posted March 20, 2011 05:58 PM
Zx14 flies Hi guys and ladies, my names Vic I have ones bike bikes all my life. My first street bike was a 1982 550 katana I was 16 . Then I got a 1982 1100 katana the kawasaki gpz 1100 rival . My first ride on a Kawaski was on a gpz 750 turbo, wow I was hooked. I couldn't believe how smooth it was compared to my 1100 katana. After that it was Kari all the way first , 88 zx 10 first year aluminum frame, then a 1992 zx11 to a 1993 zx11. So I just bought a 2009 zx14. The only reason I waited so long was the zx12 came out and I wasn't happy with the new mono cube frame, then the 14 comes out in 2006, again, mono cube frame dam!
So I through in the towel when I seen the burnt orange/ black special addition zx14 and bought it from a local dealer.
Now I'm thinking Muzzy 4 into 1 M14 oval as and power comander V.
Question: should I take out the flies? Extra hp for free, or am I asking for problems?
posted March 20, 2011 06:03 PM
Up to you really, but you wont get much gain pulling them since '08 model reconfig.
Some guys still pull 'em, so if u do yank 'em, get her mapped
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British flying couch with endtables and an orange thumper
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posted March 20, 2011 06:15 PM
What do u think about the Bazzaza I think that's how it's spell it, it's a new power comander?
I heard the bike makes over 25 hp more at 3500 when it's remaped with the flies out. So your saying the 08 and up don't have the doggy dog take off with the factory ecu remaped by Kari so not really necessary to remove?
posted March 20, 2011 06:23 PM
Edited By: Hellmutt on 21 Mar 2011 02:27
I have a PC3 on mine, havent heard good or bad things about the Bazzaz so cant elaborate there. But they should be comparable to PC's units.
Kaw reconfigured the secondaries cycle to open sooner, so there shouldnt be much of a difference between flies in or out on 2008 and later ecu's.......oh, and Welcome to the forum!
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British flying couch with endtables and an orange thumper
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posted March 21, 2011 11:45 AM
I'm really happy I found zx14.com and thank everyone for there info. Thanks Hellmutt for your info.
Question : why are people removing the flies and installing the TRE? Dosent the TRE control the secondary flies? So why install something that controls something that was removed daaa...
Vic
quote:I'm really happy I found zx14.com and thank everyone for there info. Thanks Hellmutt for your info.
Question : why are people removing the flies and installing the TRE? Dosent the TRE control the secondary flies? So why install something that controls something that was removed daaa...
Vic
No need for a TRE at all. Just pull the flies, and get a map made for flies out. The TRE is obsolete.
posted March 21, 2011 12:44 PM
Thanks, exhaust connoisseur. I'm thinking Muzzy M14, to bad gotto order directly from muzzy. What do u think? I really like the sound of a true 4 into 1. My other option without breaking the bank is a yosh M77. The yosh looks cooler but muzzy seems more a kawasaki performance specialty products. Yoshimura seems too me to be more commercial.
posted March 21, 2011 01:22 PM
Yosh looks cooler....lmfao.
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2008 ZX14
Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. ~Mark Twain
posted March 21, 2011 02:02 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 21 Mar 2011 22:05
The M14 makes great power, with great ground clearance as well. Don't hesitate to use one.
For your street use, you probably don't need to bother with the flies on your late model bike! But for the absolute best low-end power you will need to pull them and map accordingly.
Shane
PS. For the record, I have used an M14, Brocks's Shortmeg and CT, and a Brock's TiWinder...so I have some experience with these exhausts.
posted March 21, 2011 03:48 PM
Shane's definitely got one sick bike built there, good basis for any fresh racer to follow so read the build. Vic, you made the right choice in bikes......this is just the beginning of a true companionship with your new pet ____________
British flying couch with endtables and an orange thumper
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posted March 21, 2011 07:02 PM
Hey vic, welcome! I have a 2008 SE.....I have done tons of research and have found that pulling the flies on an 08+ is not worth the hassle for street riding conditions. Also, some people do pull flies as well as run a TRE....I laugh my ass off every time I read about someone doing that.
Your best options are to put on exhaust and map it. I have a bazzaz unit (including autotune) which has worked awesome for me. I would also add a tooth or two to the rear sprocket for low end power....much better than any flies or exhaust power increase.
posted March 22, 2011 07:35 AM
Edited By: 68gts2 on 22 Mar 2011 15:37
Pull the flies for throttle control on any 14 and its just a better riding bike. The Muzzy is a solid choice on exhaust,love mine. Try Lyn at Star Cycles for a killer price on your Muzzy needs. 1-800-990-2453
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Chromed-out,in the dirt 08SE with all the good stuff!!!
posted March 22, 2011 10:16 AM
I pulled them on my 09.I;m running an Alienhead which has 3 maps for no flies.I don"t car what anyone says the flies need to to go.
Craig
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2009 Monster ZX-14
Brocks Alienhead,PCV, flys out,LSL Riser kit,-1 front sprocket,43 Vortex rear sprocket,K&N Air Filter, Zero Gravity tall smoked screen,block off plates,175HP 104 torque
posted March 22, 2011 01:42 PM
flies got to go ? Well that's one modification that doesn't cost anything other than remapping which I got to do anyway with the M14 Muzzy 4 into 1 . ignition advancer and high flo air filter , As for the power commander, it's ether the dyno jet or the all new bazzaz unit.
vic
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