Rook
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posted December 15, 2010 12:46 PM
This looks pretty unanimous. Don't bother with non-sealed roller chains. I am looking at weight a little bit. At this point, $50-$60 doesn't matter. I've spent hours in resaerch who cares about a few bucks. Just need a chain on there I am going to feel good about because it will be on there for a long time. Thanks for all helpful opinions, everyone.
  
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Rook
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posted December 20, 2010 08:50 PM
Is the EK 530 ZZZ and 530 ZVX an o-ring chain or an x-ring chain? I see some conflicting info. They are referred to as o-ring chains by some suppliers but then when I read the details, they say that they have "Quad-X rings." (Look at the photo I posted above.) Which one is it ? X-ring or O-ring?
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eklipse636
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posted December 21, 2010 02:22 AM
Man.... Just buy the damn chain. It's the best one you can buy. Or read on ek's website on what a x ring is. It's a orange thats not round, it helps hold the lube on the rollers.
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Ozonkiller
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posted December 21, 2010 04:35 PM
A warmed up o-ring chain uses no more horsepower than a non o-ring chain. I read it once in one of the cycle mags and I personally verified it on a dyno jet dyno.
That's why drag racers and LSR guys use non o-ring chains. There is so little run time that the o-ring chain never gets a chance to warm up.
Non o-ring chains are lighter is not necessarily true, my non o-ring chain weighs about half a pound more than my stock chain.
Just buy the freakin' o-ring chain and enjoy your bike.
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eklipse636
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posted December 21, 2010 04:58 PM
I don't know about a print chain having less resistance when warmed up, never heard that.
Rook, if your that worried about how much it weights convert it down to a 525, that should get you the weight loss you want.
Its notguaranteed to break, just guaranteed to be lighter.
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Rook
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posted December 21, 2010 08:05 PM
 Edited By: Rook on 22 Dec 2010 04:24
I'm not exactly sure what chain pitch even is so i don't want to mess with that. I think I will stick to the 530 chain pitch like stock. The 525 is rated for 600 cc - 1000. I'll feel safe with a 530 which is rated for big bore. ~5 lbs is what 120 link is going to weigh. Saw that as the shipping weight for the EK ZVX which has just a bit less strength than the ZZZ. ZZZ is 4.78/100 links--same/same. I'm not fretting over weight much. It's rotating mass but a strong chain is more important.
Ozonkiller:
"A warmed up o-ring chain uses no more horsepower than a non o-ring chain. I read it once in one of the cycle mags and I personally verified it on a dyno jet dyno."
I have heard that and I think I posted a question about that earlier. Thanks for testimony.
I know what an x-ring is, eklipse636. X-rings are supposed to seal better and the links are not as tightly pressed together which allows the chain to articulate more freely. I just want to make sure that is what I will be getting. EK's website is under construction. R. Schnitz gave me this roundabout answer:
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"There are two types of motorcycle chains. “O-ring” and “Non O-ring”.
The term O-ring is defined as: A ring (as of synthetic rubber) used as a gasket.
Link - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/o-ring
Weather it’s an “X” ring, “W” ring or “O” ring they are all shaped in a circle “O”.
The ZVX chain is an O-ring chain with a Quadra X shape."
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In an a Quadra X shape? I guess he's telling me "yeah, the ZZZ is an x-ring chain. That is all I want to hear someone say.
eklipse636:
"It's a orange thats not round, it helps hold the lube on the rollers. "
I'm taking you at your word, eklipse. You're telling me it has orange seals that are not the typical round shape if you viewed a cross section slice. Probably has splines that run the circumference? That's an x-ring. So that's what I'll get. Thanks for input again.
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posted December 22, 2010 04:15 PM
Edited By: Rook on 23 Dec 2010 00:18
Thanks for the tip, TH1RT3EN! I picked this up on Ebay. Free shipping. Great deal. The supplier I was thinking of ordering from only had it in 120 pins and that was more expensive than this one. Should have all I need to pull the wheel back as far as I want it. Hope it comes with the master link. Ad doesn't say so but I imagine it does.
If anyone else wants to order, you have until December 31.
EK ZZZ 530 Chain 130 Link chrome plated $171.96 Shipped
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EK-530-ZZZ-0-Stretch-Motorcycle-Chain-130-Links-Chrome-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem56414310e1QQitemZ370462101729QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
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eklipse636
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posted December 22, 2010 05:14 PM
Orange=oring spell correct on a iPhone.
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