01smokes
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posted July 25, 2010 01:42 AM
It finnaly happened,
the turbo 14 has gave up the ghost. its knocking BAD i was racing a couple of sprayed liter bikes and it finally said enough is enough
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Hellmutt
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posted July 25, 2010 02:57 AM
Damnit..........hate to hear it, but it will give you an excuse to upgrade all of your internals if you still need to do so.........maybe bittersweet situation?? Best of luck on your rebuild smokes!!
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Beondwacko
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posted July 25, 2010 04:53 AM
This is the set up with 30K miles on it isn't it? Sorry for the bad news Smokes.
Do you do your own work or send it out?
Also, how many lbs of boost were you running and are you intercooled? The intercooler question may seem silly, but of the turbo threads I have read, I just realized that I don't remember if others went that route(or even if it's possible with such limited space available).
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oilfieldtrash
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posted July 25, 2010 08:00 AM
Admit it, you wanted it to blow so you could build a big bore. 
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01smokes
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posted July 25, 2010 08:10 AM
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Admit it, you wanted it to blow so you could build a big bore.
this wiss ne stock bore and stock stroke as much as possible the booza will get the big motor
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01smokes
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posted July 25, 2010 08:13 AM
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This is the set up with 30K miles on it isn't it? Sorry for the bad news Smokes.
Do you do your own work or send it out?
Also, how many lbs of boost were you running and are you intercooled? The intercooler question may seem silly, but of the turbo threads I have read, I just realized that I don't remember if others went that route(or even if it's possible with such limited space available).
no its not 30k on it there was 16k on this motor lots of nitrous and now boost, it was on 7psi last night but for the last 3k miles ive been riding it around on 12psi (330hp) and i go WOT as much as i can, no intercooler here i ran it on E85
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01smokes
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posted July 25, 2010 08:14 AM
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Admit it, you wanted it to blow so you could build a big bore.
this will stay stock bore and stock stroke as much as possible the booza will get the big motor lol
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Big_T112
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posted July 25, 2010 08:54 AM
Get rid of the balancers and up the oil pressue. I bet if you look it will be #3 rod. The bike your kit came off of had to have the bearings replaced every season. but that was at 390 HP. When we would take them out to put new ones in they would be worn enough to see the gold on the outside edges of the bearings. Lee's Performance told us on the big bore Nitrous 1000 Suzuki to replace the rod bearings every 30 passes. It's the only way they will live. The Turbo Busa will hold up about 2 seasons on rod bearings at 400 RWHP. Any more than that you are on borrowed time. They last longer depending on how you ride but what can you expect when you double the horsepower. It's a pain in the A** because you have to pull the motor but other than your time it cost less than $100 dollars to replace them.
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01smokes
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posted July 25, 2010 09:38 AM
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Get rid of the balancers and up the oil pressue. I bet if you look it will be #3 rod. The bike your kit came off of had to have the bearings replaced every season. but that was at 390 HP. When we would take them out to put new ones in they would be worn enough to see the gold on the outside edges of the bearings. Lee's Performance told us on the big bore Nitrous 1000 Suzuki to replace the rod bearings every 30 passes. It's the only way they will live. The Turbo Busa will hold up about 2 seasons on rod bearings at 400 RWHP. Any more than that you are on borrowed time. They last longer depending on how you ride but what can you expect when you double the horsepower. It's a pain in the A** because you have to pull the motor but other than your time it cost less than $100 dollars to replace them.
ya i think i knocked the bearings out of it i hope i didnt mess up the crank to bad, ill go pick it up on monday and pull the pan to inspect and get some pics for you guys on what i find
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Big_T112
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posted July 25, 2010 10:17 AM
If the rod has any discoloring at all get a new on. If it stacked a bearing save the time and get a new crank. Sometimes you can plasti gauge the rod clerance and use the next size thicker bearing to get the correct oil clerance. It's always best to go with new stuff and start over fresh. That way you can set up your time frame to change them out. It takes work to maintain maximum power. If you simply buy a used motor you really don't know what it has been through. maybe one of those squids owned it that thought it was cool to hold it on the rev limiter in front of his buddy's. Guys like that are moron's. red line the engine in neutral WTF!
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01smokes
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posted July 25, 2010 10:38 AM
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If the rod has any discoloring at all get a new on. If it stacked a bearing save the time and get a new crank. Sometimes you can plasti gauge the rod clerance and use the next size thicker bearing to get the correct oil clerance. It's always best to go with new stuff and start over fresh. That way you can set up your time frame to change them out. It takes work to maintain maximum power. If you simply buy a used motor you really don't know what it has been through. maybe one of those squids owned it that thought it was cool to hold it on the rev limiter in front of his buddy's. Guys like that are moron's. red line the engine in neutral WTF!
Ya i wont skimp once its apart it will get rods and pistons, and if the crank is done a new crank as well its gonna be pricy i think but. it should be running again in a couple months
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Big_T112
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posted July 25, 2010 12:34 PM
Good deal, with some scheduled Maint. you should be able to run it for a long time with no trouble. The biggest mistake people make is that they can throw a turbo system on there bike and make 250 RWHP and it live as long as a stock bike. And they will live a long time if your not making a lot of power or you only spool it up every now and then. With power there is a price.
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01smokes
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posted July 25, 2010 01:22 PM
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Good deal, with some scheduled Maint. you should be able to run it for a long time with no trouble. The biggest mistake people make is that they can throw a turbo system on there bike and make 250 RWHP and it live as long as a stock bike. And they will live a long time if your not making a lot of power or you only spool it up every now and then. With power there is a price.
Ya i hear you there i can honestly say last night i was beating the shit out of the bike bad, i had to have done at least ten 1-6 gear pulls and 7 back to back dig races and 2 top end pulls when i left my house and i would do this damn near every weekend, i am really surprised the motor lasted as long as it did. KOW did a damn good job on the 14 motor, now if it wasnt such a pain in the ass to work on lol
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Big_T112
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posted July 25, 2010 02:23 PM
If it was me I would turbo the Busa and make the 14 a Nitrous bike. They would both live longer like that. All you would need is a simple easy to find header and plenum
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posted July 27, 2010 05:52 AM
Let us know what you find Smokes.
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