Shane661
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posted December 13, 2010 11:58 AM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Dec 2010 20:21
- OSR 10R Wheel Kit Issues -
A while back I purchased a complete set of 06-07 10R wheels with brakes and rotors, for Racheal's 14. I also purchased the adapter kit from OSR:
After swapping the bearings, I attempted to install the rear wheel. It would not fit. After some investigation, I found that the sprocket carrier was offset to the right:
The 10R carrier is on the left, the 14 carrier on the right. You can see the sprockets do not align.
After contacting the vendor, he measured his drive side spacer to be within .00x of mine. The offset is around .100, so there is obviously something else going on here.
Here is the measurement of the 10R carrier, and drive-side spacer that I have:
The vendor did work with me for some time, but I think he has lost interest as I have not been contacted in some time via pm or email. I know of 2 other board members who have had issue installing this kit.
At this point I have already had to purchase new bearings, since I had to remove and install the supplied ones several times to verify installation, and take measurements. Aside from that, I would like to get to the bottom of this issue, and figure out what is causing this problem.
If someone has a verified 2006-2007 10R carrier, can you please measure it? I know of one board member who actually swapped some wheels to a guy with an 06-07, and had the same issue as me. He had to machine his spacer down.
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1badzx12r
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posted December 13, 2010 12:29 PM
some of the reason i shit can the swap on my bike .. to much mis-matching parts ..
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posted December 13, 2010 01:18 PM
Shane - I still don't know what to say on this matter -- i have known of 2 issues yours and 1 other guys -- everything the 2 of you have told us or showed us have matched what we have here +or- a few thousandths. the first guyed and we talked for probably close to 1 hour mearusing everything to be sure it was the same -
For you I took my rear wheel off pulled all bearings and spacers out and checked them against yours and the stock we had on the shelf.
I didn't loose interest in this project -- 2 of the last few emails I replied back to said to send me what measurement you need and we will either remachine yours or send a new spacer down -- if we can't find a problem I can't fix it.
WE have sold close to 15 of these kits I would say and never had a problem --
Here are 2 of the emails stating that I said send your measurements so I cna remake a spacer -- so far I havne't gotten anything?
We do our best to make sure all our customers are satisfied with every product we sell or engine we build.
Shannon Clem to Shane
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measure the difference and we will make a new one for you -- not sure on the bearing thing -- we used 1 supplier at first and changed -- I did measure mine(first supplier) vs what we sell now and they were the same -- not sure if some came through that were different ?
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Shane wrote:
Here are the pics; 10R carrier on left. Sprockets are same thickness, for clarity's sake.
Shane
and then:
Shannon Clem to Shane
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SHane -- sorry about not getting that measurement today -- i was swamped and never got my wheel back off -- i will try to get it in the morning.
If you tell me what size you need that spacer made -- or I will make it to the size of what mine is -- Just let me know.
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Shane661
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posted December 13, 2010 01:23 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Dec 2010 21:30
Shannon, I sent you the measurement of the carrier on the 24th of November. I did not get a reply. I also informed of this again about 10 days ago via pm.
I want to know what is wrong...is it my carrier? Initially you were offering to machine the right side spacer so that everything would fit. Well, after me spending time measuring everything, I found that it is on the left/drive side that has the issues.
There are definitely at least 3 people who have had this issue, that I know of.
I wonder if some others have simply shaved the drive side spacer, without informing you? Or perhaps some are operating with misaligned wheels. I know you intiially told me that I might need to spread my swingarm to make it fit, since i have extensions.
Shane
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Bently
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posted December 13, 2010 01:23 PM
I'm very interested in the out come as this is the route I was going to go when I get another 14
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osr
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posted December 13, 2010 01:29 PM
i got the measurement of your spacer -- i need ot know how much you want taken off of it.
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Shane661
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posted December 13, 2010 01:31 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Dec 2010 21:41
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i got the measurement of your spacer -- i need ot know how much you want taken off of it.
The issue is...why should it need any taken off of it? What is causing this misalignment for multiple customers?
Simply machining one spacer to "fit" the assembly does not necessarily mean that it is properly aligned.
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posted December 13, 2010 04:04 PM
I bought a kit from OSR and had a problem with fitment also, I ended up maching some off the spacer and everything lined up well. At first I thought I might not be looking at things right and called OSR on two different occasions and left messages but never heard back.
I just wrote it off as them being busy and I fixed the problem.
It was a simple fix for me as everything lined up okay and I ran the bike almost 198 at Maxton.
Since I would be using the bike for some racing events I chose not to use the Chinese bearings supplied, they may be fine but I wanted something with a better quality.
When I called Shane about the kit he told me they were Chinese bearings so that was not an issue.
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Bently
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posted December 13, 2010 04:17 PM
I'm sure Shannon(osr) will make it right he's always got right back with me when i have bought stuff from him. I will use him in the future.
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oldkawboy
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posted December 13, 2010 04:30 PM
I'm not bashing his integrity or character, just stating what happened with me.
As a business man I'm confident he would make things right but I was on a time schedule and moved on.
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Shane661
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posted December 13, 2010 05:19 PM
I just want to know why the spacing is off; that is why I have posted the pics of my measurements. I know I can turn the spacer down; but I'd rather know what combination of parts is causing this issue.
Of course, I need everything to be precise...especially at LSR speeds.
That could help some other people. I am sure Shannon is interested also, so hopefully someone can measure their parts. 
Shane
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osr
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posted December 13, 2010 08:00 PM
Old Kawboy -- i wasn't aware you called and for som e reason didn't get your messages -- I am sorry -- I try to return all calls at the end of the day or the beginning of the next day.
As far as others not lining up -- I don't know -- my bike hasn't had any issues and we made this kit off my bike????
As for the problems I don't know -- i do have another set of 14 wheels and swingarm that we can look at to see if we see anything there.
As far as making you another spacer to correct the problem -- We will make it -- if the chain is lined up it is lined up -- so just tell us what thickness you need. I don't land speed but my bike has been 8.20 @170 with no problems -- -
Somewhere something is F'd up and we can't figure out what it is -- everything seems to measure correct???? we will keep looking.
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posted December 16, 2010 08:56 PM
Edited By: MADDOGC5 on 17 Dec 2010 04:58
hey guys im just asking but is the 10r and 14 sprockets the same? are they both 530. could that be the issue? i thought the 10r had a 525 chain/sprocket and the 14 had a 530.. it the carrier being used in the 10r wheels from a 10r or isit the 14 carrier
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eklipse636
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posted December 17, 2010 02:22 AM
I'm pretty sure you use a zx12 sprocket for the rear and that converts it to 530
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osr
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posted December 17, 2010 06:44 AM
yes the sprockets are different -- but vortex makes a 530 conversion for the zx10 but it is technically the same as te zx12 and some year zx7's
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1badzx12r
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posted December 24, 2010 08:38 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 24 Dec 2010 16:42
ok i'm not using an OSR kit . but in my findings MY 08 zx10 wheel measured from outside of sprocket to outside of rotor is a 1/4 inch shorter than a zx14 wheel measured that way .. looks like its in the carriers are differant in depth ..
I HAVE A ZX12 SPROCKET ON THE ZX10 WHEEL TO MEASURE WITH
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posted December 29, 2010 09:25 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 29 Dec 2010 17:27
haha i did it.. using all zx14 parts but the wheel
i used a zx14 rotor and caliber with bracket.. found the bearings from a parts store . i like it as my spare for the 008 slick tire wheel when i run it..
total change out time between DOT tire and non DOT tire at track 10 minutes
i have not found dust seals tho but they are not needed for what i'm gonna just use it for
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posted March 10, 2011 06:13 PM
1bad can you give me some info on how you did this
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