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posted September 20, 2011 08:38 AM
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Good luck Rick at the bracket finals,would love to run tsb but elvira is to long.
Thanks Sonny...Gonna be throwin a little rope-a-dope at'm...lol
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1badzx12r
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posted September 20, 2011 08:41 AM
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who said he got his ass handed 2 him by a max?
nobody said ..i'm asking .. if that 9.74 is his best at ATCO on an 06-2011 "STOCK" ZX14 then the 9.43 vmax beats all sportbikes except Rocket 3's with UNSKILLED fat ass riders..hehe I guess the olde vmax dude knew more than we did
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CrotchRocket
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posted September 20, 2011 08:58 AM
lol at a OEM V-Max goin 9.43 !!!
The Rocket 3 has a Carpenter motor...
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kawpower
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posted September 20, 2011 10:47 AM
1 pass on the 14 that he never rode before and as for unskilled rider on the max or rocket i dont think so lite weight pro jockies,art int ridin shit he to old to hold onto the bars lol,sorry art!!
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bigdtd
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posted September 20, 2011 04:03 PM
i posted a link on fb they will be announcing it 10-10-11 the zx-14R 84 by 65 mm = 1441cc. word on the street NOTHING will touch it
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posted September 20, 2011 04:04 PM
yes it will have green on it
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posted September 20, 2011 04:06 PM
Blue? Gotta match the jacket and helmet from my 06!!!!!!!
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posted September 20, 2011 04:17 PM
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i posted a link on fb they will be announcing it 10-10-11 the zx-14R 84 by 65 mm = 1441cc. word on the street NOTHING will touch it
Awesome!
I hope the SE comes as a supercharged edition ! 
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bigdtd
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posted September 20, 2011 04:27 PM
" even built busas are in trouble with the new 14R"
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posted September 20, 2011 04:36 PM
+1 ^^^^^^^
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fullzx12r
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posted September 21, 2011 07:29 AM
http://ninja14r.kawasaki.com/witness/
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entropy
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posted September 21, 2011 10:23 AM
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" even built busas are in trouble with the new 14R"
there are "built" Busas, and then there are BUILT Busas.
Unfortunately, as much as i'd like to see the competition, no matter what the new 14 config turns out to be, it is very unlikely it'll be any competition for a BUILT Busa.
start throwing the rocks boys, start throwing the rocks...
(but you know it's true  )
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posted September 21, 2011 10:51 AM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 21 Sep 2011 18:59
You will not run into BUILT Busa on the street, and you can see them from a mile away at the track. If a zx14 owner stays in his class he will rule.
BUILT Busa should watch out for BUILT ZX14, I know of one that runs 4.5s in the 1/8 (no bars, normal zx14 frame) and it is still being tuned. The grudge racing world will see soon.
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Shane661
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posted September 21, 2011 12:27 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 21 Sep 2011 20:30
Unlikely that this bike will be a worry for any Busa guys who really want to go fast. A 1441 is a bolt-on affair for a Gen 2 Busa, and the combinations are well sorted. The Busa brings a whole lot to the table with the 3-piece case design, relatively wide bore centers, ecu programming, aero's, etc...
But I am definitely intrigued by this new bike, and the potential it may have. Anytime the factory gives you more to work with, that is a good thing. 
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posted September 21, 2011 12:59 PM
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But I am definitely intrigued by this new bike, and the potential it may have. Anytime the factory gives you more to work with, that is a good thing.
Shane,I am with you and hope Kaw pulls a rabbit out of the hat
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RICH CRAFT 1
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posted September 21, 2011 03:30 PM
Pound for pound and weight for weight the busa can't stay with the 14,I have a daily rider if you'd like to try your luck. Who knows I might even pull a rabbit out of my hat.
Ken
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Shane661
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posted September 21, 2011 03:40 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 21 Sep 2011 23:47
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Pound for pound and weight for weight the busa can't stay with the 14,I have a daily rider if you'd like to try your luck. Who knows I might even pull a rabbit out of my hat.
Ken
LMFAO....yeah, the 14 is king of the world, right??
You guys crack me up...
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posted September 21, 2011 04:37 PM
Edited By: RICH CRAFT 1 on 22 Sep 2011 00:49
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Pound for pound and weight for weight the busa can't stay with the 14,I have a daily rider if you'd like to try your luck. Who knows I might even pull a rabbit out of my hat.
Ken
LMFAO....yeah, the 14 is king of the world, right??
You guys crack me up...
it seems like I read that statement in a magazine somewhere? but looking at the AMA record book I believe they were right. Most of the fast guys didn't bring a busa to the real street race they brought 1000 knowing that they would have a better chance there. so if you want to be technical the Harley is the faster Street bike in the world if you don't believe that just go down and look at NHRA Pro Stock motorcycle. so does that mean next time I go to the track I should be looking out for them Harleys LOL maybe the busa -guys- should sell their bikes and by Harleys they are faster! after all, we are just talking about a few dollars more aren't we? but in the real world and at the local track I think you will see that the 14 is King and after 10 -10-11 maybe even more dominant.
Ken
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RICH CRAFT 1
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posted September 21, 2011 04:52 PM
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Pound for pound and weight for weight the busa can't stay with the 14,I have a daily rider if you'd like to try your luck. Who knows I might even pull a rabbit out of my hat.
Ken
LMFAO....yeah, the 14 is king of the world, right??
You guys crack me up...
it seems like I read that statement in a magazine somewhere? but looking at the AMA record book I believe they were right. Most of the fast guys didn't bring a busa to the real street race they brought 1000 knowing that they would have a better chance there. so if you want to be technical the Harley is the fastest Street bike in the world if you don't believe that just go down and look at NHRA Pro Stock motorcycle. so does that mean next time I go to the track I should be looking out for them Harleys LOL maybe the busa -guys- should sell their bikes and by Harleys, they are faster! after all, we are just talking about a few dollars more aren't we?, but in the real world and at the local track I think you will see that the 14 is King and after 10 -10-11 maybe even more dominant.
Ken
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Shane661
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posted September 21, 2011 04:58 PM
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Pound for pound and weight for weight the busa can't stay with the 14,I have a daily rider if you'd like to try your luck. Who knows I might even pull a rabbit out of my hat.
Ken
LMFAO....yeah, the 14 is king of the world, right??
You guys crack me up...
it seems like I read that statement in a magazine somewhere? but looking at the AMA record book I believe they were right. Most of the fast guys didn't bring a busa to the real street race they brought 1000 knowing that they would have a better chance there. so if you want to be technical the Harley is the faster Street bike in the world if you don't believe that just go down and look at NHRA Pro Stock motorcycle. so does that mean next time I go to the track I should be looking out for them Harleys LOL maybe the busa -guys- should sell their bikes and by Harleys they are faster! after all, we are just talking about a few dollars more aren't we? but in the real world and at the local track I think you will see that the 14 is King and after 10 -10-11 maybe even more dominant.
Ken
I look at a variety of venues...street, lsr, drag...overall the Busa just stomps the hell out of Kawasaki. When you look at the overall design, it is no wonder.
Now, I love my Kawasaki's...but I have them in spite of the fact that the Busa is a much better performance platform. That's a fact.
I hope to hell that the new 14 does stomp the hell out of everything else...with the displacement it should. Who knows, maybe I will buy one...I am sure it will be the bike to beat as long as you are not doing any motor work.
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posted September 21, 2011 05:10 PM
so are we talking street bikes are all out race bikes...?.as a percentage the number of people who buy bikes just to pull them apart and modify them is kind of low. sure we all like bolt ons... but bore, bore, stroke etc..... naw...
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posted September 21, 2011 05:19 PM
I look at a variety of venues...street, lsr, drag...overall the Busa just stomps the hell out of Kawasaki. When you look at the overall design, it is no wonder.
What would be so much better in the overall design? Cylinder head flow or that they have a huge aftermarket because of the name much larger amount of units sold. Don't tell me it's the separate cylinder so a big bore is easy to do?
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posted September 21, 2011 05:20 PM
"as long as you are not doing any motor work."
When does a busa becouse something else? Just as HD, you can keep adding part to anything and make it faster. But what do you have in the end a busa a HD?... no. Mod for mod the zx14 is the best street/strip bike I have seen. Due to power, durable motor, clutch, chasis and brakes.
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posted September 21, 2011 05:30 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Sep 2011 01:32
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What would be so much better in the overall design? Cylinder head flow or that they have a huge aftermarket because of the name much larger amount of units sold. Don't tell me it's the separate cylinder so a big bore is easy to do?
What is better about the design?
Cylinder Head, Cams
3-Piece Block/Case
Longer connecting Rod Length
Room for big stroker cranks
Billet blocks available
Frame design as related to turbo applications
Aerodynamics
There are a variety of other areas that make it a better choice for very high-performance applications. But most of the riders, as you say, won't be concerned with any of this stuff. The new 14 is going to be a 1441, and that will sell plenty!
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posted September 21, 2011 05:31 PM
I agree with Shane and RICH CRAFT 1 , Both are right .. If you are going to hot rod a bike get a busa if you are going to stay stock motored get a zx14 ... Tracks around me we rarely see a Gen 2 busa , But we see a lot of ZX14s .. The few gen 2 busas we see are no faster than the zx14s . Truth is 90 % of bike owners never touch the engine .. Stock for stock the zx14 has little to worry about .. The new ZX14R will get a few more Busa owners to jump ship and get a zx14 , these guys will be in that 90% that don't want to build a motor .. I'm in the 90% myself so a new ZX14R 1441cc is what i want .. I'll add a pipe and tune and call it a day , later if i need more power i can add a small shot ..
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