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posted February 18, 2011 01:09 PM
BMW how fast is it?
Im sure some of you are wondering what a BMW S1000rr will do in a average joes hands. We currently have been building this one along with alot of bumps during the way, Just installed a Macintosh +9 in swingarm couldnt go longer due to the rear antilock sensor wire not being long enough. It currently has a full Brocks Shortmeg system. BST wheels with ceramic bearings ordered. Gearing is factory 17 front and up 3 on the rear. Between my buddy and i we have an 07 ZX14 which am waiting on a +10 arm, 08 gsxr 1000 with a +10 arm, and a 07 zx10 with a +8 arm. They all are full Brocks shortmegs.I will post up results from the first test and tune end of March weather permitting ofcourse.
  
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tshultz
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posted February 18, 2011 01:30 PM
you going to numidia to test and tune? if so I'll show up.
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pazx14rider
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posted February 18, 2011 03:07 PM
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you going to numidia to test and tune? if so I'll show up.
Not Numidia were shooting for Beaver Springs they have test and tune last sat and sunday of march. Numidia doesnt open till the following friday
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posted February 18, 2011 04:36 PM
a friend of mine just got a bmw as well and he plans on racing it alot
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posted February 18, 2011 04:48 PM
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pazx14rider
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posted February 18, 2011 04:54 PM
Looks like were going to have to cut down the sidestand cant find an aftermarket lowered or adjustable if anyone finds one let me know.
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smokinZX14
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posted February 18, 2011 07:12 PM
You going to make it fair ? Better buy some BST for the zx14s .. I can tell you this , a female rider that had never been in the 8s on any bike ran 8.60s on the BMW owned by BMW .. Not Brocks tunned bike but a bike put together by BMW using Brocks parts and running MR12..
I have gone 8.70s on pump gas with both my zx14s .. Chad has gone 8.60s on his zx14 with MR9 ..
The bikes with the same Mods and rider will run within a tenth of a second of each other ..It will come down to who got the hole shot if everthing else is equal ..
I will help you a bit with your BMW .. Gear it so you use all 6 gears in the 1/4 mile ..The two fastest BMWs out there are geared that way ..
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pazx14rider
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posted February 18, 2011 08:16 PM
 Edited By: pazx14rider on 19 Feb 2011 04:18
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You going to make it fair ? Better buy some BST for the zx14s .. I can tell you this , a female rider that had never been in the 8s on any bike ran 8.60s on the BMW owned by BMW .. Not Brocks tunned bike but a bike put together by BMW using Brocks parts and running MR12..
I have gone 8.70s on pump gas with both my zx14s .. Chad has gone 8.60s on his zx14 with MR9 ..
The bikes with the same Mods and rider will run within a tenth of a second of each other ..It will come down to who got the hole shot if everthing else is equal ..
I will help you a bit with your BMW .. Gear it so you use all 6 gears in the 1/4 mile ..The two fastest BMWs out there are geared that way ..
Your right about the BST's Smokin, the 14 is going to have to wait for BST's i just bought a new enclosed trailer and 2 Mac arms this winter so im kinda tapped out right now. Im sure you or Shane can add how much a difference BST's with ceramic bearings make? As far as the gearing we contacted Brocks and are running the same gearing as Christine. All bikes are will run on 87 pump gas. We are currently trying to figure out how to configure a push button shift through the horn to activate the stock factory shifter. might have to put an air shifter on and make our own bracket .We got the factory service CD but to no evail no wireing in it whatsoever so waste of $100 We had the BMW to the track last year stock height, and length and couldnt do anything with it. It wanted to wheelie all the way down the track.
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posted February 18, 2011 09:33 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 19 Feb 2011 05:33
Keep us posted 
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posted February 18, 2011 11:15 PM
Dollar to dollar the ZX14 is the best bike for drag racing . The BMW is the better Twisty track bike for the money.
How fast for racing takes money skill & time with all that the beemer can be very tough playa..
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zxrider11
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posted February 21, 2011 03:59 AM
Edited By: zxrider11 on 21 Feb 2011 12:00
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Looks like were going to have to cut down the sidestand cant find an aftermarket lowered or adjustable if anyone finds one let me know.
Check out Soupy's performance website for adjustable kickstands:
http://www.soupysperformance.com/homepage.html
They make custom applications, you can email him soupy@soupysperformance.com
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01smokes
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posted February 21, 2011 07:56 AM
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Dollar to dollar the ZX14 is the best bike for drag racing . The BMW is the better Twisty track bike for the money.
How fast for racing takes money skill & time with all that the beemer can be very tough playa..
Negative ghost rider the best is the gen2 booza. But I Well admit I would rather ride a 14...
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posted February 21, 2011 05:48 PM
Edited By: JSmooth on 22 Feb 2011 01:50
01smokes I'm eager to hear how and why you think as you do? All the booza's I've seen at the tracks to include Valdosta Ga, Concord Motorsport Park, Denton TX " Northstar Drag Strip" just to name a few the 14 has taken most of the races. Now the booza's have won a couple but when pitted with evenly modded 14 it was the 14 out front and booza's shaking their heads having excuses. Hey don't shoot the messenger just telling you what I saw and my buddies on booza's asking what happened? By the way my apologies to person of this subject for the interruption. Good read though
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posted February 21, 2011 06:59 PM
the busas don't do shit on the west coast either...
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IMFASTTOO
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posted February 21, 2011 07:09 PM
OH BAWLS FAST 109 has an old ZX12 hed like to race YOU with
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01smokes
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posted February 21, 2011 09:51 PM
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01smokes I'm eager to hear how and why you think as you do? All the booza's I've seen at the tracks to include Valdosta Ga, Concord Motorsport Park, Denton TX " Northstar Drag Strip" just to name a few the 14 has taken most of the races. Now the booza's have won a couple but when pitted with evenly modded 14 it was the 14 out front and booza's shaking their heads having excuses. Hey don't shoot the messenger just telling you what I saw and my buddies on booza's asking what happened? By the way my apologies to person of this subject for the interruption. Good read though
well i have both thats why i said it, MY genII stock motor vs MY 14 stock motor the booza would have killed it, ya my 14 is faster and quicker for now just because i havent taken the booza to the track to make a pass yet, but i cant compare them now anyways the 14 is turboed and the booza is a nitrous bike
but mod for mod MY booza is faster and quicker than MY 14
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posted February 22, 2011 09:15 AM
Edited By: JSmooth on 22 Feb 2011 17:21
I guess it comes down to who is riding each and I for one don't get caught up in the biased based motorcycle mags that are trying to help Suzuki sell their bikes. I will tell you take it the track and have two experienced riders of each ride them or if your not partial to either and would just like to know then do it yourself. However the case maybe you will be partial imo towards hype over fact and not run one harder than the next. JMO, I am not one to judge either as I would never cross over I love my 14 and will race anyone with a Booza of equal mods so if want I can run your 14 and you run Booza im 205 suited I will give you a fair assessment.
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posted February 22, 2011 09:26 AM
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I guess it comes down to who is riding each and I for one don't get caught up in the biased based motorcycle mags that are trying to help Suzuki sell their bikes. I will tell you take it the track and have two experienced riders of each ride them or if your not partial to either and would just like to know then do it yourself. However the case maybe you will be partial imo towards hype over fact and not run one harder than the next. JMO, I am not one to judge either as I would never cross over I love my 14 and will race anyone with a Booza of equal mods so if want I can run your 14 and you run Booza im 205 suited I will give you a fair assessment.
So what mods on your 14 and what do you run
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posted February 22, 2011 09:51 AM
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the busas don't do shit on the west coast either...
The out west busa sure are slow I only kicked the shit out of bawls about 100 time on mine.
Hell truth be told I'm the reason he quit drag racing.
Truth be told the fasted bike stock setup I mean as it comes from the store now lowering, no strap nothing is the Busa only because it lower and longer than the 14. The BMW is to light and wheelie prone as it sits from the factory. Now after moding well the busa is still the fastest cause there is allot of stuff out there for it . The 14 and BMW haven't caut up yet. Now in the middle of stock and all out mods. Its anybodys game. So If you wan't to play in the middle just get what you like and have fun.
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posted February 22, 2011 10:02 AM
And he said dollar for dollar not the better bike lol the ecu alone on the genII puts the bike above the rest of the other bikes. Than they have motors that can be turned into fuckin mountain motors and everyone and there mom makes parts for them the aftermarket is huge. And parts are cheap. That's why its the best bike dollar for dollar in drag racing.
Ya you can slap on some extentions and a pipe on ether and run the same numbers. But what happens when you wanna go faster than bolt on's that's where the booza will start to shine a lot brighter than all the others.
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posted February 22, 2011 10:27 AM
@ Bently- The only mods ive done to mine are brock smeg, pcv, bmc af, 16/43 lowered front and rear, extend 68 in, flies out, block offs, brock spacers and clutch springs currently in the shop now for 2mil piston kit, and few extra goodies!! Havent been to the track since October last year last time out ran 9.1's 9.23. Trying to break into the 8's. I think I will hit that and lower. Thought about velocity stacks but im not sure yet.
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posted February 22, 2011 11:43 AM
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@ Bently- The only mods ive done to mine are brock smeg, pcv, bmc af, 16/43 lowered front and rear, extend 68 in, flies out, block offs, brock spacers and clutch springs currently in the shop now for 2mil piston kit, and few extra goodies!! Havent been to the track since October last year last time out ran 9.1's 9.23. Trying to break into the 8's. I think I will hit that and lower. Thought about velocity stacks but im not sure yet.
well I'm 215 suited and on stock motorgen2 at 64 inches ran 9.07 on 92 pump gas with a 1.46 60 ft if that bike was 68 inches or I had few more passes on it I would go 8.90's. Did go 8.80 with a 20 shot
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posted February 22, 2011 12:44 PM
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Dollar to dollar the ZX14 is the best bike for drag racing . The BMW is the better Twisty track bike for the money.
How fast for racing takes money skill & time with all that the beemer can be very tough playa..
but who pulls up parts receiepts and debates who paid what at the end of the quarter?
speed costs, how fast do we go?
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posted February 22, 2011 12:45 PM
the 68in is new so I'm thinking about if whether or not it will be a good fit with the 16/43. Had it originally at 64 I guess I should've clarified that then, Im replying thru my cell phone. That is why I stated trying to break into the 8's and so forth.
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posted February 22, 2011 03:41 PM
Just leaving the shop going to stick with the 64in still waiting to get the piston kit in.
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