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posted September 13, 2010 04:37 PM
California's new noise bill
AS with most laws its starts in california
Bikers make noise on attempt to quiet motorcycles
CALABASAS, Calif. – The laid-back vibe of this affluent Los Angeles suburb gets a jarring wakeup on weekends when hundreds of motorcycles thunder through the Santa Monica Mountains, triggering car alarms, rattling windows and jolting alive barking dogs.
"They rev their engines with complete disregard for the people who live here," complained neighborhood resident Tonia Aery. "It's obnoxious."
Aery's wish for peace and quiet could come true after the state Senate passed a bill this month that would make it a motor vehicle violation to ride a roaring hog. The only catch is that the decision now falls to the state's biker-in-chief, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, an avid motorcyclist.
Schwarzenegger's fellow riders — still bitter over an 18-year-old state law requiring helmets — are hoping he'll veto the law.
The bill targets motorcyclists who remove factory-installed emission control devices mandated by the U.S. government and replace them with custom, after-market parts that often make their bikes louder — and, consequently, dirtier. If passed, motorcycles would be required to bear the proper U.S. Environmental Protection Agency label certifying that the exhaust system is clean burning and does not exceed 80 decibels — about the same as a vacuum cleaner.
At least six cities, including Denver, Boston and the state of Oregon have passed similar noise-prevention laws, but muffling motorcycles here could have symbolic impact.
The Hells Angels started here, so did the raucous motorcycle rallies in Hollister that inspired "The Wild One," the 1953 Marlon Brando movie that cemented bikers' rebellious image in American pop culture.
"It's another example of government intrusion into our lifestyle," said Mike Levison, president of the Southern California Harley Riders Association.
The bill by Sen. Fran Pavley would fine first-time offenders up to $100, but their ticket could be voided if they make corrections. Subsequent infractions would be subject to fines of $100 to $250.
For years, residents in Pavley's district have complained about bikes that rumble along Pacific Coast Highway and echo through the twisting canyons of Malibu, Calabasas and Agoura Hills.
Last year, Pavley, D-Agoura Hills, tried to close a loophole in the state law that exempts motorcycles from pollution standards by mandating smog inspections every two years. Vocal motorcyclists helped defeat the bill so she amended it to target noise. If signed, the bill will effectively make the state's 826,000 registered motorcycles meet air pollution requirements by meeting noise standards.
Federal and state laws that limit motorcycle noise already exist, but Pavley said enforcement is lax because it's impractical to outfit police with noise-monitoring instruments.
"It's already illegal to modify the pipe to make your bike louder," Pavley said. "So this is not a new law, it's enforcement of an existing law."
California Highway Patrol Officer Leland Tang, whose Woodland Hills office regularly fields complaints about noisy bikes, noted that state law prohibits drivers from modifying their cars' exhaust system to make the engine louder. But bikers can dodge the ordinance because the Bureau of Automotive Repair, which inspects vehicles to ensure their exhaust systems are in compliance, is not set up to inspect motorcycles.
Bikers fear the legislation would put a crimp in more than their tailpipes and could prevent them from customizing their motorcycles because makers of aftermarket parts — faced with the daunting task of having to list every make and model their parts can be used for — could go out of business.
"We're never going to advocate breaking the law, what we're trying to advocate is reasonable choices to allow consumers to customize their vehicles," said Imre Szauter, government affairs manager for American Motorcyclist Association.
Pavley said the EPA stamp will be required for motorcycles made after 2013, giving enough time for parts makers to comply.
Even motorcyclists known for sounding off on their boisterous peers think the new law is a bad idea.
"This bill doesn't directly address the noise issue, it just regulates what you can purchase for your bike," said Don Amador, whose Quiet Warrior Riding consulting firm advocates riding with sound-compliant equipment. He suggests that authorities adopt a decibel test to measure actual noise output.
Schwarzenegger, who has until Sept. 30 to decide, has not taken a position on the legislation, said spokesman Aaron McLear. The governor, whose most famous movie image depicts him as gun-toting, motorcycle-riding cyborg in "The Terminator" series, has a bike collection and sometimes rides around the Malibu hills with his pals.
McLear said he didn't know if Schwarzenegger's motorcycles meet federal noise requirements.
The bill's not the first time Schwarzenegger has faced the prospect of being in the hot saddle over something that would affect his lifestyle. Earlier this year, the governor known for puffing on expensive cigars vetoed legislation that would have banned smoking at all California state parks and beaches. He said the bill crossed the line of government intrusion.
On the other hand, Schwarzenegger received environmental kudos for signing Pavley's landmark global warming law imposing stronger regulations on greenhouse gas emissions.
Mike Levison, the Harley rider, said he gets annoyed by loud hogs, but thinks peer pressure's a better way to quiet loud bikes. In the past, he's banished loud bikes to the back of the pack.
"Guys revving up their noisy pipes remind me of my 8-year-old grandson. Every time he jumps in the pool he yells 'Hey Grandpa, look at me! Look at me!'" the retired businessman said. "They're making noise to get attention. It's no wonder the public has come down on us because of these idiots."
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posted September 13, 2010 05:39 PM
Thwey need to move out from the roads then and sell their houses and get new lifes.
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posted September 13, 2010 05:48 PM
Bet Schwarzenegger well wait till the last day and veto it. They allready have a 80 Db law. And will cost the state to much to deal with the issue.
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posted September 13, 2010 06:26 PM
isnt there a better way to spend time and money!
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posted September 13, 2010 09:00 PM
Yeah, buy ammo & use it on politicians & lawyers.
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posted September 13, 2010 10:00 PM
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Yeah, buy ammo & use it on politicians & lawyers.
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posted September 13, 2010 11:21 PM
Eventually it'll pass, or something like it. Folks are tired of loud ass bikes. Its starting to happen all over, its only a matter of time.
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posted September 14, 2010 06:54 AM
Not sure how much a decibel metering unit is, but I know that aftermarket exhaust system cost on average about $1200 without additional tuning/equipment/installation...........these people can invest in better insulation for their homes, triple-pane gas sealed windows, and ear plugs for a lot less money than the state will burn on equipment / man-hours to initiate noise testing...........let the homeowners write-off these sound-deadening home improvements to keep everyone happy, or they can simply sell the homes to bikers that ride that territory!! People tend to cry over the dumbest sh*t when they THINK they've got rights to control public environments, and all because they're paying property taxes in the affected area -- some fux assume too much sometimes.
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posted September 14, 2010 09:52 AM
My bike is in no way Quiet, but i can see the bitch about noise, theres a place and time for everything, theres a asshole up the street from me with straight pipes that will take off on his bike nice and quiet by his neighbors,
then purposely wind the snot out of it on our block and its a slow ass harley so it takes a while for him to go by.
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posted September 14, 2010 10:32 AM
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My bike is in no way Quiet, but i can see the bitch about noise, theres a place and time for everything, theres a asshole up the street from me with straight pipes that will take off on his bike nice and quiet by his neighbors,
then purposely wind the snot out of it on our block and its a slow ass harley so it takes a while for him to go by.
Hate dicks like that..........got a couple "cool" Harley fanatics in my neighborhood too but neither of them act like that..........yeah - my bikes far from quiet, but I do my VERY best every morning to ensure I'm not being a complete assjack when I'm heading out for work...........but once I'm on the interstate - let her sing!
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posted September 15, 2010 05:19 AM
LOL leave it to Ca. to make double laws for everything and then not have the money to enforce them.
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posted September 15, 2010 10:45 AM
letter to governor via email
If you ride in California send him a fax and give him a call.....If you don't ride call and fax and lie......If you live anywhere else in the country tell him your tourist $$$$will go elsewhere.......
Governor's Office:Governor Arnold SchwarzeneggerState Capitol BuildingSacramento, CA 95814Phone: (916) 445-2841Fax: (916) 558-3160 (new number)
Website: http://gov.ca.gov/interact
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posted September 22, 2010 05:05 PM
quote:
letter to governor via email
If you ride in California send him a fax and give him a call.....If you don't ride call and fax and lie......If you live anywhere else in the country tell him your tourist $$$$will go elsewhere.......
Governor's Office:Governor Arnold SchwarzeneggerState Capitol BuildingSacramento, CA 95814Phone: (916) 445-2841Fax: (916) 558-3160 (new number)
Website: http://gov.ca.gov/interact
Bump!
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posted September 22, 2010 05:57 PM
I also heard today that good ol USA has passed a bill that will force automotive manufactures to make "non-hybrid" gas powered vehicles to turn off at stop signs/lights like the hybrids. To save gas... I wonder how much more our cars will cost us to save that fuel being burned at a freaking stop sign?
And Demos cant figure out why the "tea party" has so much momentum.
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posted September 22, 2010 06:22 PM
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I also heard today that good ol USA has passed a bill that will force automotive manufactures to make "non-hybrid" gas powered vehicles to turn off at stop signs/lights like the hybrids. To save gas... I wonder how much more our cars will cost us to save that fuel being burned at a freaking stop sign?
And Demos cant figure out why the "tea party" has so much momentum.
Sounds crazy and out of control with tree huggers .
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posted September 22, 2010 10:45 PM
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I also heard today that good ol USA has passed a bill that will force automotive manufactures to make "non-hybrid" gas powered vehicles to turn off at stop signs/lights like the hybrids. To save gas... I wonder how much more our cars will cost us to save that fuel being burned at a freaking stop sign?
And Demos cant figure out why the "tea party" has so much momentum.
Wow ! The only vehicles that did that other than hybrids were the big brown UPS trucks. They turn off when ever they idle .
This State bill 435 can still be killed though . The Terminator has/rides bikes that are not stock and rides them pretty regular. That and if enough 2 wheeled riders flood his message systems I think he'll veto it.
If he doesn't then after California , others will follow suit.
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posted September 23, 2010 12:16 AM
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I also heard today that good ol USA has passed a bill that will force automotive manufactures to make "non-hybrid" gas powered vehicles to turn off at stop signs/lights like the hybrids. To save gas... I wonder how much more our cars will cost us to save that fuel being burned at a freaking stop sign?
And Demos cant figure out why the "tea party" has so much momentum.
I can imagine all the cars stalling at lights the first couple of years as they get the bugs worked out of a system like that. Sounds ridiculously overcomplicated. What a nightmare of wear and tear and extra maintainence bills thats going to be.
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posted September 25, 2010 02:23 PM
its those hi-tech US brand bikes making all the noise, I saw this one while sport-touring in the mountains of WV. He had made noise all the way from Hickory, NC on this bike.
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posted September 26, 2010 05:38 PM
Yeah fuckin' caveman designed pos's that make everyone sound bad huh!
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posted September 28, 2010 08:54 PM
Jim Lombardo called the State Office at 7 p.m., this evening, to let us know that he just heard that Governor Schwarzenegger signed SB 435, without comment. We will have a full update, in the next day or so, as soon as we get more information on what contributed to his decision to sign it.
Carol Cromwell
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posted September 29, 2010 05:52 AM
I was born and raised in Calif .. I love Calif ... But with this new law Calif can suck my left nut ... I will never move back to Calif ..
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posted September 29, 2010 09:44 AM
Gov signs bill to quiet hogs
By ROBIN HINDERY Associated Press Writer Posted: 09/28/2010
07:47:10 PM
SACRAMENTO, Calif.—More than 60 years after theHells Angels first revved their engines in a steel town east of Los Angeles, California is reining inmotorcycle enthusiasts with new legislation aimed at quieting the deafening roar of modified rides. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, an avid motorcyclist,signed a bill Tuesday that targets motorcyclists whoremove federally mandated, factory-installed emission control devices and replace them withcustom, aftermarket parts. Those modifications often make bikes louder and increase their emissions. The new law will make it a crime to operate a motorcycle manufactured after Jan. 1, 2013, thatdoes not meet federal noise-emission control standards. Motorcyclists whose vehicles lack the proper U.S.Environmental Protection Agency label will face finesof up to $100 for first-time violations, and up to$250 for subsequent infractions. The initial ticket can be voided if the individual makes the required corrections. "Basic common sense and decency dictates that when a motorcycle drives by and sets off every car alarm on the street, that is too loud," said Sen. Fran Pavley, D-Agoura Hills, the author of SB435. She called the noise problem a quality-of-life issue. In a statement Tuesday, Pavley praised the governor,who owns multiple motorcycles, for acting to put astop to what she described as "a few bad apples on our roads." But many bikers say the law adds an unnecessary layer of government bureaucracy, and that the state's existing laws todeal with motorcycle noise and illegal mufflersalready keep the problem largely under control. Pavley disagrees, and says the legislation willprovide a uniform statute that gives state and local law enforcement officers the ability to write citations. The first Hells Angels motorcycle club was foundedin 1948 in Fontana, in San Bernardino County.Today, California is home to more than 10 percentof the country's registered motorcycles, accordingto the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The state implemented a motorcycle helmet law in 1992 over the strong objections of the biker community.
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posted September 29, 2010 02:28 PM
It was bound to happen...if we can't keep ourselves from pissiing off the public, somebody else will have to. And I don't just mean sportbikes, its all bikes.
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posted September 30, 2010 09:22 AM
I can't hear you!
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posted September 30, 2010 10:59 AM
So what exactly does this mean to owners are pre 2013 bikes anyways? I mean unless you buy a brand new bike on or after the date does it mean anything for our generation zx14's?
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