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posted August 16, 2011 01:20 PM
Went to T&T last Thursday night....Dead?
I have been working a lot of overtime lately. But after work last thursday night I took my bike to Test & Tune. There was nobobdy there? It was a perfect afternoon. Not many cars and only a handful of bikes. I wanted to set my lock up clutch to a different setting to get a better 60 ft. I talked with the track worker in the staging lanes and he said attendance is really down this year. I guess High gas prices, excessive heat, and poor economy have hurt the liesure sports. Anyway they are going to hold a really big Bike only grudge fest on Sept. 10th. I hope there is a good turnout. there sure is a lot of BS talking on PB about it. It is new this year and all concrete 1/8th mile.
  
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posted August 16, 2011 01:27 PM
i was thinking of going to No Problem Raceway on the 27th .. but its just too hot
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posted August 16, 2011 02:58 PM
 Edited By: eklipse636 on 17 Aug 2011 02:20
The attendance has been down here too. Semdra use to have 100+ bikes in street eyat EVERY event of the year. The last one had Around 35.
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posted August 16, 2011 05:24 PM
Same crap here in Orlando
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posted August 17, 2011 06:16 AM
I haven't been to the track in about 3 months. Just didn't want to deal with the heat this year.
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posted August 17, 2011 08:51 AM
We've been having 4 -5 bikes in our 9.50 class here.. where as last year we had 12+ every race and the year before that 15+, year before that 20+.. it's a steady decline...
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posted August 17, 2011 09:55 AM
Give them something to race for.
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posted August 17, 2011 10:03 AM
I wonder if it's not due to how the bikes have evolved? Back when we had our bracket classes and most bikes were stock wheelbase and maybe lowered a little we would have tons of bikes. Then came faster more expensive bikes, bolt on swingarms, NOS kits, Turbo's. The regular hard working guy with a family just could not buy that kind of stuff to put on the bikes. So basically they quit comming to the track. Throw in high unemployment, soaring gas prices and I guess we have what we got now. I sold several of my bikes, I still have the Turbo Busa to play on. I sold my Harley Road King and even that market is down so I lost some on that. A friend just bought a used Boss Hoss, He's having it painted, looks like it will be fun. I will take it out and hammer it to see what it's got. 350 V8 motorcycle should do pretty good.
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posted August 17, 2011 10:17 AM
"Then came faster more expensive bikes, bolt on swingarms, NOS kits, Turbo's. The regular hard working guy with a family just could not buy that kind of stuff to put on the bikes. So basically they quit comming to the track."
I agree, 'headsup' wheelbase to weight rules a trophy and some cash is the best thing I could come up with to make it worth going.
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posted August 17, 2011 07:28 PM
Our heads up streetbike class started 2 years ago.. 12 bikes just about every race.
Then the same couple of bikes kept winning..
We had 3 bikes, (or 4 if the other guy had his running at the time) at every race last year.
Give them somthing to race for? We pay $500 to win 9.50, $150 to r/u, and $50 to each in the semis. That's not something?
In our heads up class, first year was exhibition we payed 80% divied up between 1st/2nd/semis. 2nd year (last year) we payed $400 to win and $100 to runner up.
There's plenty to race for. A few of our guys were from texas.. it wasn't worth the trip up here for them.. Can't blame em, i don't drive to texas to race.
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posted August 18, 2011 06:51 AM
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I wonder if it's not due to how the bikes have evolved? Back when we had our bracket classes and most bikes were stock wheelbase and maybe lowered a little we would have tons of bikes. Then came faster more expensive bikes, bolt on swingarms, NOS kits, Turbo's. The regular hard working guy with a family just could not buy that kind of stuff to put on the bikes. So basically they quit comming to the track. Throw in high unemployment, soaring gas prices and I guess we have what we got now. I sold several of my bikes, I still have the Turbo Busa to play on. I sold my Harley Road King and even that market is down so I lost some on that. A friend just bought a used Boss Hoss, He's having it painted, looks like it will be fun. I will take it out and hammer it to see what it's got. 350 V8 motorcycle should do pretty good.
The boss hosses aren't as quick as you'd think. A stock liter or 14/busa will spank even the big blocks no problem. Quite a few years ago a bike magazine ran a hoss against a stock ZX12, the 12 ran away as the speeds increased. A guy on one of the forums I use to frequent had 2 big block hosses, he said the big sport bikes had no trouble pulling him. I read the same basic thing on the hoss forums. Part of it was getting traction, the other part was the v-8 power has trouble getting through the auto tranny and drive train to the ground effectively enough to produce sportbike beating acceleration. There was a guy at our local bike night that had the 350 version, when he hit it it was quick, but not what I expected. Instant power, but not the high rpm hit of quick building power that lets a sportbike pull so hard as you wind them up. I think the v-8's are better suited to a 2 wheeled rear drive set-up that lets them pull the taller gears while still getting good traction to put the massive torque and lower rpm's compared to a bike to good use. I'd still buy one for the right price though lol.
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posted August 18, 2011 08:37 AM
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Then the same couple of bikes kept winning..
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hey i think this man has figured it out ..when 1 guy keeps winning the others don't enter knowing they have no chance ..so they stop coming ..
me i like competition so that why i Index and ET ..I'M not gonna enter some heads up class knowing the fastest bike in the staging lanes or pits is a full second faster
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posted August 18, 2011 09:00 AM
It was never like that.. Competition was always close.
But i've heard the guy say "i only run what i need to run".. If the guy he's racing runs an 8.60, he runs an 8.50. If the other guy runs an 8.30, he runs an 8.20.. Seen it with my own eyes.
He has another bike that he runs in the funny bike class. I've only seen him run all the way out the back door once, 7.14 or something like that.. No bar outlaw bike. But, then again he said he never touched the 'ohshit' button..
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posted August 18, 2011 11:31 AM
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It was never like that.. Competition was always close.
But i've heard the guy say "i only run what i need to run".. If the guy he's racing runs an 8.60, he runs an 8.50. If the other guy runs an 8.30, he runs an 8.20.. Seen it with my own eyes.
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thats not competition but sandbagging ..if you had an 8.60 bike and the 8.20 guy shows up why enter so he can put a wheel on you and run an 8.50.. but all it takes is to beat the wrong guy and everybody knows what he can run then ..
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posted August 18, 2011 11:59 AM
Well what ever the reason they have stopped comming. Me? I would not like paying an entrance fee knowing I didn't have a chance. Back in the late 70's early 80's the bike event stagging lanes would be overcroweded. I remeber having a drawthrough Mr turbo kit on a 78 KZ1000 and running 6.80's in the 1/8th and I was one of the fastest bikes there. That was stock wheelbase with skinny tire and all. I hope it pics back up but I don't himk it will for a while if ever. the motorcycle hayday might have come and gone. At least I got to run in some of the Prostar and IDBA events back when they were strong. Well at least my Turbo project Busa makes a good Saturday night cruise and hang out bike. set at 300 RWHP with a hard compound rear tire it is good to show off on leaving 300 ft. blackmarks pulling off from people that think there new sportbikes with an exhaust are fast.
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posted August 18, 2011 05:34 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 19 Aug 2011 01:36
i race with cars and all in jackpot racing and having a blasts ..
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Big_T112
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posted August 19, 2011 01:14 AM
Race with cars? What if one swapped lanes and took you out?. Most tracks around us don't allow bikes and cars to run together.
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posted August 19, 2011 03:40 AM
shit happens .. but i'd get the win since he crossed the line ..
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posted August 19, 2011 09:01 AM
Not if you were smashed underneath the car. his bumper would be in front. Unless you are able to stick an arm or a leg out in front of the car from underneath.  Down here in Alabama there are to many redneck engineered cars with gigantic motors and no setup of the chassis. I seen more than my share take a hard turn of the starting line or swap ends mid track.
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posted August 19, 2011 09:28 AM
I have been racing against cars for almost twenty years.Only been hit twice.By IDIOTS on motorcycles.We are talking bracket racing.How many times have you seen two BRACKET cars hit each other?No Pro Mods or 10.5 cars.Bracket cars
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posted August 19, 2011 10:27 AM
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Not if you were smashed underneath the car. his bumper would be in front. Unless you are able to stick an arm or a leg out in front of the car from underneath. .
I DON'T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND.. I don't need to cross the finish line if he cross into my lane ... thats the worst foul of all and an auitomatic win .. even if i redlite and he cross the line i win .. it an automatic win
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posted August 20, 2011 06:23 AM
Edited By: 01smokes on 20 Aug 2011 14:23
im doin a 8.50 index race tonight im the only bike in the class, i took the SWB 14 out last night to see if i can dial it in to a 10.20 and damn sand bagging is HARD lol i cant slow down enough to make it
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Big_T112
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posted August 21, 2011 06:24 PM
I do understand and I know that. I was being sarcastic.
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posted August 21, 2011 07:04 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 22 Aug 2011 03:06
i know you was being sarcastic..but i won the jackpot race
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posted August 21, 2011 07:20 PM
Good deal. You know them car guys hated that. they hate bikes at the track anyway.
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