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posted October 12, 2011 07:46 AM
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There are other possibilities, guys. Ricky is kawasaki's man. I'm not saying KHI built him a 14 with a little extra love, but I wouldn't like to bet lots of money they didn't. But you can be pretty sure Suzuki didn't do him any favours. That's one possibility.
You guys set the bikes up for best performance. In that vid, Ricky set the bikes up to represent exactly how they roll out of the showroom. Of course the numbers are going to be a little different to what you see.
3rd possibility - over years of production, cores move and moulds distort and engines get heavier and less powerful. The best ones are usually the ones made in the first few weeks of production. Like the ZX14R that Ricky is showing - as opposed to the 'busa that was cast about the same time - in moulds that are how old?
And last - without saying Ricky threw the runs on the 'busa -
90% of what you just wrote is bullshit-
what kind of idiot would think a bike with 100cc more would need help?
I swear, roadracing must lead to retardation...
wouldn't you try a little harder to please your boss and make his product look good? It would have to be there in the back of your mind that he was expecting you to.
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busa08
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posted October 12, 2011 08:05 AM
 Edited By: busa08 on 12 Oct 2011 16:13
kawasaki did what they had to do to put zx14 in front of the busa and that is the fact.. more power and torque and i am very sure the traction control has a big factor too. in the video both bikes took off the same time but zx14r had amazing pull at the beginning and that is what put it in the front of busa and pretty much kept the same distance till the end.
like to see some roll ons
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JZX
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posted October 12, 2011 08:33 AM
I don't think a roll race with a busa is fair. If the 14 traps 4-5 mph higher in the 1/4 like it did-the longer the race went the worse its going to get for the busa.. Bottom line, it's not fair anymore.
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Wheelie
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posted October 12, 2011 08:40 AM
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kawasaki did what they had to do to put zx14 in front of the busa and that is the fact.. more power and torque and i am very sure the traction control has a big factor too. in the video both bikes took off the same time but zx14r had amazing pull at the beginning and that is what put it in the front of busa and pretty much kept the same distance till the end.
like to see some roll ons
you think a 2012 zx14 finaly surpassed a booza? what a joke.
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posted October 12, 2011 08:43 AM
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kawasaki did what they had to do to put zx14 in front of the busa and that is the fact.. more power and torque and i am very sure the traction control has a big factor too. in the video both bikes took off the same time but zx14r had amazing pull at the beginning and that is what put it in the front of busa and pretty much kept the same distance till the end.
like to see some roll ons
you think a 2012 zx14 finaly surpassed a booza? what a joke.
wee
didn't the 01 gixxer 1k out ET IT IN LIKE 2001...
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Master
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posted October 12, 2011 01:12 PM
well that gives us a good comparison both bikes are about the same stock.
I know with you riding skill now you would have gone just as fast.
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Audioboyz
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posted October 13, 2011 11:57 AM
I was at a MIROCK event at MRI in July 2 years ago.This guy was riding a stock pipe red ZX-14 and was turrnin consistent 9.74.Must of been a 2006.Don't know if it was stock but stock pipes must be.Could't imaginine anything but maybe headwork or bigbore.But eitherway seemed preety good.Maybe Shane was there.It was a good event.Was asking about RG but dudes who were there said he got married that weekend.Don't know if that was true but it was a good time.
Didn't get there this year but was there last year for a fuel funny car dragster event catered by Outback Steakhouse.Another good time.
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posted October 13, 2011 01:41 PM
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if you read what i wrote above it tells you how many times.. i bet you i have been riding alot longer than you.. you think extending and dropping your bike and drag race makes you an expert on everything? is 223 times enough to be qualified in your book. i bet you i was riding when you were not even born.. i said the busa was harder for me to lunch and you guys are making remarks like that. oh well.. you guys are so good!!
Just going to throw it out there... just because you've been riding a long time doesn't mean you're any good. Some people have it and some don't. I know tons of people who have been riding a long time that can't put a clean pass together to save their life. That being said... I agree with you 100% about the busa being harder to launch, but it's not because of the gearing. Any rider worth their weight in shit can get around the gearing. The problem is the clutch. It's damn near impossible to slide the clutch on the busa in comparison to the 14. It has light switch power.
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Bently
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posted October 13, 2011 02:38 PM
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if you read what i wrote above it tells you how many times.. i bet you i have been riding alot longer than you.. you think extending and dropping your bike and drag race makes you an expert on everything? is 223 times enough to be qualified in your book. i bet you i was riding when you were not even born.. i said the busa was harder for me to lunch and you guys are making remarks like that. oh well.. you guys are so good!!
Just going to throw it out there... just because you've been riding a long time doesn't mean you're any good. Some people have it and some don't. I know tons of people who have been riding a long time that can't put a clean pass together to save their life. That being said... I agree with you 100% about the busa being harder to launch, but it's not because of the gearing. Any rider worth their weight in shit can get around the gearing. The problem is the clutch. It's damn near impossible to slide the clutch on the busa in comparison to the 14. It has light switch power.
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There again maybe for you, but my clutch hand likes the busa better. wheelbase being the same on both I can 60 foot better on the busa, and I have more then a 1000 passes on each.
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posted October 13, 2011 02:44 PM
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if you read what i wrote above it tells you how many times.. i bet you i have been riding alot longer than you.. you think extending and dropping your bike and drag race makes you an expert on everything? is 223 times enough to be qualified in your book. i bet you i was riding when you were not even born.. i said the busa was harder for me to lunch and you guys are making remarks like that. oh well.. you guys are so good!!
Just going to throw it out there... just because you've been riding a long time doesn't mean you're any good. Some people have it and some don't. I know tons of people who have been riding a long time that can't put a clean pass together to save their life. That being said... I agree with you 100% about the busa being harder to launch, but it's not because of the gearing. Any rider worth their weight in shit can get around the gearing. The problem is the clutch. It's damn near impossible to slide the clutch on the busa in comparison to the 14. It has light switch power.
look at RG's pass on the booza, boozas two piece clutch cam is not made for drag racing, RG could run a 9 easy with the clutch cam welded..
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01smokes
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posted October 13, 2011 03:02 PM
Edited By: 01smokes on 13 Oct 2011 23:18
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if you read what i wrote above it tells you how many times.. i bet you i have been riding alot longer than you.. you think extending and dropping your bike and drag race makes you an expert on everything? is 223 times enough to be qualified in your book. i bet you i was riding when you were not even born.. i said the busa was harder for me to lunch and you guys are making remarks like that. oh well.. you guys are so good!!
Just going to throw it out there... just because you've been riding a long time doesn't mean you're any good. Some people have it and some don't. I know tons of people who have been riding a long time that can't put a clean pass together to save their life. That being said... I agree with you 100% about the busa being harder to launch, but it's not because of the gearing. Any rider worth their weight in shit can get around the gearing. The problem is the clutch. It's damn near impossible to slide the clutch on the busa in comparison to the 14. It has light switch power.
Well there's your problem!! Your tryin to slide the clutch like you would on a zx14. A booza is NOT a zx14 so don't try to ride one like a zx14. Lower the RPM on the booza and snap the clutch out let the gear and the tq pull you don't use RPM to do it I launch my booza (when it was SWB) off idle and it would go 1.52 60' like clock work. I now have it at 68" and on motor I've been 1.38 60' and on spray I've gone 1.32 so for me, the booza is quicker in the short times than the 14. Maybe I'm just open minded and ride different than everyone else.
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1badzx12r
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posted October 13, 2011 03:12 PM
maybe i should start making the clutch mod for the zx14.. i know them gen 1 inner hubs are gonna get popular
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Wheelie
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posted October 13, 2011 03:17 PM
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maybe i should start making the clutch mod for the zx14.. i know them gen 1 inner hubs are gonna get popular
if they have a 2 piece clutch cam I will buy it, how much?
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1badzx12r
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posted October 13, 2011 03:25 PM
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maybe i should start making the clutch mod for the zx14.. i know them gen 1 inner hubs are gonna get popular
if they have a 2 piece clutch cam I will buy it, how much?
wee
this is what a concours slipper clutch looks like http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/2008-kawasaki-zg1400a8f-concours-14/o/m17200#sch549489
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busa08
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posted October 13, 2011 03:38 PM
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if you read what i wrote above it tells you how many times.. i bet you i have been riding alot longer than you.. you think extending and dropping your bike and drag race makes you an expert on everything? is 223 times enough to be qualified in your book. i bet you i was riding when you were not even born.. i said the busa was harder for me to lunch and you guys are making remarks like that. oh well.. you guys are so good!!
Just going to throw it out there... just because you've been riding a long time doesn't mean you're any good. Some people have it and some don't. I know tons of people who have been riding a long time that can't put a clean pass together to save their life. That being said... I agree with you 100% about the busa being harder to launch, but it's not because of the gearing. Any rider worth their weight in shit can get around the gearing. The problem is the clutch. It's damn near impossible to slide the clutch on the busa in comparison to the 14. It has light switch power.
Well there's your problem!! Your tryin to slide the clutch like you would on a zx14. A booza is NOT a zx14 so don't try to ride one like a zx14. Lower the RPM on the booza and snap the clutch out let the gear and the tq pull you don't use RPM to do it I launch my booza (when it was SWB) off idle and it would go 1.52 60' like clock work. I now have it at 68" and on motor I've been 1.38 60' and on spray I've gone 1.32 so for me, the booza is quicker in the short times than the 14. Maybe I'm just open minded and ride different than everyone else.
well.. not a problem anymore... i sold the busa recently!! but i see what you are saying.. and i tried to do what you are saying but it wheelies too much.. and the reason i said about different gearing than 1st gen was because it revs faster and it is bad wheelie machine!! it is just like when i had my 06 zx14 i went to 2up rear sprocket and one down in front and with stock hight it was harder to launch but i was be able to balance the throttle and clutch release to overcome that but not very successful with busa!
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posted October 14, 2011 01:41 PM
Edited By: Brock on 14 Oct 2011 21:43
Guys,
I have decided that I'm simply out of touch with how fast we go compared to everyone else:
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I ran 9.60's through the stock exhaust back in 2008 on the Gen 1 Busa. That was lowered with a strap - Richard Gadson ran 9.30's. We had great weather at Atco, so the track was fantastic.
But you guys are talking about crazy slow numbers?! If I don't run 6.0's in the 1/8th, stock wheelbase, foot shifting when I'm at my usual "non-fatboy" weight of around 180 in my shorts--I'm pissed and I go to the track twice a week until I get my shit together and ride right.
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fullzx12r
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posted October 05, 2012 11:21 PM
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posted October 06, 2012 03:52 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 6 Oct 2012 23:54
"crazy slow numbers?!"
Brock don't hold back, tell them how you really feel. lmao!
What's a zee ed 14?
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posted October 06, 2012 07:35 PM
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"crazy slow numbers?!"
Brock don't hold back, tell them how you really feel. lmao!
What's a zee ed 14?
It's English for ZX14 ...
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posted October 07, 2012 07:26 PM
There you have BUSA is faster straight from Brock
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posted November 24, 2012 01:02 AM
http://www.superbike.co.uk/viewers/viewcontent.aspx?contentid=2578&catid=news&subcatid=mainnews&longtitle=SuperBike+December+issue+on+sale+NOW
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