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posted September 07, 2010 02:48 PM
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I mostly run the 9.50 class and street ET .. and whoever beats me goes on to win it ..
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posted September 07, 2010 02:56 PM
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2 kott races 1 win, the race I didnt win my bike would only run 9.17 with bad gas, I still made the semi's, if sand bagging works for you and the badguy, then ride on.
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i'm not bashing wee but just stating
when your the only entry in the race ..i don't think it matters what you run .. but a win is a win
4 entries were there, I was the only one posting my times, for some reason everybody backed out, I can't figure out why
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posted September 07, 2010 02:59 PM
MAYBE THEY COULDN'T RUN 9.0'S duh
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posted September 07, 2010 03:03 PM
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MAYBE THEY COULDN'T RUN 9.0'S duh
maybe I shouldn't post my time till qualifying? oh yeah one guy had a 8.90 bike (jd),
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posted September 07, 2010 03:11 PM
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I do totally understand what 1bad is trying to say. I won't run an index class unless I can run .10 under in the worst heat. so I would never enter a 5.80 class either heck 6.00 would be pushing it for me as well.
I run 9.01-9.04 wide open, you think I should back out of the 9.0 class cause I can't run a 8.90?
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Well how many wins and runner ups for you this year out of how many races? can you cover everyone on the tree by .050 or better? then I will let you know my answer.
2 kott races 1 win, the race I didnt win my bike would only run 9.17 with bad gas, I still made the semi's, if sand bagging works for you and the badguy, then ride on.
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Wee I really thought you where one on this board that new about racing better then that. If you think being able to run under an index is sand bagging I guess I was wrong. I would never build a supergas or super comp car that could not run under the index in the heat. where's that leave you when someone goes .020 on the pro tree and then you can't run the index? it leaves you loading you bike up and going home. I'm not driving 4 hrs one way to run in a class where I can't run the number no matter what the conditions are. I have better things to throw my money away doing then that. I have 7 wins this year now because I run classes I can win on any giving day. yes I've lost in those classes this year to of course, but I always have a bike that can run the number I'm shooting for. I like index racing that's why I run 9.50 and 10.50 and I don't play in the 8.90 class cause I can't run the number. sure I might win a rd or two here and there If I did becuase I can get a .10 or .15 on the tree but that's it. guess I keep counting my money from the sand bags I've made this year! Oh and my last super comp car could run 7.70 185 wide open and 8.90 on the stop at 181!
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posted September 07, 2010 03:27 PM
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quote where's that leave you when someone goes .020 on the pro tree and then you can't run the index? it leaves you loading you bike up and going home quote
good show bentley ..most guys just don't understand that stuff.. thank god
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posted September 07, 2010 03:46 PM
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I do totally understand what 1bad is trying to say. I won't run an index class unless I can run .10 under in the worst heat. so I would never enter a 5.80 class either heck 6.00 would be pushing it for me as well.
I run 9.01-9.04 wide open, you think I should back out of the 9.0 class cause I can't run a 8.90?
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Well how many wins and runner ups for you this year out of how many races? can you cover everyone on the tree by .050 or better? then I will let you know my answer.
2 kott races 1 win, the race I didnt win my bike would only run 9.17 with bad gas, I still made the semi's, if sand bagging works for you and the badguy, then ride on.
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Wee I really thought you where one on this board that new about racing better then that. If you think being able to run under an index is sand bagging I guess I was wrong. I would never build a supergas or super comp car that could not run under the index in the heat. where's that leave you when someone goes .020 on the pro tree and then you can't run the index? it leaves you loading you bike up and going home. I'm not driving 4 hrs one way to run in a class where I can't run the number no matter what the conditions are. I have better things to throw my money away doing then that. I have 7 wins this year now because I run classes I can win on any giving day. yes I've lost in those classes this year to of course, but I always have a bike that can run the number I'm shooting for. I like index racing that's why I run 9.50 and 10.50 and I don't play in the 8.90 class cause I can't run the number. sure I might win a rd or two here and there If I did becuase I can get a .10 or .15 on the tree but that's it. guess I keep counting my money from the sand bags I've made this year! Oh and my last super comp car could run 7.70 185 wide open and 8.90 on the stop at 181!
my 14 will run 9.01 in the heat, I dont know much about racing, but it seems I don't even need to race the other lane or be concerned about it, I race myself, never look back and never lift, not having to guess
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posted September 07, 2010 03:54 PM
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my 14 will run 9.01 in the heat, I dont know much about racing, but it seems I don't even need to race the other lane or be concerned about it, I race myself, never look back and never lift, not having to guess
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Hot damn!!! I finally agree with WEE!!! If at any point going down a dragstrip you have to lift on the throttle or tap the brake then it is not racing!!!! Lets compare drag racing to ANY other sport and the best guy always wins. Wheter the best being the fastest or the strongest the best still wins. Bracket racing is not racing!!! IMO
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posted September 07, 2010 03:59 PM
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my 14 will run 9.01 in the heat, I dont know much about racing, but it seems I don't even need to race the other lane or be concerned about it, I race myself, never look back and never lift, not having to guess
wee
Hot damn!!! I finally agree with WEE!!! If at any point going down a dragstrip you have to lift on the throttle or tap the brake then it is not racing!!!! Lets compare drag racing to ANY other sport and the best guy always wins. Wheter the best being the fastest or the strongest the best still wins. Bracket racing is not racing!!! IMO
unless you can beat larry mcbride. you are all bracket racers . weather you believe it or not..
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posted September 07, 2010 04:03 PM
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my 14 will run 9.01 in the heat, I dont know much about racing, but it seems I don't even need to race the other lane or be concerned about it, I race myself, never look back and never lift, not having to guess
wee
Hot damn!!! I finally agree with WEE!!! If at any point going down a dragstrip you have to lift on the throttle or tap the brake then it is not racing!!!! Lets compare drag racing to ANY other sport and the best guy always wins. Wheter the best being the fastest or the strongest the best still wins. Bracket racing is not racing!!! IMO
LOL you guys are funny running in a bracket class and acting like your running a heads up pro class. and not lifting if you ahead. we happen to have a guy like that here and he loses all the time because he's ahead and breaks out. I spent the money once to run a heads up class (AA/FC) and I won't do it again. I will spend 40 dollars to enter a bracket or index class and take money home before I'm going to throw a prostreet bike together and go spend 10,000 of my own money a year racing. The last 2 yrs I've cleared 3400 dollars racing and this seasons not over. And I run my own lane untill I'm at the 1100 ft mark, that's a skilled racer right there because if at that point your 3 bikes back you can bet when we go across the strip you won't be!
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posted September 07, 2010 04:03 PM
Thats why there are classes not all bikes are equal. I just don't understand building a bike with a turbo or N2O or even dumping thousands into a bike just to bracket race it. Why not just run a Ninja 250 down the track since it's all about being consistant.
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posted September 07, 2010 04:04 PM
And say what you want it takes more skill as a rider to win bracket races then it does to throw money at a heads up bike.
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posted September 07, 2010 04:07 PM
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my 14 will run 9.01 in the heat, I dont know much about racing, but it seems I don't even need to race the other lane or be concerned about it, I race myself, never look back and never lift, not having to guess
wee
Hot damn!!! I finally agree with WEE!!! If at any point going down a dragstrip you have to lift on the throttle or tap the brake then it is not racing!!!! Lets compare drag racing to ANY other sport and the best guy always wins. Wheter the best being the fastest or the strongest the best still wins. Bracket racing is not racing!!! IMO
LOL you guys are funny running in a bracket class and acting like your running a heads up pro class. and not lifting if you ahead. we happen to have a guy like that here and he loses all the time because he's ahead and breaks out. I spent the money once to run a heads up class (AA/FC) and I won't do it again. I will spend 40 dollars to enter a bracket or index class and take money home before I'm going to throw a prostreet bike together and go spend 10,000 of my own money a year racing. The last 2 yrs I've cleared 3400 dollars racing and this seasons not over. And I run my own lane untill I'm at the 1100 ft mark, that's a skilled racer right there because if at that point your 3 bikes back you can bet when we go across the strip you won't be!
maybe I don't get it, if my bike will not run a 8.99 why should I lift in a 9.0 index race?
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posted September 07, 2010 04:09 PM
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And I run my own lane untill I'm at the 1100 ft mark, that's a skilled racer right there because if at that point your 3 bikes back you can bet when we go across the strip you won't be!
amen brother . can't tell you how many times i've seen guys run down the track and break-out with a 20 bike lead ..
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posted September 07, 2010 04:10 PM
I can't wait for the NHRA to start up a bracket class and try and televise it. That will be a huge draw for the sport. Not to talk up Nascar but lets start a Nascar race where the winner is the one that has the most consistent lap times, not the fastest. Sounds like fun to me. Bracket racing is difficult but I would not say its more difficult than going fast.  Case and point I would like to see 1bad 60ft in the 1.200 range like the prostreet guys.
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posted September 07, 2010 04:13 PM
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And say what you want it takes more skill as a rider to win bracket races then it does to throw money at a heads up bike.
some of these guys may get 1 good money race out of a heads up race after building a fast heads up bike . but once the words out it becomes a fast TNT bike
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posted September 07, 2010 04:17 PM
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I can't wait for the NHRA to start up a bracket class and try and televise it.
they do every event . if you think them V&H Vrods aren't lifting to keep their advantages .. your really dumb
but they did screw-up this last event and smashed the record and may get weight chunk on them ..
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posted September 07, 2010 04:24 PM
BTW 1bad NHRA does not even show the bikes as it is. Now you are saying that the Harleys losing every once in a while on purpose? Strange that Arana won the series last year on a Suzuki and won 5 races during the season. HD sponsors the NHRA if it was rigged don't you think HD would have won the Full Throttle series last year? I suppose I am dumb. Lets just agree on one thing on this thread, you will NEVER be fast and I will never claim to be a bracket racer. Fair enough?
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posted September 07, 2010 04:24 PM
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And I run my own lane untill I'm at the 1100 ft mark, that's a skilled racer right there because if at that point your 3 bikes back you can bet when we go across the strip you won't be!
amen brother . can't tell you how many times i've seen guys run down the track and break-out with a 20 bike lead ..
I'm with bently and 1bad (ashamed it had to be 1bad I'm agreeing with) but heavier guys don't stand a change running heads up. I'd rather run a index class and et.
I learned a valuable lesson sat night in the 9.30 class. I was running a mid-high 8 sec bike and he's not much of a index racer, so I wen WOT and tried pushing him out at the end. He wan a 9.306 to my 9.35. I learnt my lesson. Don't let out too early.
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posted September 07, 2010 04:33 PM
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Thats why there are classes not all bikes are equal. I just don't understand building a bike with a turbo or N2O or even dumping thousands into a bike just to bracket race it. Why not just run a Ninja 250 down the track since it's all about being consistant.
I got a W-2 from my local eighth mile track for almost $30k from bracket racing.Just because your not good at it dont hate on it.Why arent you pro stock racing?
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posted September 07, 2010 04:39 PM
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Thats why there are classes not all bikes are equal. I just don't understand building a bike with a turbo or N2O or even dumping thousands into a bike just to bracket race it. Why not just run a Ninja 250 down the track since it's all about being consistant.
I got a W-2 from my local eighth mile track for almost $30k from bracket racing.Just because your not good at it dont hate on it.Why arent you pro stock racing?
did you return it? lol
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posted September 07, 2010 04:42 PM
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Thats why there are classes not all bikes are equal. I just don't understand building a bike with a turbo or N2O or even dumping thousands into a bike just to bracket race it. Why not just run a Ninja 250 down the track since it's all about being consistant.
just because your not good at it dont hate on it.Why arent you pro stock racing?
we need a answer slim!
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posted September 07, 2010 05:01 PM
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Thats why there are classes not all bikes are equal. I just don't understand building a bike with a turbo or N2O or even dumping thousands into a bike just to bracket race it. Why not just run a Ninja 250 down the track since it's all about being consistant.
just because your not good at it dont hate on it.Why arent you pro stock racing?
we need a answer slim!
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posted September 07, 2010 05:05 PM
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Thats why there are classes not all bikes are equal. I just don't understand building a bike with a turbo or N2O or even dumping thousands into a bike just to bracket race it. Why not just run a Ninja 250 down the track since it's all about being consistant.
I got a W-2 from my local eighth mile track for almost $30k from bracket racing.Just because your not good at it dont hate on it.Why arent you pro stock racing?
did you return it? lol
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I didnt win that much racing in the bike class.I was super pro car class champion on my bike,and we also had several $10k to win races that year
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posted September 07, 2010 05:08 PM
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I learned a valuable lesson sat night in the 9.30 class. I was running a mid-high 8 sec bike and he's not much of a index racer, so I wen WOT and tried pushing him out at the end. He wan a 9.306 to my 9.35. I learnt my lesson. Don't let out too early.
i got a good 1 for you. the last race i was in i had to race another turbo zx14 1st round Street ET .. well i had a 9.90 dail and he had a 8.83 all out dail .. well i leave 1/8 mile i look back . no bike .. 1000 ft i look back again . no bike thinking be blew the tire off .. so i drop the throttle and coasted . whoosh... there goes the other bike .. i go oh shit . lesson learn ..put the mirrors back on ..
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