posted October 14, 2011 06:56 AM
Smokin, did you watch Brock interviewing that Kawasaki guy?
Sorry but the interview was making me wanna punch that guy in the head-he didn't seem to sharp or enthusiatic on the new 14 at all. Speak up you ferry-and grow a set of balls...
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 14, 2011 07:21 AM
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Smokin, did you watch Brock interviewing that Kawasaki guy?
Sorry but the interview was making me wanna punch that guy in the head-he didn't seem to sharp or enthusiatic on the new 14 at all. Speak up you ferry-and grow a set of balls...
Talk about tech-NO. That guy must have been a supermarket manager before this gig.
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Wheelie
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posted October 14, 2011 07:56 AM
quote:
Key points to think about.
Kevin Duke is a lightweight which helps mph.
Those people were wearing jackets- it was cold!
The mission was to get the quickest ET out of that bike, with RG coaching.
The new 14R wasnt there that same day enjoying the much better DA the old 14 was.
So you think cooler weather doesnt help?
Stock head my bike ran avg 121mph 8th mile in 90-100 degree temp.
SS head(only 10hp more) ang 124 in temps in the 80's.
Ss head in 60-65 degree weather was hitting 126mph! No other changes.
Clearly on RG's temp guage on the new one you saw 99 degrees and the gen 2 busa was there running slow mph to verify the bad conditions, you think a stock gen1 ZX14 will out mph that Gen 2 busa? No way..
should we wait till the weather is cold and let RG do it again? I've already started buying add ons for my 14r, just hope it turns out good
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JZX
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posted October 14, 2011 08:25 AM
Wee, that Busa running along side the new heavier 14 was a good enuff guage. Numbers at the track are only relevent for comparison the same day-hell, really the minute.. That gen 2 busa was getting WALKED.
BTW, what pipe you buyin' 
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Best 1/8 mile 5.68@126.4 on a 1.41 60'
Best 1/4 mile 8.87@152.7 on a 1.47 60'
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 14, 2011 08:27 AM
Edited By: kawasakijockey on 14 Oct 2011 16:37
Just FYI, the "R" was designated originally for models that were a "replica" of purpose built roadracers, the GPZ900R was the first I can remember seeing with the R. Suzuki defined the R as a replica on the first generation GSXR bikes and stated that it really wasnt a replica but a ride-out racebike from the factory and that "race" is really more definitive . The "RR" of Honda models means "racer replica".
With that said, putting the R designation with a Busa or 14 is "retarded" from a roadracer mindset.
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9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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posted October 14, 2011 09:16 AM
quote:
Wee, that Busa running along side the new heavier 14 was a good enuff guage. Numbers at the track are only relevent for comparison the same day-hell, really the minute.. That gen 2 busa was getting WALKED.
BTW, what pipe you buyin'
Probably get a m10/14 unless I can get a deal on a ct. Wee
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JZX
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posted October 14, 2011 09:19 AM
Nick has a brand new CT green anodized sitting at his shop.
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Best 1/8 mile 5.68@126.4 on a 1.41 60'
Best 1/4 mile 8.87@152.7 on a 1.47 60'
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posted October 14, 2011 09:24 AM
Wee you were flying on your bike and Im sure you will go faster on 2012 model since its 89CCs bigger than the previous one.
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Wheelie
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posted October 14, 2011 12:21 PM
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Wee you were flying on your bike and Im sure you will go faster on 2012 model since its 89CCs bigger than the previous one.
I guess I will spend $14,000 and find out. did I just say $14,000? I don't like what I see but maybe the 14r is just corked up bad so I will try and uncork it.
wee
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MJ
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posted October 15, 2011 01:11 AM
Edited By: MJ on 15 Oct 2011 09:11
Well regardless of how the new bike runs, I think it looks damn good  And I don't see it being any slower than the old one......so at the least you get a stroked motor as a starting point if your a racer, and if not, you still get traction control, more torque and good looks eh?
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posted October 15, 2011 04:10 AM
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quote:
Wee you were flying on your bike and Im sure you will go faster on 2012 model since its 89CCs bigger than the previous one.
I guess I will spend $14,000 and find out. did I just say $14,000? I don't like what I see but maybe the 14r is just corked up bad so I will try and uncork it.
wee
i bet OTD is closer to $17,000.00
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