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smokinZX14


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posted November 27, 2010 07:50 PM        
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Yeah i noticed you can't even stay in the seat LMAO!! I also noticed that obviously lose chain. You spent alot of money to look stupid didn't you? I demand an apology for being insulted as a rider by not even taking the time to tightening your chain before the run. But you know what I'll let it slide this time. I been doing 200mph longer than you been riding. And like the other guy said you might look cool with your extended swingarm ( I saw the weld job) but any real rider would trash that junk.



Shane your chain is loose ...lol..lol
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ZX14Mike


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posted November 27, 2010 07:51 PM        
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There sure are alot of pictures and evidence of zx14's blowing up for no good reason out there for you to say I'm making it all up. Why are there so many posts about oiling issues that need to be addressed with the 14's? Why all the pictures of rods and parts slung completely through the cases? Why the deaths? You saying that my claim of a young man being killed is a Lie? My claim of nearly being sucked up under a rig is a Lie? Is That what you're implying? Or you simply saying that my post is not warranted because of all the bikes that were built correctly? That comment made no sense. And further more I never asked you to sell your bike or "work of art" as you call it. I simply wanted to make a post that people who have had severe failures could speak up and explain their situation. You guys are really upset about this aren't you? I'm sorry but it's the truth and it's what happened to me. Would I like to have one built right? Hell yeah I would I loved that bike. But I simply feel this one is unsafe and so does the tech. And he builds them everyday while you sit here and but in when you obviously haven't had this problem before. MAYBE I SHOULD TITLE THIS " IF YOUR ZX14 IS BUILT RIGHT THEN SEE THE NEXT THREAD" "MY ZX14 NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE" How's that? TOUGH SHIT!!!!!!! ZX14's ARE DEATH TRAPS!



Hey Einstein if there is SO MUCH evidence of all this crap your CLAIMING how bout you produce some evidence.........you keep babbling about facts and evidence but I havent seen a a single shred of factual evidence to back up your alleged CLAIMS........I mean if there is so much evidence it should be pretty easy for you to support your CLAIMS with facts right?

Funny though isnt it how you CLAIM we should PROVE you are lying not the other way around.........kinda like the sleazy lawyer asking the man to prove he "doesnt" beat his wife., Why do trolls ALWAYS run from facts.....facts to a troll are like holy water to a vampire!!!!!...............you say theres a whole 3 ZX 14's out of how many thousands produced that had bearing failure............how bout YOU prove thats more than any of the BMW's, Busa's or Hondas out there that have bearing failures..........3 friggin ZX 14's doesnt sound like a lot to me..................The REAL question though is I'm wondering if we can find 3 BMW techs who think wind and rain can damage internal components?

I'll bet there are more Elvis or Yeti sights than there are ZX 14 bearing failures


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smokinZX14


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posted November 27, 2010 07:53 PM        Edited By: smokinZX14 on 28 Nov 2010 03:55
BMW rods hanging out !! OH MY ...lol Better sue BMW right now !!!



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ZX14Mike


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posted November 27, 2010 07:55 PM        
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BMW rods hanging out !! OH MY ...lol






That wind and rain can be vicious to engines

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total_chaos


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posted November 27, 2010 08:03 PM        Edited By: total_chaos on 28 Nov 2010 04:11
I didn't say 3 some other guy did. If you quit crying and wipe your tears you will be able to read better ok son. Everything will be ok and since you asked nicely I will go and get every picture and every post of all the forums for you ok. No seriously moron go check for yourself and you will have all the facts.

Fact: zx14 failures are in many forums and many posts

Fact: Kawasaki Customer Service has a very bad rep. Spoken also in many forums and articles

Fact: Most of the posers,Oops i mean posters in this forum have built what they ride and stay on the track

Fact: It is not for me to prove that they are a failure, but for you to prove I just made all this up and Kawasaki is paying $8000.00 for something I intentionally sabotaged.

Fact: You're feelings are hurt so you're talking in tongues with References to Elvis and Yeti, while I Produced all the facts and evidence and a Multi-Billion dollar Corporation seemed to be satisfied you still claim FRAUD FRAU FRAUD!!!

Fact: ZX14's have 2 Outstanding recalls that could lead to serious injury or loss of life.

Need more?


I'll check back in Tomorrow to see what the masses have spoken. I need to get some sleep while you go outside and reconsider that next ride. Thank You so much for making my post so famous so fast. It's on the second Page on google, I'm hoping you guys make it the first page by tomorrow. Until then I'll be getting more paperwork and statements together and publishing a full article on the zx14's Pressure to take over the industry causing total mechanical neglect. I will be doing live interviews on You tube for all to see lol

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INTIMIDA2OR


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posted November 27, 2010 08:10 PM        

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ZX14Mike


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posted November 27, 2010 08:12 PM        
Like I said not a single answer to a question or a single Fact to back up your BS babbling unsubstantiated CLAIMS just the unsubstantiated crap your typing troll...............see I'm not going to waste a minute of my time trying to disprove the ramblings of an incoherent dishonest idiot I got better things to do with my time........ thats your job boy.............typical troll though asking others to disprove their incoherrent BS rather than actually providing real facts to support what they say.

See you need to actually produce the mountains of evidence YOU CLAIM you have not just say its out there.

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Shane661


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posted November 27, 2010 08:12 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Nov 2010 04:13
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I didn't say 3 some other guy did. If you quit crying and wipe your tears you will be able to read better ok son. Everything will be ok and since you asked nicely I will go and get every picture and every post of all the forums for you ok. No seriously moron go check for yourself and you will have all the facts.

Fact: zx14 failures are in many forums and many posts

Fact: Kawasaki Customer Service has a very bad rep. Spoken also in many forums and articles

Fact: Most of the posers,Oops i mean posters in this forum have built what they ride and stay on the track

Fact: It is not for me to prove that they are a failure, but for you to prove I just made all this up and Kawasaki is paying $8000.00 for something I intentionally sabotaged.

Fact: You're feelings are hurt so you're talking in tongues with References to Elvis and Yeti, while I Produced all the facts and evidence and a Multi-Billion dollar Corporation seemed to be satisfied you still claim FRAUD FRAU FRAUD!!!

Fact: ZX14's have 2 Outstanding recalls that could lead to serious injury or loss of life.



FACT: YOU SUCK RHINO COCK.

http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=59031&set_time=

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total_chaos


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posted November 27, 2010 08:13 PM        
Intimida2or They made me do it :P I'm gonna be E-famous
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ryn0cer0s


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posted November 27, 2010 08:30 PM        
Shane, could you leave the Rhino out of this? A little too close to Ryno for my comfort.
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total_chaos


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posted November 27, 2010 08:31 PM        
I'll leave you guys with this from Psychobike . com


Default Bad rod bearing

Ok guys, my bike had the rod bearing fail and now I want to fix it and fix it right. So what has everyone else done that has had this samethihng happen???

My bike is a 06 and a friend of mine called me last night and his 07 did the same thing, two ZX14 that had rod bearing fail. WTH is going on with the ZX14???

Nither bike has never had NOS shot thru it. So what is causing this to happen???

Doc.


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INTIMIDA2OR


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posted November 27, 2010 08:33 PM        
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Intimida2or They made me do it :P I'm gonna be E-famous



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Shane661


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posted November 27, 2010 08:33 PM        
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Shane, could you leave the Rhino out of this? A little too close to Ryno for my comfort.



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dakota9498


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posted November 27, 2010 08:36 PM        
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I'll leave you guys with this from Psychobike . com


Default Bad rod bearing

Ok guys, my bike had the rod bearing fail and now I want to fix it and fix it right. So what has everyone else done that has had this samethihng happen???

My bike is a 06 and a friend of mine called me last night and his 07 did the same thing, two ZX14 that had rod bearing fail. WTH is going on with the ZX14???

Nither bike has never had NOS shot thru it. So what is causing this to happen???

Doc.




Uh-oh, a guy had something wrong with his bike and one of his friends confirmed it...that's it, its a little too real for me now, I am selling my bike as soon as I get up tomorrow...screw that, i am listing it on craigslist right now.
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total_chaos


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posted November 27, 2010 08:36 PM        



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posted November 24, 2010 10:39 AM I have had all years come into the shop with #3 rod shot..all from bone stock to highly modified..some guys are luck and others are not so lucky...
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total_chaos


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posted November 27, 2010 08:37 PM        
Look man the evidence is right here in your own forum lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ThunderCK


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posted November 27, 2010 08:50 PM        Edited By: ThunderCK on 28 Nov 2010 04:51
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I have had all years come into the shop with #3 rod shot..all from bone stock to highly modified..some guys are luck and others are not so lucky...


You sure you did not mean:

I had 3 lucky guys cum in my shop. They all were lucky and blew a rod all over my face.

Also, does Total Chaos describe the shape your anus is in?

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Wooki


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posted November 27, 2010 10:38 PM        
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On the wind and rain comment. Wind means nothing ofcourse but i meant the scientific parts of it. If you're treading thick water( very very bad storm) tornado possibilities even, and the wind is pushing you to the side and wind off the cars and trailers doing the same it would create enormous stress on the moving parts because of their weight compared to the force. I build boats everyday during the summer. I know what a huge difference it makes when you have choppy water opposed to smooth water. Motorcycles are much the same.



I'm having trouble believing that air flowing around your bike can be compared to your boat banging into waves. Slap your hand into water sometime, then slap it into air. See the difference?

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ZX14Mike


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posted November 27, 2010 10:53 PM        
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On the wind and rain comment. Wind means nothing ofcourse but i meant the scientific parts of it. If you're treading thick water( very very bad storm) tornado possibilities even, and the wind is pushing you to the side and wind off the cars and trailers doing the same it would create enormous stress on the moving parts because of their weight compared to the force. I build boats everyday during the summer. I know what a huge difference it makes when you have choppy water opposed to smooth water. Motorcycles are much the same.



I'm having trouble believing that air flowing around your bike can be compared to your boat banging into waves. Slap your hand into water sometime, then slap it into air. See the difference?



Particularly when your going 200MPH alonside an 18 wheeler tractor trailer during a tornado and tropical monsoon..............BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!............you cant make shit up this funny...........dude be sure to include the James Bond music when this movie gets produced.............BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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zx14fan


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posted November 28, 2010 01:06 AM        
(you're treading thick water( very very bad storm) tornado possibilities ) Ok one simple question who would ride there bike with a possible tornado near by lol are you for real?200 mph right next to the storm chasers hmm?? did they look out the brinks glass bullet broof car and tell you that you should ride home the other way?? maybe slow down to 180 mph so as not to get blown off your bike?? lol I think what this all boils down to is tha you were hoping to get a bunch of 14 owners to agree with you in hopes of making a bunch of money off kawasaki.another lawer who makes nothing produces nothing and raises the cost of every tangibal thing on the planet.admit it and go to the suzuki forum and start over with a new story,maybe about how your buse blew up when you were chasing that russian sub.
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total_chaos


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posted November 29, 2010 12:28 AM        
On the day we were riding it was clear and sunny In Atlanta. We were going 45 Miles North to Cartersville. Upon reaching Cobb County(about 15-20 Miles up) we saw the storm coming and Rode through it. It was very severe and we were wearing full Race Gear. The weather did not affect us and we need Rain-x on our screens so we kept moving. My Vice Pres. is like 42 yrs old and been riding for over 25 years and I knew he could keep up so I navigated and he followed. When I mentioned the wind and rain I mentioned it as a combination. Not one or the other alone. To even state That i thought wind pressure made the difference alone is to disregard the text as a whole. I have come to the conclusion that you're so insulted by my experience and opinion that you're willing to say anything to keep the focus off the truth. Truth = Failure. Not my fault. Bike Blew up. The zx14 Is not something I would recommend on dependability due to Manufacturers defects. Even if 50,000 Bikes are built perfect there are atleast 10,000 death traps out there. I rest my case on this subject and wish not to argue over it's validity. I've posted enough and made my point. I wish you all the best of luck with your motorcycles and only ask that you ride safe and Pray before each ride. If you should be taken by one of these defective models then and only then will you believe me and that's a tragedy. It should not take severe injury or loss of life for someone to see the light. I will get my bike back By the end of this week and I will ride it rather than sell it because my heart won't let me. When it blows I'm ready for it and I'll throw it away if i survive. But I can not consciously sell this bike knowing It may take someone's life purely from mechanical failure. Thanks for your opinions, it was fun last night.
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INTIMIDA2OR


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posted November 29, 2010 12:50 AM        
I still say Hardley davidsmesses prove to be more of a road hazzard and death traps than a 14 can be and they should be taken off our roads. Next are Ductaries!
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eklipse636


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posted November 29, 2010 02:21 AM        
I say owner/operator's fault. If I was a zx14, and my owner/rider was that much of a used douche bag, I would blow myself up for no apparent reason too. I rest my case.
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posted November 29, 2010 06:00 AM        
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On the day we were riding it was clear and sunny In Atlanta. We were going 45 Miles North to Cartersville. Upon reaching Cobb County(about 15-20 Miles up) we saw the storm coming and Rode through it. It was very severe and we were wearing full Race Gear.


Here's a picture of him in full race gear.


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swiftnet


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posted November 29, 2010 07:27 AM        
So you are saying that 20% of zx 14's are death traps? I'm using the numbers you threw out there, you said "Even if 50,000 Bikes are built perfect there are at least 10,000 death traps out there." If the number was 20% KHI would've recalled them, don't ya' think?
As for ripping at extreme speeds though near hurricane level storms, that is bullshit. I live in Fl. I have 40 years riding experience. I've ridden through intense rain storms and know that you will hydroplane at speeds in excess of 70mph. I know this from experience. It is not fun and is definitely a butt puckering moment. Unless you are retarded you learn not to speed in heavy rain.

Bikes do fail. 14's really do nice wheelies but that alone will cause oil starvation issues due to where the oil pickup is situated.
As for 'busa motors being unbreakable here is a quote from a busa thread:
"As for busa's being unbreakable..heh heh. Couple of cam chain tensioner recalls, fuel filters clogging and locked clutches on early '99 models, 2nd gear issues on some. ALUMINUM SUB-FRAME Failures....those weren't a urban legend. I love them yes but, knowing their history I have to admit they don't have exactly a spotless track record.
Well said Stonecold....You build 3000 bikes and some are going to break and it doesn't matter what brand it is..."

The 14 is no less safe than a 'busa, cbr, r1, bandit, etc..... All motorized vehicles have the potential to fail.

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