Rook
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posted April 14, 2011 09:45 PM
DAMPERS: ohlins /Brock vs ohlins /Muzzy ??
Which one? Same thing?
BROCK'S:
http://www.schnitzracingstore.com/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=4933062
MUZZY'S
http://www.muzzys.com/ZX14/ZX14_Steering_Damper/zx14_steering_damper.html
  
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zixxer14
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posted April 14, 2011 10:03 PM
For the price difference I'd say go Brocks. It also looks easier to install than the Muzzy.
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Rook
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posted April 14, 2011 10:39 PM
 Edited By: Rook on 15 Apr 2011 06:39
Agree with the ease of installation --so it seems. Muzzy sure did a job of talking his up though. "Automatic variable resistance"? Sound's good. I would pay =200$ for that. Sounds like what we get out of an electronic steering damper but I am not believing it until I get testimonials.
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zxbob
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posted April 15, 2011 03:39 AM
I had put the Ohlins by Brock on my bike . . . . clean, quality set up !
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EL Phantom
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posted April 15, 2011 06:48 AM
check out Scott's steeringdampers.
Looks really nice and better quality than the Ohlins bar, which looks terrible!!!!
http://www.scottsperformance.com/Stabilizer_Purchase2.php?Make=Kawasaki&Model=ZX-14&Bike_ID=5748&Year=2011&Size=0&Fred=&BI_ID=152843
easy to install and even cheaper than the Ohlins damper,
Scott's damper can be adjusted to your special feeling.
Im lovin it, it is a real lifesaver!!!
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Rook
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posted April 15, 2011 07:14 AM
To each his own. I actually have always been partial to the look of the tube stabilizers over the pod-like rotary Scott's or GPR dampers. I think Ohlins might even make a rotary. I have heard the Scotts requires a hole to be drilled in the airbox.
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snuffy
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posted April 15, 2011 01:51 PM
Hey Rook
I have the Brocks and its one of the best mods that I have done to my bike and looks sweet.
10 minute install time.
Snuffy
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posted April 15, 2011 02:06 PM
Edited By: atldude on 15 Apr 2011 22:07
Been eye-balling this one personally for the lack of clunk mostly but this month I had to get my new Supertech Rs, traction pads and 2 pairs of knee sliders (damn alpine*s GP sliders wore off on me in about 1 hr) ;-)
http://www.pit-bull.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PBMSA&Product_Code=F0045-021&Category_Code=kawasaki
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snuffy
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posted April 15, 2011 03:04 PM
Hey Rook Now that I figured out how to post a pic here you go.
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Shane661
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posted April 16, 2011 02:48 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 16 Apr 2011 10:49
We put a GPR on Racheal's 14. No drilling, clean install, no leaks. I am not a fan of the Ohlins for my application. My Muzzy will be for sale if anyone is interested; I am going to install a GPR or Scott's on my 14. The Brock's looks like a good product, but I believe you will need to modify it if you make any changes to the handlebars. That includes mods such as his carbon clip-ons, and mods such as bar risers.
For the record, we have two Scott's as well. Very nice....but you have to drill holes in the steering neck. Have also used a Hyperpro in the past.
Shane
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joel787
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posted April 16, 2011 02:50 AM
How much u gonna sell it for? De_ito@hotmail.com
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joel787
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posted April 16, 2011 02:53 AM
My doubt is that the GPR is always "On" not like the ohlins that acts like a shock absorber, so is the GPR better at high speeds so it doesnt woble?
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Shane661
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posted April 16, 2011 05:39 AM
I prefer a damper that can be adjusted to stiffer settings that the Ohlins. That is just my preference for speeds of 190 mph and above. The Scott's, Hyperpro, and GPR have much firmer settings than the Ohlins on my Muzzy.
I have heard you can change the oil in Ohlins to firm up the damping.
Shane
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Bently
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posted April 16, 2011 06:25 AM
GPR on my bike as well, easy on and easy off. also seems to work very well and gets much stiffer then the last two ohlins I had.
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epd345
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posted April 16, 2011 07:04 AM
+1 on the GPR, I have had great luck so far with it and like Shane said its instantly adjustable.
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masszx14
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posted April 16, 2011 08:23 AM
Too bad that the GPR is a leaking POS that will need to be serviced by the manufacturer every season. I own two V4 dampers and when they start leaking again I will be switching to Pitbull.
I've had enough headache with the brand to never buy anything from them again.
As mentioned above though, the rotary style dampers could be dialed much stiffer.
They also do much better in crashes as they are not attached to the clip-on bar.
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Shane661
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posted April 16, 2011 08:28 AM
Do they service it for free, Stan? Or does it cost?
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masszx14
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posted April 16, 2011 08:37 AM
Edited By: masszx14 on 16 Apr 2011 16:37
I bought one brand new and didn't keep the receipt (yeah, dumb I know),
the other one I got used at the track, so no freebies there either.
They might honor some warranty if you keep the receipt though.
I sent both of mine to GPR on 3/26/11 and got them back on 4/12/11,
cost me $25 per unit to be serviced (new gaskets, bolts and oil) and shipping cost which
was around $30 to and from the manufacturer.
I had an active Hyperpro on my gen1 zx10r and it was a really nice piece.
If somebody really wants to stay away from the rotary dampers
I would strongly recommend one. Here's a pic I found here of one on a blue 14
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Shane661
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posted April 16, 2011 08:40 AM
I really like the Scott's but I hate drilling the frame. Might do it on my race bike; I did it on my 12R.
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masszx14
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posted April 16, 2011 08:49 AM
Edited By: masszx14 on 16 Apr 2011 16:50
Pitbull's older design rotary dampers also required drilling- two holes in the top triple tree which for me wouldn't have been an issue but bothered many others. They now have a redesigned damper that requires no drilling and a full lifetime warranty regardless of prove of purchase, raced or not etc.
The Pitbull design also allows for the tank to be lifted up without having to remove the damper,
it just swivels up and away on a hinge and it's really convenient for guys who constantly wrench on their bikes and are not the "set it up in the spring and it's good for the season" type of riders.
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Shane661
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posted April 16, 2011 08:51 AM
Well, we will see how her GPR does. I think we are easier on the dampers than you twisty/track day types. 
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masszx14
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posted April 16, 2011 09:03 AM
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Well, we will see how her GPR does. I think we are easier on the dampers than you twisty/track day types.
I see track day guys so fed up with GPR on the forums,
FS threads like this are not so uncommon:
http://weraclassifieds.com/ads/gpr-v4-stabilizer/
To be all fair here though, I've crashed hard on both my V4 units.
The dampers much like suspension components require regular services
for fresh oil and everything keeping the oil inside. People often overlook that.
If my GPR dampers were leak free I woud still send them out for service every season.
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posted April 16, 2011 09:11 AM
Edited By: DogoZX on 16 Apr 2011 17:13
I know it's not what Rook is looking for, but IMO Scotts rotary dampers are the best in the business. I own 3 of them. One of which I've had for more than 10 years, used to pull double duty between my zx9r and RM250 (now it's on the RM full time), and it has never leaked or given me any problems what so ever.
Here is the Scotts mounted on my zx14. Drilling the mounting holes is not a big deal. The kit even comes with the punch, drill bit, and tap. I do, however, recommend pulling the air cleaner and vacuming out the shavings after the install. Scotts neglects to mention this in the instructions. Probably because there is little, if any, chance of that shit getting past the air cleaner... but not on/in my bike. 
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Shane661
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posted April 16, 2011 09:14 AM
Yeah, the drilling isn't hard. I just don't like drilling holes in the steering head so much.
I wish they had a mount similar to the GPR; then you would have the great damper and the ease of mounting!
Shane
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masszx14
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posted April 16, 2011 09:16 AM
Rook,
if I were to choose a damper for my 14 now it would be this:
http://www.hyperprousa.com/catalog.php?cat=Dampers&make=Kawasaki
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