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Shane661


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posted October 23, 2010 06:12 AM        
My old Shortmeg had a custom Carbon Meg on it, sounded pretty good:



I find that the shorter mufflers tend to be more raspy. If she doesn't like the sound of the standard CT, we will put a meg on it.

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Shane661


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posted October 23, 2010 06:14 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 23 Oct 2010 14:16
Nothing beats the sound of the TiWinder, imo:



Much deeper sound than, say, a Shortmeg or Alien head. The pipe above has the race baffle installed.

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PC HOTROD


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posted October 23, 2010 06:22 AM        
Both the standard CT and the CT Meg both make some great HP and ET improvements. Erica made her quickest passes with the CT at 9.20 on the stock wheelbase setup.
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AcadianaZX


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posted October 23, 2010 11:22 AM        
Hey Shane, How's the clearance on the quick access cover on that particular sidewinder. Thinking of shopping for another pipe to make room for quicker access for clutch tuning at the track. Sorry for jacking Racheal's thread.
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Shane661


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posted October 23, 2010 01:18 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 23 Oct 2010 21:39
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Hey Shane, How's the clearance on the quick access cover on that particular sidewinder. Thinking of shopping for another pipe to make room for quicker access for clutch tuning at the track. Sorry for jacking Racheal's thread.


The cover will need machined in order to clear the pipe.

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AcadianaZX


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posted October 23, 2010 01:35 PM        
Thanks Shane
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Shane661


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posted October 25, 2010 01:44 PM        
I sent some throttle bodies up to Northernkaw (Harry) to have them bored out to 47mm. These were slated to go on my bike, with the new Competition CNC cylinder head. However, I've decided to give them a try on Racheal's stock motor bike for now.

Here they are:







You can see that the secondary shaft has also been thinned out, for better airflow. Stock ZX-14 throttle bodies are only 44mm. The 12R and Busa come from the factory with 46mm units.

I am installing these tomorrow.

Shane

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posted October 25, 2010 02:00 PM        
Nice - every extra little bit all adds up
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posted October 25, 2010 06:13 PM        
Keep us updated on how them 47's work??... What was the price to do them??
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Shane661


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posted October 25, 2010 06:14 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 26 Oct 2010 02:14
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Keep us updated on how them 47's work??... What was the price to do them??


$500 + SH.

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Shane661


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posted October 26, 2010 08:43 AM        
We spent about 2.5 hours working on the bike this morning.

Installed the new throttle bodies:



Also installed a BMC race filter, and an alunium access panel. The 06-07 bikes have a plastic panel that warps, and doesn't seal well.



I also relocated the Power Commander from under the fairing to under the seat.



I didn't affix the Power Commander to the undertail yet, we may be installing a Tiger Tail soon.

Here is the sound test of the CT:



It sounds a lot deeper than I thought it would. Pretty nice!

Shane

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AcadianaZX


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posted October 26, 2010 09:35 AM        
Nice
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posted October 26, 2010 07:27 PM        
We are trying to keep a few of these 47mm throttle bodies in stock now for exchange. But they don't stick around long since we sent a set to Rickey Gadson to try on his 1530 and picked up over 20 HP just from bolting them on. Word travels fast. We have seen 6 hp with a 1354cc with stock cams.

The 47's are also what is on Rickeys bike now with our head and cam package making 254 hp.
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Shane661


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posted October 27, 2010 03:53 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Oct 2010 02:59
Put the bike on the dyno today. I'll cut to the chase: 184.XX hp SAE. Just under 185. The bike made 165 (with Area P Slip-Ons) the the day after we purchased it, on the same dyno. Mods were: Brock's CT, no air filter, 47mm TB's, and MR9. I think there is more to be had with some tuning and maintenance on the bike...we have only put 2 miles on it since we took delivery. My bike made about the same hp with stock TB's. I do have short velocity stacks on mine, which bumped the power curve up a bit. My bike also 6k less miles on it, and a non o-ring chain. I think the real test of these big TB's will be at the track, particularly LSR.

Here are two pulls, and you can see the power gained from removing the BMC Race filter. These sets of pulls were done within about 10-15 minutes of each other:



CT pipe at full wail on the dyno:



CT at idle:



Overall a very busy day, and I have more updates to add soon. The bike is also wearing my BST rear rim for now.

Shane

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posted October 27, 2010 03:57 PM        
Nice vids and keep posting Shane. Thanks for the info
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Shane661


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posted October 27, 2010 06:30 PM        
I also inspected the clutch today:



I don't know if the prior owner installed a new one, but this thing looked mint. I was going to measure stack height, but when I examined the outer plates I said, "forget it". I installed 3 Brock's spacers while I was in there.

Shane

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posted October 27, 2010 07:50 PM        
Very cool mods. Thanks for sharing. I will be interesting to see what the head and tb do for your bike. Are you keeping the motor stock in your bike?
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posted October 27, 2010 07:59 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Oct 2010 04:11
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Very cool mods. Thanks for sharing. I will be interesting to see what the head and tb do for your bike. Are you keeping the motor stock in your bike?


As for my bike, I don't know yet. Right now, all steam ahead on her machine!

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posted October 28, 2010 03:53 AM        
Love the sound.
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posted October 28, 2010 04:02 AM        
Shane, it looks like you need some more ignition advance above 9000.

So those two pulls are with and without the airfilter?

What about stock throttle bodies and then the 47's?
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Shane661


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posted October 28, 2010 04:18 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Oct 2010 12:20
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Shane, it looks like you need some more ignition advance above 9000.

So those two pulls are with and without the airfilter?

What about stock throttle bodies and then the 47's?


Just didn't have time for that, Jim. We were only at the dyno for about an hour, and I didn't have time to remove the stock TB's from my bike to compare. Yes, we made 5 pulls...3 with filter and 2 without. I recalled the bike pulling more mph on top without the filter, and I wanted to see if the dyno showed anything in still air.

We are trying to get the bike ready for the track, and there is a lot to do.

I have an ignition module somewhere around here, lol.

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posted October 28, 2010 05:44 AM        Edited By: 14black on 28 Oct 2010 13:49
Shane, that's the original clutch - you can see that I never beat on that bike, and changed the oil several times.

So, is that my old bike on the dyno with your '07 tank on it, or did you put some Kaw decals on the '06 tank?

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Shane661


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posted October 28, 2010 06:45 AM        
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Shane, that's the original clutch - you can see that I never beat on that bike, and changed the oil several times.

So, is that my old bike on the dyno with your '07 tank on it, or did you put some Kaw decals on the '06 tank?


I put my tank on it for now. My tank has a low profile fuel pump (gives clearance for lowering the bike more), and has had plenty of MR9 through it. I have an '08 fuel pump to install in the 06 tank when I get time.

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ThunderCK


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posted October 28, 2010 09:39 AM        
Great thread with lotsof great info. Nice job bud just better hope Lucky does not read it
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posted October 28, 2010 09:57 AM        
quote:
Great thread with lotsof great info. Nice job bud just better hope Lucky does not read it


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