Shane661
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posted March 29, 2011 10:00 AM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 29 Mar 2011 18:05
"Real Street" Clutch Setup??
What combination of clutch springs and spacers will hold 300 hp on a 14?? I know they can't use lock ups in Real Street, so I am real curious.
I went to Brock's site...I saw a kit with heavy springs and .280 spacers. Is that the ticket?
I was going to use 5 heavy springs and the Cycle Logic lock up, but if there is a more simple route I'd rather use it. I don't need to slip the clutch for LSR...it just needs to hold.
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posted March 29, 2011 10:26 AM
Adams has a heavy spring set-up that will hold. If you call them ask to speak to Dale.
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posted March 29, 2011 10:34 AM
I used the 5 heavy springs and the spacer on mine it felt good, but I think it was still slipping...
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posted March 29, 2011 10:37 AM
The adams real street clutch setup with spring and thick spacer is around 82psi per spring/spacer. most heavy springs were around "50" if i recall correctly. I have it all writen down somewhere.
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Shane661
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posted March 29, 2011 10:38 AM
How much is the Adams kit? I already have the lock up, but if I can do it cheaper with less moving parts, that is a plus.
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posted March 29, 2011 10:39 AM
same one / price that brocks sells.
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posted March 29, 2011 10:43 AM
So, like $60??
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posted March 29, 2011 12:28 PM
I have an adam's set that I used for about a month. I think they are like $45 plus shipping. The adam's setup uses more spacer than the brock's. The springs are shorter and appear to be heavier also. I'll post some pics when I get home. I have both the adam's and brocks true street setups
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posted March 29, 2011 02:50 PM
Stock springs and a lock up from Cycle Logic ..Best bang for your buck ...Don't mind me i have no clue what i'm talking about .. 
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posted March 29, 2011 03:45 PM
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Stock springs and a lock up from Cycle Logic ..Best bang for your buck ...Don't mind me i have no clue what i'm talking about ..
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heavy springs get old fast if you ride in traffic, or parades.
there is a reason they outlaw them in certain classes.
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posted March 29, 2011 04:34 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 30 Mar 2011 00:41
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Stock springs and a lock up from Cycle Logic ..Best bang for your buck ...Don't mind me i have no clue what i'm talking about ..
My concern is that my motor will be making a lot of power well before those short arms do anything. Stock motor =176 hp....my motor=245 hp...hopefully.
I already have a CL lock up here...just looking for the most simple solution. If I use the lock up any more I am having buttons put in the pressure plate.
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posted March 29, 2011 04:35 PM
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Stock springs and a lock up from Cycle Logic ..Best bang for your buck ...Don't mind me i have no clue what i'm talking about ..
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heavy springs get old fast if you ride in traffic, or parades.
there is a reason they outlaw them in certain classes.
Parades? Traffic?? LOL
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posted March 29, 2011 05:12 PM
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Stock springs and a lock up from Cycle Logic ..Best bang for your buck ...Don't mind me i have no clue what i'm talking about ..
My concern is that my motor will be making a lot of power well before those short arms do anything. Stock motor =176 hp....my motor=245 hp...hopefully.
I already have a CL lock up here...just looking for the most simple solution. If I use the lock up any more I am having buttons put in the pressure plate.
It held Jesses at 315 HP on the dyno no problems ..It holds Roys 1530 motor with ease ...You don't need buttons on the clutch hat unless you just want to spend money ..
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posted March 29, 2011 05:13 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 30 Mar 2011 01:16
Roy finally got that CL? 1st time he ever took my advice!! 
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posted March 29, 2011 05:14 PM
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Stock springs and a lock up from Cycle Logic ..Best bang for your buck ...Don't mind me i have no clue what i'm talking about ..
x2
heavy springs get old fast if you ride in traffic, or parades.
there is a reason they outlaw them in certain classes.
Parades? Traffic?? LOL
YOU KNOW a parade lap after you win an event ..OH wait you haven't won anything .. my bad ...
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posted March 29, 2011 05:24 PM
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Roy finally got that CL? 1st time he ever took my advice!!
Yup he got it from me before you got yours .. It took me 2 years to get him to install it ..Also It took me a year to get him to wash the bike... 
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Shane661
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posted March 29, 2011 05:40 PM
Can't blame him there...bought mine on sale in March of 09...but didn't try it for over a year.
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posted March 29, 2011 06:41 PM
Adams setup on the left brocks springs and .280 spacers on the right
The Adams spacers measures .520
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Shane661
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posted March 29, 2011 06:43 PM
Thanks for the photo...
I think I am going to use the CL with long arms and 5 heavy springs...
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posted March 29, 2011 06:47 PM
Can't hurt and that would be cheaper than trying new springs. I think the upgrade kit is like 29.99 from cycle-logic.
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posted March 29, 2011 06:57 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 30 Mar 2011 02:58
Good luck 60 footing with 5 HD springs ... At most i would use is 3 HD springs or 3 brocks spacers .. With 5 HD springs it's going to be light switch , either on or off with no inbetween .. But what the hell do i know ..
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posted March 29, 2011 06:58 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 30 Mar 2011 02:59
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Good luck 60 footing with 5 HD springs ... At most i would use is 3 HD springs or 3 brocks spacers .. With 5 HD springs it going to be light switch ... Either on or off with no inbetween .. But what the hell do i know ..
LSR bike...not looking to "60 foot". Besides, I have done low 1.5's on 5 heavy springs...and that is more than OK for LSR.
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posted March 29, 2011 06:59 PM
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Good luck 60 footing with 5 HD springs ... At most i would use is 3 HD springs or 3 brocks spacers .. With 5 HD springs it going to be light switch ... Either on or off with no inbetween .. But what the hell do i know ..
LSR bike...not looking to "60 foot".
You might one day ..
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posted March 29, 2011 07:01 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 30 Mar 2011 03:13
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Good luck 60 footing with 5 HD springs ... At most i would use is 3 HD springs or 3 brocks spacers .. With 5 HD springs it going to be light switch ... Either on or off with no inbetween .. But what the hell do i know ..
LSR bike...not looking to "60 foot".
You might one day ..
Jesus, Lee....when I do want to 60 foot I will change the setup.....
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posted March 29, 2011 08:10 PM
I'll argue with that one... I cut low 1.4's consistently with 5 heavy springs and my heavy shock spring that everyone also said wouldn't work (with very very little seat time ) . The clutch still slides out fine with them. You just can't be a pansy and have dainty little hands. I will say that running the springs and spacers together would be a terrible Idea lol.
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