atldude
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posted March 30, 2011 06:26 AM
flashing the ECU?
Just saw this on another zx-14 forum. What do you guys think about this?
"Nope, we have a website, have had for years! www.dptune.com
The flash is simply that, a reflash. We do offer a "race" conversion if you want to tinker, but you really shouldn't need to
Heres the deal; send us your ecu, along with dyno charst if ya have them, and build notes. we will rewrite the files to fit your bike and reflash them with the limiters as you want them. If you have a PC your more than welcome to use it on top of what we do to"touch up" anything you think needs to be done(BTW, most of the zx10guys just pulled them off after the flash).
If you feel you need something changed at anytime(within reason), its a no charge deal to have us rewrite the file again to what you want.
Price for the reflash is 400.00 plus shipping back to you. 24 hour turn around time.
Race ecu is the same thing, just allows you to adjust the same as the factory race ecu. Comes with conversion. software, cable and instructions. Cost is 900. Turn around is 5-8 days( bunch of work)
Hope that answers some of the questions
Joseph McClughan
Dynotronics,Inc
www.dptune.com
678.488.1011"
"Its a different way to the same end, with a twist; a reflash is far widerer reaching and can change ANY PARAMETERS. It is not a "fool the ecu" trick, so you are not fighting the ecu logic to get it to do what you want. Example; you want .87 lambda wot, you simply target .87 lambda in the file for that load map, bingo. The piggy backs do this by"offsetting" the signal. true, some are good with one or more modifiers for the offset(air temp, water temp, ect), but its still an offset, and will be that way regardless of the load
Both of the solutions you mention are very limited in terms of resolution, and the ability to raise the limiters. Example, the PC can 'fool" the ecu into raising the rev limit(last I checked) 500rpm, we can set you up with anything you like. We have done the 10 to 16500 with no issues.
We also can set the timing maps in all the gears to different, or the same maps. this is very nice because we can remove the limiters that the factory places on stock bikes.
Secondary throttle plates are a place that many tuners are leaving power on the table; true, the engine will flow better at high revs with them removed, but at the cost of mid rev/load rideablity. We can remap the secondary plates to be a better ratio for more midrange, AND give you the flow in the high rev range also.
Now all the above is for the reflash, if you want to be able to adjust the tuning for whatever reason, the race conversion is the set up for you.
Adjust ; rev limits, timing, fuel, per cylinder fueling, pit speed limit, launch control, fan temps, ect,ect
Hope that helps answer some of your questions"
  
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Rook
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posted March 30, 2011 11:34 AM
 Edited By: Rook on 30 Mar 2011 19:37
Have done some reading on this at busa.org. Gen 2 busa guys have been doing this since 08. It is a DIY job. You buy a special harness and I believe the rest is up to you (witrh customer support, I hope). The threads became extremely complicated and I gave up tryingto follow. Prolly much easier if you have the mod going and are working with it than simply a passive observer. Personally, I wouldn't want to be the first to send in my ECU.. I would trust the busa setuo because mant others have done it and I have heard no complaints at all. But the 14 I have only heard talk about flashing so I will wait. ---Since mine 14 is all modded as much as I'm going to do for some time.
f you have a PC your more than welcome to use it on top of what we do to"touch up" anything you think needs to be done(BTW, most of the zx10guys just pulled them off after the flash).
Should be absolutely NO need for any more modules if the flash is doing its thing. I guess some may want to try to tune a bit on top of the flash.
If you feel you need something changed at anytime(within reason), its a no charge deal to have us rewrite the file again to what you want. Hope they saved your original and can reinstall if no worky.
Price for the reflash is 400.00 plus shipping back to you. 24 hour turn around time.
I'd say that is a mighty nice price considering I have spent ~ $1000 on electronics for my 14.
It is not a "fool the ecu" trick, so you are not fighting the ecu logic to get it to do what you want.
Isn't that so simple? great way to explain it. Only thing, I would not want to be the first guy to step and do this. Find out what a new ECU will cost and remember, if somebody flashes wrong, your bike might get cooked.
Hope it ends up being legit. Flashing is a great idea in theory but in practice.........well, it has not been put into practice yet.
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atldude
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posted March 30, 2011 04:42 PM
One of the locations says Atlanta on their website. I'll prolly just go talk to them some time in a week or two. I am curious as hell to see what exactly the deal is with this. I'll keep ya posted as soon as I get something more.
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billeason
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posted March 30, 2011 04:55 PM
Joe probably has my ECU now or soon. I M having my 06 done to test and if it does what i want i am going to set up an acc with them!
Want to try it on mine first to see how it goes,
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NINJA12
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posted March 30, 2011 07:21 PM
dptune has been in the diesel truck tuning business for a long time.
Ive had a DP tune on my 2000 f250 diesel for over 5 years without any problems.
Here is to hoping he does as well in the bike world.
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CajunBoyz
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posted March 31, 2011 02:46 AM
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Joe probably has my ECU now or soon. I M having my 06 done to test and if it does what i want i am going to set up an acc with them!
Want to try it on mine first to see how it goes,
Please let us know how it all works Bill
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bbirdxx2000
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posted March 31, 2011 03:29 AM
What advantage does a reflashed ECU have over Flies removal. Thank-you in advance
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billeason
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posted March 31, 2011 04:32 AM
I sure will . I am Not going to mention the company by name as i don't think they are a site sponsor,but will give all the details .
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Rook
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posted March 31, 2011 06:10 AM
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What advantage does a reflashed ECU have over Flies removal. Thank-you in advance
Flashed ECU is reprogramming the Bikes computer. Any of the things currently controlled by the computer can be changed to achieve certain performance goals. Flashing encompasses much more than just flies. Rev limit, top speed limit, timing, AFR....etc....what ever you want that is currently controlled by the computer.
The ECU could be reprogrammed to open flies more or less in different gears/rpm/speed. IDK if that would be better than just pulling the the flies out. Pulling flies on my 08 did not make a huge change at all. I would think flashing an 06-07, about the best they would be able to do is to make it behave like the 08 and later.
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