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posted May 16, 2011 07:28 PM
Mobil 1 5w20 syn car oil, what do you think?
I just picked up a 5 qt jug of 5w20 mobil 1 full syn car oil for my bike, with all this talk of lightweight oils to free up a few hp, and reading brocks posts about less than 0 and 0w20 for street riding on the 14, I figured what the heck.
I would appreciate any feedback or warnings on trying this. Stock motor, street and strip usage.
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08 ZX14, 2010 Persimmon Red bodywork.
Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
  
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smokinZX14
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posted May 16, 2011 07:36 PM
 Edited By: smokinZX14 on 17 May 2011 03:37
I use 5 W 20 Mobil one syn in the cooler times of the year.. High heat i use 10w30 full syn .. Never had a problem with either WT oil .. You guys know i'm not easy on my bike .. 
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posted May 16, 2011 07:40 PM
Good to hear, it's always cool here in Oak Harbor WA
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08 ZX14, 2010 Persimmon Red bodywork.
Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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madnessracing
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posted May 16, 2011 09:24 PM
Has anyone tried the 0w oil from brocks?
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blackbullet76
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posted May 16, 2011 09:33 PM
I thought you had to use motorcycle oil because of the friction modifier additive for the wet clutch?
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Zone Head
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posted May 16, 2011 10:03 PM
Not all car oils have the friction modifiers in them. Many of us have been using car oil for a long time. 20+ miles of car oils and motorcycle oils in my 14, I tend to buy the best deal I can find.
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08 ZX14, 2010 Persimmon Red bodywork.
Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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Ratfink
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posted May 17, 2011 04:57 AM
i use motorcycle oils myself i just cant do it i just cant get over the mental block i run that sweedish oil thats 5w40 syn its 19 a qt and it worked great everywhere ive been including every track ive been to and the maxton mile
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1badzx12r
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posted May 17, 2011 08:33 AM
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i use motorcycle oils myself i just cant do it i just cant get over the mental block i run that sweedish oil thats 5w40 syn its 19 a qt and it worked great everywhere ive been including every track ive been to and the maxton mile
mine 15-40 and 11.00 a gallon .. 
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CraigChrist
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posted May 17, 2011 10:35 AM
19 a quart? you sound like a fucking harley owner lol. I always ran either rotella or mobil1.
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eklipse636
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posted May 17, 2011 04:29 PM
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19 a quart? you sound like a fucking harley owner lol. I always ran either rotella or mobil1.
+100!!!!
if your going feel Better buying a expensive oil, at least get amsoil. You can get it for $8+- qt if you buy it by the case
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Best: 60ft 1.351 1/8 5.68 mph 123.98 1/4
8.89 mph 151.32
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zx12mark
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posted May 17, 2011 08:37 PM
i run mobil1 20-50 or 10-40 full car oils .57k on a 91 zx11 and 51k on a 2000zx12r.they looked new in their bellies.redlined all the time.......weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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eklipse636
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posted May 18, 2011 02:00 AM
50wt? That's some thick stuff.
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8.89 mph 151.32
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zixxer14
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posted May 19, 2011 09:12 PM
Edited By: zixxer14 on 20 May 2011 05:13
Look in the manual, it's recommended for hot areas, like where I live. Never gets below 32 here and usually stays above 90 all summer. I run Castrol 20w50 semi-synth all year. At 34k now with no problems.
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posted May 19, 2011 09:35 PM
I think I read brock saying that these thicker oils "are just wasting HP" Not knocking your choice of oil, You I bet you could run super tech oil and still get 100k out of the zx14 with regular oil changes.
I just finished filling mine up with 5w-20 mobil one car oil and a new wix filter looking for a few more hp.
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08 ZX14, 2010 Persimmon Red bodywork.
Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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eklipse636
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posted May 20, 2011 01:40 AM
Just a idea, our Autozone and advance auto parts do specials every month. A different name brand each time. 5 qts oil and filter for $30. Mobil 1 is one of the oils.
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Best: 60ft 1.351 1/8 5.68 mph 123.98 1/4
8.89 mph 151.32
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posted May 20, 2011 07:01 AM
WOW! When I changed the oil yesterday, I drained the oil within seconds of shutting off the bike from a 2 hour ride, I let it drian for 3 hours and installed a wixx/napa gold 1358 filter, it took 4 1/2 qt to fill it 3/4 up the window while ballanced upright.
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08 ZX14, 2010 Persimmon Red bodywork.
Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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posted May 20, 2011 07:12 AM
I just looked up that a dry motor takes 4.8 with the oem filter, how the heck did all but 3/10ths of a quart of oil get out? The oil I drained was mobil one 10w30 with 2500 miles on it, I drained it out while still very hot and it drained almost like water.
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08 ZX14, 2010 Persimmon Red bodywork.
Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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zixxer14
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posted May 20, 2011 07:26 AM
Thay's why I run the 20w50 because it really thins out the oil in the summer heat. I change it every 3k & it is beginning to get dirty by then.
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posted May 20, 2011 07:44 AM
Im trusting in brocks recomendation, the worst problem from using these thin oils that I read of was a few bikes having clutch issues, but those were extream racing bikes. I have lots of miles on my 14 with no motor issues at all on thiner car oils, most of them in the Houston heat.
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08 ZX14, 2010 Persimmon Red bodywork.
Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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eklipse636
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posted May 20, 2011 01:59 PM
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WOW! When I changed the oil yesterday, I drained the oil within seconds of shutting off the bike from a 2 hour ride, I let it drian for 3 hours and installed a wixx/napa gold 1358 filter, it took 4 1/2 qt to fill it 3/4 up the window while ballanced upright.
I change mine after it has been sitting a while. With the OSR pan it will takes close to 4 1/2 qts to fill it back up.
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Best: 60ft 1.351 1/8 5.68 mph 123.98 1/4
8.89 mph 151.32
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