Matt 09 14
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posted November 21, 2010 05:13 PM
Tires get pinched in a pothole or slashed by broken glass I get a new one even if I smoke it till it pops for three years. Do you guys under stand the stuff I am reading in my post I don't have my decoder ring.
   
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watthecu
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posted November 21, 2010 10:25 PM
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Do you guys under stand the stuff I am reading in my post I don't have my decoder ring.
I am you internet nightmare. You want to wake up from dis but you can't. I am about to give you a scenario or 2. You figure you are talking to a stupid fool so happy dreams. You sleepee time on this and answer the question to yourself I know my yes and no and now you tell me if the scenario pans out your way or any factory selling parts.
We buy the same bike with the same frame number being one number off. That means the same day same hands build both our bikes say for argument sake. I am going to assume now that if we swapped bikes, mine would be the same as it is or maybe off just some snowflake of what I know of this bike after 16K.
No bike is the same. Your problem is... That bike is built to spec and spec means we have a running clearance to clear away. Fucking fish market says some take their bike and scream the shit out of it first day then come back on line and bark at the moon how hot it runs they do not understand, "clearances."
You now have stupid people running to my fish store open the door, smell a bad bike and they do not see the counter nor the door to get in. Beat the bike to death like you read on line and now everyone barks beat it like you stole it and now did you read the factory shop manual and stay within warranty guidelines you want warranty or did that blown up out the case say otherwise was that WOT till you drop?
I'd be the factory all over you knocking on your neighbor's door or you buddy goes lying in court for you about you revving that bike just one rpm over and you lie...... You lie is where is your credibility did you or did you not find redline one time in that engine's life under warranty you are under odor..... No you are out of odor...... The whole system is out of odor in day court!
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Matt 09 14
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posted November 30, 2010 08:51 PM
Lawyers jump on the case. They are confident they can get a 2011zx14 or full refund so we will see it could take a couple weeks or a couple months. I will keep you all posted .
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fish_antlers
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posted November 30, 2010 09:09 PM
I wish complaining here would help you, but since Kawasaki is sitting in the corner with Salsa on a time out for acting lick jackasses about our ZX-10R videos, they can't read your complaints... LOL
poor Kawasaki.
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phatphil
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posted December 01, 2010 12:40 AM
holy fuck that shit is hard to read. like reading old fucken english. i am still trying to understand what a "clunk" is. what the fuck is a clunk? when, how, characteristic, volume, pattern, etc. this sounds like a bs thread.
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ryn0cer0s
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posted December 01, 2010 02:15 AM
no offense, wathecu, but do you have to be stoned to read your posts? I tossed three of my hydrocodone down and a few lines make sense now.
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watthecu
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posted December 01, 2010 10:13 AM
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no offense, wathecu,
I don't understand? Did you stand in front of that fish market and need to be offensive? Defense/Offense, lets call the hole thing off, I dig a hole for myself, OK, it was more, "Now ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzEYE Lay me down to sleepeeBye!
All of a sudden I woke up and here we are.
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but do you have to be stoned to read your posts?
No. You have to have brain damage + EyeVan + VOES = WATT my bike looks like inside my cranial wire short is my guess? Had too many concussions and here we are. Popcorn, don't show him that bike or he won't think it was brain damage [before/after effect] kind of LOLmyazzOFF
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I tossed three of my hydrocodone down and a few lines make sense now.
I would not take an addictive done-throw that shit my way you tossing 3 down is next month 30 down and no effect but the liver is gonna getcha! And there YOU ARE!
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watthecu
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posted December 01, 2010 10:35 AM
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holy fuck...what a "clunk" is. what the fuck is a clunk?
"... when, how, characteristic, volume, pattern, etc. this sounds like a bs thread."
When: The crank is-hear the engine?
When: The rear wheel is stopped.
When: The clutch outer never stops; hear the engine?
When: The clutch center is more a freewheeler on it's own is the whole shaft still spinning.
When: The toe jam slams the freewheeler is still spinning does it go, "CLUNKiss"
When: The stationary dog assfactor is dead in the water, the dog-ear pushes its nose into the dog house IS
When: The clunkisses or sniff his it's ass goes kennel cough "clunk."
How: The fuck am I suppose to know?
Characteristic: What? Saved toe jam in a jar you need evidence?
Volume: I'll match your fucking volume is wait for the freewheeler toe stop on it's own will I silence the lamb.
Pattern: My right foot I can stab it from here!
ECT: BrinGIT!
Dis sounds like a BaaaasssSparkleBoat kind of thread I need more fish to fry.
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Matt 09 14
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posted December 01, 2010 08:27 PM
More on the clunk. The clunk is the word used to get the techs to understand that when you being the rider deliver some real horsepower to the wheel as the bike begins to launch with the clutch fully ingaged something in the motor slams, like it pops out of gear for a second. After it was test driven by the techs they all felt the clunk or slam or what ever word you would like to use to describe a transmission issue. There is no question something is wrong those aren't my words that is theirs . Kawasaki was saying it was normal only because no tech provided a smoking gun that is to say it's is this part causing this problem. So basically the tech would have open the motor never really knowing what to replace witch is not my problem getting them to admit something is wrong was my job and I did that. At the end of the day I love my bike a I just want it replaced. Sorry if my exsplaination wasn't clear enough. Hopefully everything gets straitened out I will let you either way. Happy safe riding
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SteveWFL
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posted December 01, 2010 10:14 PM
OP, did you talk directly with Mark at KAWASAKI, or just cry to your stealership?
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phatphil
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posted December 01, 2010 10:42 PM
 Edited By: phatphil on 2 Dec 2010 06:44
so you bought this bike brand new from dealer and they say there is a definite problem but won't fix it and all within warranty period? why a motor would feel like it pops out it gear for a second is very strange. is it a slipping clutch with a chatter? or drivetrain related? anyone guess why a motor would do a clunk once while under 1st gear launch only with clutch fully out? does not do at any other time? any chance tire slips slightly on rim? put some chalk on tire and rim to see if so. or fuel cutout problem- clogged filter, injector, bad gas? did you run engine cleaner thru and use only high quality gas? and bike rides totally fine at all other times and only does this at hard 1st gear launch as you say?
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posted December 02, 2010 06:48 AM
I used high quality gas in my bike for 17k miles... 87 octane high quality  . That's all that's necessary.
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watthecu
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posted December 02, 2010 07:15 AM
Edited By: watthecu on 2 Dec 2010 15:16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPk7VTAN0rA&feature=related Here is your typical squid start up. Cold engine-high rpm-pistons grow faster than the cylinder wall- Skrit Score = A valve tick sound like it needs the valves adjusted but it's more a slap BDC-ATDC kind of up and down slap the piston moves the other directional slap.
Pops out of gear means bent forks. You speed shifting from 1st to 2nd beat my new bike watch me video a start up and now watch me shift blame bike!
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phatphil
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posted December 02, 2010 08:04 AM
so does it actually pop out of gear from 1st only? the fact you cannot describe exactly, in detail, what actually occurs, it leads me to believe 1. rider error -does not know how to ride/shift and has damaged the tranny, or 2. that you don't really want to solve a problem.
you leave out information such as, what do the kawasaki mechanics suggest it is? and the fact that you make a statement from the beginning that makes it very difficult for you to go back on without looking like an idiot/fool.
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Matt 09 14
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posted December 02, 2010 04:37 PM
An idiot/fool if you where in the same room as me you would choose your words more carefully because I would pull your arms out and shove them up your ass, literally. And I don't need to figure out my motor cycle problems at your house like you could do anything to help me from where every you are, so spare me your OCD. Don't pretend to know everything your just coming of as a dick-head further more if the techs can't figure it out that's not my concern that's their bosses and Kawasaki's problem so come down off your petistal and calm down. I don't have the answer to all your questions obviously nor would I search for them because when there is a problem that's where the warranty comes into effect. For those of you reading this don't insult me I am not working on this bike and I do not beleive just anybody could fix it, you better know your shit, not pretend to know your shit or you could kill yourself and possibly someone else
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posted December 02, 2010 07:17 PM
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choose your words more carefully because I would pull your arms out and shove them up your ass, literally.
here we go.....................!
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phatphil
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posted December 02, 2010 10:27 PM
so you are now making physical threats on the internet? you came out and made a pretty strong statement but when you have to think about it, you can no longer make sense of it. and you see, no one else can either. it's not your concern? is it not your bike? you are certain there is something wrong but have no interest in knowing what it is or what solution is possible? i don't get this. isn't it you who is the owner and is riding this bike? you give a vague description of what you experience but are unable to clarify and provide details to actually narrowing down what it is. why then would you come here and say such a thing? do you really expect everyone to take your word for it that there is a "problem"? from the way you conduct yourself towards others, that would be the last thing you should expect.
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SteveWFL
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posted December 03, 2010 05:08 PM
yea he is
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Matt 09 14
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posted December 04, 2010 11:55 AM
Maybe when you call me an idiot you ment it in the nicest possible way. I was just telling you that you would not insult me if I was standing next to you and think I would just stand their and take it. About my bike, I don't want to pay for a warranty and tell the techs what's wrong and how to fix it, that's their job right? Maybe you would but that's not me. When it's all over I just want what I paid for a brand new properly working bike. When I got on this site it's just to see if anyone had similar problems with their bikes so I could give the techs some direction but after 30 days of bullshit from Kawasaki I had a different approach new bike or refund that's the law. Maybe you have to know it all, know it alls usually do, I find people like you annoying because you usually miss the point. Replace my bike! Your not taking my word for it the techs said there is a problem if you read all the threads you would know that.
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phatphil
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posted December 05, 2010 11:28 PM
You want a brand new replacement bike for something you cannot even describe? You come to a forum full of product enthusiasts and tell them what they bought is "shit". And you don't even have a coherent reason. Maybe your lawyers can understand your language and that is probably the best direction for you. Because if all you want to do is to complain and whine, no one here will be able to help you.
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Matt 09 14
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posted December 06, 2010 01:23 PM
Edited By: Matt 09 14 on 6 Dec 2010 21:29
Once again if you read all my post you would know I love these bikes. In the begining all I wanted was it repaired after 3 techs drove it and confirmed something is wrong but could not pin point it. Kawasaki refused to allow them to pull it apart without knowing what they were looking for. Kawasaki made the statement that the problem was normal to avoid a goose chase by the mechanics. Normal? I said You will be hearing from my lawyer. I have work orders from the techs stateing their is a problem I don't need you to understand, confirm, deni,or troubleshoot this bike. For the record some guys were vary helpful early on roling out what it could be, To those guys Thanks.You on the other hand haven't helped at all so speak for your self.
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phatphil
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posted December 06, 2010 02:27 PM
Helped with what? Getting you a new bike? Making you feel better? Getting others to worry about their purchases? There are various clunks, etc that occur on many bikes. And ideally they shouldn't be there. But often it is more a characteristic than something dangerous or vital. But since you will not be more specific or provide more details, there does arise questions. You only seem interested in avoid the actual problem.
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Matt 09 14
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posted December 06, 2010 05:57 PM
Phil we have establish I am not a mechanic so whos responsibly is it to figure out what's wrong with this bike exacty, once we know there is a problem shouldnt they make it a point to do something? I didn't avoid it i am the one who brot it to there attention. You have said Ideally they shouldn't be there on this point we agree. So let me get this straight you would fix it your self instead of make Kawasaki do it cause that what it sounds like to me. Making me feel better about my purchase is they idea,fix it replace it only make senses. I don't think others are worried about there purchase because they don't have this problem. I am just making Kawasaki honor the warranty and that's good for everyone. If I get a new bike over this everybody would feel great about their warranty right?
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phatphil
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posted December 06, 2010 08:35 PM
Unfortunately, a warranty just doesn't work like that. A warranty is to protect against a manufacture defect causing failure. It is not a satisfaction guarentee. It is as simple as that. When you buy a bike as when you buy anything, it is yours. And it becomes your responsibilty. There is no return it and have another one replace it because you are not happy. Some department stores do do this but even that is becoming less so. It is much better then to identify the problem, determine if manufacture defect or safety related, then get part repaired/replaced. If I was in your shoes, I would try and explain exactly what you are experiencing to determine if it is safety related or will cause future failure. This would be the only way you would be able to convince kawasaki to cover. If you cannot provide reasons you believe it should be covered under warranty, you have little chance they will do so if they don't want to. And I don't think you have much of a legal case without reasons either. Getting kawasaki to replace your bike just because you think and want them to is just not good enough. Unfortunately you or someone representing you must be able to fully understand and logically explain your position.
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LOCK 2121
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posted December 08, 2010 05:59 PM
Maybe motorcycling is not the correct sport for this person , he sould try a goldwing or harly where the dealer likes to baby the buyer's make them feel good about their concern, sell them better oil , more trouble free model's to choose from trade that peice of shit , or sell it to me for low book minus shipping ?
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