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posted January 21, 2011 09:28 PM
 Edited By: Rook on 22 Jan 2011 05:36
Would you buy these levers?
http://www.rideitmoto.com/products.php?id=69
The price is definitely great compared to Pazzos. I could get a set of longs and shorts for less than 1 set of Pazzos.... but how does the weight/feel/performance/quality compare? Looks like these are exact copies of Pazzo levers, AFAICT. The JPEG below was even named pazzo_measurements(1) by who ever created the file.
I don't recall hearing much if anything about these. I'm a little skeptical. Any ideas?
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posted January 21, 2011 09:31 PM
That's cheap
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posted January 21, 2011 09:38 PM
Edited By: Rook on 22 Jan 2011 05:41
I don't see how they could suck unless they don't fit. That would be a pisser. Levers are levers are levers as long as they fit? IDK? these babies even come with a set of free hand grips with rubber and matching anodized metal accent. Sharp looking. Another knock off of a more expensive product I was looking at. What about the levers? Are these going to be horrible?
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posted January 21, 2011 09:52 PM
Suppose material quality could be an issue? If the brake lever snaps off in yer hand you could have a wee problem.
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posted January 21, 2011 09:54 PM
Ride it also makes a set of levers that has adjustable length. $99 + $18 shipping, they throw in free matching grips with these too. They look less sporty but the length adjustment seems like it could be a great idea. And cheap!  
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posted January 21, 2011 09:55 PM
Edited By: Rook on 22 Jan 2011 05:58
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Suppose material quality could be an issue? If the brake lever snaps off in yer hand you could have a wee problem.
That would be one of those situations that i would consider the aforementioned "pisser." Oh what a pisser that would be.
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posted January 21, 2011 10:37 PM
I bought a set for my CBX cause they made em !
The adjusters are'nt real smooth, all the hardware was loose. You can tighten em
up a bit but too much and they go into a bind - but they look good on the bike !
We get what we pay for.
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posted January 21, 2011 10:45 PM
I have a set on order.
Will let you know how they are when they get here.
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posted January 21, 2011 11:02 PM
Edited By: Rook on 22 Jan 2011 07:05
You jumped on it too quick. SHould have gone for these babies, jlewis. Damn. I might buy 2 sets for each bike. maybe
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Clutch-Brake-Levers-Kawasaki-ZX1400-ZX14R-ZZR1400-06-10-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3f064ed88cQQitemZ270688770188QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_9432wt_1013
I really don't see how aluminum is going to break under hand pressure. A fall, yes. If I snap one in my mighty grip, it would be the brake. The clutch you only pull so hard and it is all the way. No point in pulling any harder. I don't know much about metal but from what i am reading posted on other forums, there would be no way to cast aluminum and anodize it to a nice finish. These must be CNCed as are Pazzos or other big name brand levers.
No reason to be afraid of Chinese levers on your Japanese bike.
Bob is probably right about adjustability but these are soooo cheap.
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posted January 21, 2011 11:21 PM
I ordered mine last week they are still on the way.
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posted January 21, 2011 11:54 PM
Good luck. I don't think you can lose at these prices. If they feel sloppy as heck, just chuck 'em and buy some Pazzos when you see a nice deal. Personally, I think it is a worthwhile investment just to find out how you like the feel. I think a shorty brake and regular clutch would be best setup for me but if I can get by with both shorties, I'd do it. With these prices, I can buy a regular set and a short set and I'm still money ahead.
The Chinese lever company is rated 99.1% positive feedback on Ebay, FWIW. They have a lot of other stuff too. I see at least one other knock off. Makes me wonder if they are making the same stuff we pay big bucks to have the name on.
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posted January 22, 2011 05:40 AM
All kidding aside Rook but I just had major issues with those cheap levers on two different ZX14s. The quality of the lever is fine, the problem lies where the master cylinder pin goes into the lever. Those levers on EBAY will not allow the pin to fully extend which in turn causes clutch slippage under a load. For street riding you would not notice it but it would wear a clutch out fast, espeacially once it has a little wear on it. I pulled my clutch cover and tried to push in the release bearing and could not even do it with those levers on. I had to remove the lever to release the pressure. I literally threw them away on both mine and one of the 14s I ride. Hope this helps.
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posted January 22, 2011 07:55 AM
I've heard of a simular problem on the ZRX board with these levers. I believe they just drilled the whole out a little to allow the pin to fit it correctly.
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posted January 22, 2011 08:15 AM
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I've heard of a simular problem on the ZRX board with these levers. I believe they just drilled the whole out a little to allow the pin to fit it correctly.
I did that and it seemed to work better but I just decided to eliminate the risk factor so I tossed em.
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posted January 22, 2011 07:15 PM
Heard a very similar sounding story from a guy on my other 14 forum. He put cut rate levers on his bike and as they wore, the clutch started to slip.
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The aftermarket lever piston pins were wearing down.Put my stock levers back on....clutch was PERFECTO again!
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Now I am apprehensive a bit. I know nothing at all about how the clutch brake mechanism works by the levers. never had them apart, never lubed moving parts yet. The Ebay levers are cheap enough. I might give them a try and see what I can figure out biut I see where this is going.....you save money on cheap solution and spend big on time to make it work.
Thank you LeonidasZX14. I'll post that around the other couple boards I am working this topic on.
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posted January 24, 2011 07:54 AM
quote:
All kidding aside Rook but I just had major issues with those cheap levers on two different ZX14s. The quality of the lever is fine, the problem lies where the master cylinder pin goes into the lever. Those levers on EBAY will not allow the pin to fully extend which in turn causes clutch slippage under a load. For street riding you would not notice it but it would wear a clutch out fast, espeacially once it has a little wear on it. I pulled my clutch cover and tried to push in the release bearing and could not even do it with those levers on. I had to remove the lever to release the pressure. I literally threw them away on both mine and one of the 14s I ride. Hope this helps.
Same problem here... they feel like they dont let the pin push itself back out all the way.. im gonna try and drill out mine as well and see if that helps... quality is just as good as the crg levers thou
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posted January 24, 2011 09:15 AM
Edited By: gumbybob on 24 Jan 2011 17:15
Same problem here with the ASV clutch lever. Worked fine for a few hundred miles, then the clutch slipped bad under load. I put the stock lever back on and it was fine after.
I was thinking perhaps I just tightened the screw & nut too tightly on the ASV lever when I assembled it and caused the lever to bind in the mechanism.
Could this be a possibility????
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posted January 25, 2011 04:17 AM
use Vortex......mine helped me control the clutch a whole lot!!!
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posted January 25, 2011 06:15 AM
I stuck with the OE levers on the 14 but fitted Pazzo shorties on my Fireblade and they're very good quality.
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posted January 25, 2011 03:56 PM
Do NOT buy them.
They don't fit right save your money and get a good brand.
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posted January 25, 2011 06:21 PM
SH!t........
Thanks jlewis. oh this sucks. I was about to order. FERk, I guess I better start taking my own advice and buy what is most highly recommended--not what is cheap.
Well, thanks for passing along the word.
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posted January 26, 2011 06:20 AM
dunno, I have the Pazzo's and they are spot on and fit/finish is awesome. Some things you do get what you pay for.
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posted January 26, 2011 07:10 AM
Don't know what to think.....I heard a conflicting report on the Ride It levers. Somebody is saying his set of shorties fits fine. Maybe they sent you the wrong set, jlewis----or maybe it is an issue with the regular levers if that is what you purchased.
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posted January 26, 2011 07:54 AM
I've never used shorty levers, what's the big draw? I think they look wimpy. Just asking.
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posted January 26, 2011 08:51 AM
Edited By: Rook on 26 Jan 2011 16:59
lol---I guess I can see where you're coming from on the "wimpy" look. They do have a delicate appearance but that, I believe, is exactly the idea.... The shorty is designed for a more sensitive feel with two finger levering. I have not been race track trained but it would seem the two finger brake control allows for very quick transition between braking and throttle----you have pinky and ring finger on the gas and pointer and middle on the brake lever. That I have seen in racing vids.
Now, I have heard a couple guys like a standard length clutch lever because the 14 is a bit stiff and two finger clutching can be cumbersome. Those guys liked a standard clutch and a shorty brake.
Another thing about aftermarket levers is the adjustability. The stockers---have you ever played with the adjustment? Doesn't seem to do a thing for changing the lever travel AFAIC. The aftermarkets would hopefully make a more dramatic change between stops on the small adjuster 1-2-3-4-5.
I imagine there is little improvement with an after market lever for street riding. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it took some getting used to. but it's fun to have the race stuff on there if it doesn't render the bike unstreetable.
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