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posted August 30, 2011 09:54 AM
no real news ????? no new pictures ?????
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smokinZX14
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posted August 30, 2011 11:21 AM
 Edited By: smokinZX14 on 30 Aug 2011 19:23
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All you can do is laugh. A bunch of people posting about how RG is just a shill for Kawasaki, how his word doesn't mean anything,etc....but hey, it's nothing personal, right?
I wonder how many of these same people would pucker up and kiss his ass in real life?
Personally I don't care what the preproduction bike runs in the hands of an ultra-talented jockey. I'm waiting to see the specs and performance of the production machines.
Shane
Shill is the wrong word Shane .. Ricky is anything but a Shill .. Just remember you used that word not us ..
Shill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A shill, plant or stooge is a person who helps a person or organization without disclosing that he or she has a close relationship with that person or organization . ...
Ricky is no Shill .. He is a Pitchman , Salesman , Poster Boy , but NOT a shill ..
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Shane661
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posted August 30, 2011 11:34 AM
Sorry Lee, I was using the Webster's definition:
Definition of SHILL
intransitive verb
1: to act as a shill
2: to act as a spokesperson or promoter
So, isn't that what you said? Bottom line, you basically said you don't trust his word because he is a pitchman for Kawasaki. Maybe you think that isn't akin to saying he is full of shit?
Whatever...let's wait for the production bikes....
Shane
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smokinZX14
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posted August 30, 2011 11:49 AM
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Sorry Lee, I was using the Webster's definition:
Definition of SHILL
intransitive verb
1: to act as a shill
2: to act as a spokesperson or promoter
So, isn't that what you said? Bottom line, you basically said you don't trust his word because he is a pitchman for Kawasaki. Maybe you think that isn't akin to saying he is full of shit?
Whatever...let's wait for the production bikes....
Shane
Again Shane i didn't say Full Of Shit you did .. If i felt that way i would have said it that way ..
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posted August 30, 2011 11:54 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 30 Aug 2011 19:56
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Again Shane i didn't say Full Of Shit you did .. If i felt that way i would have said it that way ..
These are YOUR words Lee:
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We all hope it is faster ... That has not been proven yet .. Ricky video proves nothing ... His numbers prove nothing .. The only word we have is his word and i'm sorry right now that carrys no weight with me .. Wait till we see some others run some numbers and then we can fill in the blanks ourselfs ..
This post by Ricky proves my point .. 184 HP ? hype plain and simple because we all know the 08 made no more HP stock than a stock 06 07 ZX14 ...
I't's Ricky job to pump sunshine about a new bike .. I don't blame him because that is his job .. He is Kawi Pitchman and they write the checks .. But when he does that people believe him and the hype only to find out later it's not all that ..
I only said Ricky hypes these bikes to the max and the bikes don't live up to the hype
Lucky i fell for that 08 zx10 Ricky Gadson hype also .. As you know that 08 zx10 was a turd .. Well at least mine was .. I will not fall for that again .. If i'm going to buy into this 2012 zx14 someone else other than Ricky is going to show me proof .. I'm not buying his sales pitch again ..
Well i would believe Brock long before Ricky Gadson... At this point Ricky has lost all credibility with me ..
Now, you may not consider that an attack on someone's character, or calling them full of shit. But come on, it is what it is.
Rather than talk shit about him, how about just waiting for the production bikes?
Shane
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posted August 30, 2011 11:55 AM
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Again Shane i didn't say Full Of Shit you did .. If i felt that way i would have said it that way ..
These are YOUR words Lee:
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We all hope it is faster ... That has not been proven yet .. Ricky video proves nothing ... His numbers prove nothing .. The only word we have is his word and i'm sorry right now that carrys no weight with me .. Wait till we see some others run some numbers and then we can fill in the blanks ourselfs ..
This post by Ricky proves my point .. 184 HP ? hype plain and simple because we all know the 08 made no more HP stock than a stock 06 07 ZX14 ...
I't's Ricky job to pump sunshine about a new bike .. I don't blame him because that is his job .. He is Kawi Pitchman and they write the checks .. But when he does that people believe him and the hype only to find out later it's not all that ..
I only said Ricky hypes these bikes to the max and the bikes don't live up to the hype
Lucky i fell for that 08 zx10 Ricky Gadson hype also .. As you know that 08 zx10 was a turd .. Well at least mine was .. I will not fall for that again .. If i'm going to buy into this 2012 zx14 someone else other than Ricky is going to show me proof .. I'm not buying his sales pitch again ..
Well i would believe Brock long before Ricky Gadson... At this point Ricky has lost all credibility with me ..
Now, you may not consider that an attack on someone's character, or calling them full of shit. But come on, it is what it is.
Shane
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posted August 30, 2011 11:55 AM
Well he was full of shit with the 08 14 wasn't he? It was suppose to run much better times and more powerful then the 06 and 07's, clearly missed the mark with that one, didn't he?
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posted August 30, 2011 11:57 AM
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Well he was full of shit with the 08 14 wasn't he? It was suppose to run much better times and more powerful then the 06 and 07's, clearly missed the mark with that one, didn't he?
So you can go on the list of guys taking their shots at him, congrats.
Oh wait, that's not an attack on his character either, right?
You guys are hilarious...
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smokinZX14
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posted August 30, 2011 12:02 PM
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Again Shane i didn't say Full Of Shit you did .. If i felt that way i would have said it that way ..
These are YOUR words Lee:
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We all hope it is faster ... That has not been proven yet .. Ricky video proves nothing ... His numbers prove nothing .. The only word we have is his word and i'm sorry right now that carrys no weight with me .. Wait till we see some others run some numbers and then we can fill in the blanks ourselfs ..
This post by Ricky proves my point .. 184 HP ? hype plain and simple because we all know the 08 made no more HP stock than a stock 06 07 ZX14 ...
I't's Ricky job to pump sunshine about a new bike .. I don't blame him because that is his job .. He is Kawi Pitchman and they write the checks .. But when he does that people believe him and the hype only to find out later it's not all that ..
I only said Ricky hypes these bikes to the max and the bikes don't live up to the hype
Lucky i fell for that 08 zx10 Ricky Gadson hype also .. As you know that 08 zx10 was a turd .. Well at least mine was .. I will not fall for that again .. If i'm going to buy into this 2012 zx14 someone else other than Ricky is going to show me proof .. I'm not buying his sales pitch again ..
Well i would believe Brock long before Ricky Gadson... At this point Ricky has lost all credibility with me ..
Now, you may not consider that an attack on someone's character, or calling them full of shit. But come on, it is what it is.
Shane
That is what i said and i stand behind what i said ..If your feelings differ from mine that is ok .. If you don't like how i feel about it you can disagree ..
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smokinZX14
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posted August 30, 2011 12:06 PM
Rather than talk shit about him, how about just waiting for the production bikes?
Shane ..
I'm doing just that .. Waiting for the production bike and other testing before i put my money down ..
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posted August 30, 2011 12:07 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 30 Aug 2011 20:08
My feelings are that I am going to wait for the production bikes, and not go about bashing anyone in the process. These days I try to look through the hype (no matter where it comes from), and look at the data or facts. We got some data on the new bike, and I am interested...so now we'll see how it plays out.
Shane
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posted August 30, 2011 01:10 PM
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posted August 30, 2011 02:13 PM
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Rather than talk shit about him, how about just waiting for the production bikes?
Shane ..
I'm doing just that .. Waiting for the production bike and other testing before i put my money down ..
+1 I got $5k on my hand to use it as a down payment!
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posted August 30, 2011 02:53 PM
surely y'all can come up with something funny..like a 200rwhp 2012 zx14 ..hehe
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posted August 30, 2011 02:58 PM
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surely y'all can come up with something funny..like a 200rwhp 2012 zx14 ..hehe
veemax is still king
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posted August 30, 2011 03:23 PM
Edited By: JZX on 30 Aug 2011 23:32
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posted August 30, 2011 03:38 PM
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surely y'all can come up with something funny..like a 200rwhp 2012 zx14 ..hehe
veemax is still king
wee
Well, that is a given, no one is even trying to dispute that...he he
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posted August 30, 2011 08:03 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 31 Aug 2011 04:05
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WOW, Posted by Justoyz2
I am glad of this discussion, it really shows who's who and what's what....
-Lee did beat me in our drag race no excuses there..... but we wasn't comparing apples to apples....
My focus was you guys back stabbing attitudes. We can agree that dynos vary, so rwhp numbers will be different. Rg is a bad as rider PERIOD.... non you guys on this forum will out run his times on the same bike. (i know, none of you said that you could), I was making that clear.
I tend to believe when he stated the new 14 will out run the new 10 was with mods completed. If any of you would take the time to review Kawi's history, this is how they do it, normally they wait two years to resperate the classes.
I ask that you all be patient.... hell many of you are not able to purchase a new bike right now, this bike will cost around 15,500.00. We will know for sure shortly.....
Those of you posted track tickets... that shit doesn't mean anything, we were not there, we don't know your mods.... hell we don't even know if you were the ones actually riding the bike....... POUND SAND.....oh yeah...... POUND MORE SAND
.. Justoyz2 Remember this little post you made about Brock and the 08 Busa and the HP it made on Brocks dyno ?
"You can't trust the number because Brock has a vested intrest called (MONEY)"
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posted August 31, 2011 02:47 AM
First I'd like to say that I'm disappointed with the backlash about all this towards RG. You guys dont know the situation. I can understand the disappointment but not the backlash towards Rickey.
I suppose next time if you read new product reviews in Cycle World or Sport Rider it would be all good and then there would be nothing to bitch about.
Of course all this will be mute in a few months anyway but to see this unfold like this now is unfair to RG.
The gen2 Busa is a solid second tier bike now. Just like the Blackbird was in 99-2000 to the Busa and zx12r. You better get your Franklin's ready.
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posted August 31, 2011 03:17 AM
I am still waiting to see the stock 8.40 BMWs around here
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posted August 31, 2011 04:05 AM
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Of course all this will be mute in a few months anyway but to see this unfold like this now is unfair to RG.
The gen2 Busa is a solid second tier bike now. Just like the Blackbird was in 99-2000 to the Busa and zx12r. You better get your Franklin's ready.
I dont think the new bike will make more power than an older model with a ported head and throttle bodies....you said that you were seeing 210+ hp .
Roy
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posted August 31, 2011 04:46 AM
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Of course all this will be mute in a few months anyway but to see this unfold like this now is unfair to RG.
The gen2 Busa is a solid second tier bike now. Just like the Blackbird was in 99-2000 to the Busa and zx12r. You better get your Franklin's ready.
I dont think the new bike will make more power than an older model with a ported head and throttle bodies....you said that you were seeing 210+ hp .
Roy
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posted August 31, 2011 05:25 AM
Shane calm down bro, I just think people are salavating over this new bike and just want a updated machine not just secondaries opening up quicker. People are always wanting more and when it doesn't pan out our feelings get hurt. Hehe. Gotta go my lieutenant is givin me the eye.
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posted August 31, 2011 07:16 AM
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First I'd like to say that I'm disappointed with the backlash about all this towards RG. You guys dont know the situation. I can understand the disappointment but not the backlash towards Rickey.
I suppose next time if you read new product reviews in Cycle World or Sport Rider it would be all good and then there would be nothing to bitch about.
Of course all this will be mute in a few months anyway but to see this unfold like this now is unfair to RG.
The gen2 Busa is a solid second tier bike now. Just like the Blackbird was in 99-2000 to the Busa and zx12r. You better get your Franklin's ready.
Cycle World or Sport Rider lol.. Proof comes from the track .. ETs from Magazines are not what we need or want .. Most Magazine riders could not run a good number at the drag strip if you paid them and they are paid ..What we need is someone like Brock that will put more than one rider on the bike and test it ..
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