boostphreak
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posted July 01, 2010 09:00 PM
Yeah thats what Iam running is a begi. I would love to run secondarys but right now I cant even upgrade the stock ones. my kids are being difficult, they think that they need to eat, and shoes ,a place to live , that kinda stuff ya know lol. I was riding tonight with another 14 and two busas, all of em turbo.all four of a little differant but any one of them a blast to ride.
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01smokes

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posted July 02, 2010 10:14 AM
ya i just turned my bike back down the other day i went from 12psi to 7psi about a 70-80hp difference and it feels SLOW as shit lol but its still fun
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posted July 02, 2010 10:21 AM
quote: Yeah thats what Iam running is a begi. I would love to run secondarys but right now I cant even upgrade the stock ones. my kids are being difficult, they think that they need to eat, and shoes ,a place to live , that kinda stuff ya know lol..
sell the kids
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Big_T112

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posted July 02, 2010 03:12 PM
I know the feeling, My oldest is on her second year at Miss. State and my middle daughter turns 16 in another month so I got to buy her a car. With the GT35R it made 572 H.P. but was only good for dyno runs. It came on like a light switch and was hard to ride. I dropped it down to the Garrett T3/04 Dual Ball bearing turbo and it made 418 H.P. and was very fast. I built the motor with all good parts and it is trouble free.
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posted July 02, 2010 03:32 PM
Damn Nice Busa. Have you any time slips??
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01smokes

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posted July 03, 2010 12:11 AM
quote: I know the feeling, My oldest is on her second year at Miss. State and my middle daughter turns 16 in another month so I got to buy her a car. With the GT35R it made 572 H.P. but was only good for dyno runs. It came on like a light switch and was hard to ride. I dropped it down to the Garrett T3/04 Dual Ball bearing turbo and it made 418 H.P. and was very fast. I built the motor with all good parts and it is trouble free.

do you remember the size of turbo i have on my bike, its like a damn mystery turbo lol, it works damn good what ever size it is, it comes in strong and makes some damn good power. Down in Houston the bike felt like a big block on nitrous lol it hit like a tank up here in ABQ New Mexico it takes a bit longer to light but when it does it pulls
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Big_T112

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posted July 03, 2010 06:41 AM
Yea it's a generic Garrett turbo same as is on the Busa (T3/04) but just not with the garrett name stamped on it. They are half the price and work just as well. It is all we use now. The Busa has seen a best of 8.13 @ 181mph in the 1/4 mile. I don't keep timeslips anymore because I have ran the bike so much. and they clutter up you trailor I wish Kawasaki would put the ZX14 motor in a naked bike like the B-king but make it look like and older KZ. not really like the ZRX. maybe a Z1R-14?
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posted July 03, 2010 08:04 AM
Edited By: 01smokes on 3 Jul 2010 16:07
quote: Yea it's a generic Garrett turbo same as is on the Busa (T3/04) but just not with the garrett name stamped on it. They are half the price and work just as well. It is all we use now. The Busa has seen a best of 8.13 @ 181mph in the 1/4 mile. I don't keep timeslips anymore because I have ran the bike so much. and they clutter up you trailor I wish Kawasaki would put the ZX14 motor in a naked bike like the B-king but make it look like and older KZ. not really like the ZRX. maybe a Z1R-14?
damn thats cookin, do you remember what the ET and MPH was for the turbo 14 you put together? ive only ran it a few times but ive been 9.42@154 on the spring and that was with the front tire in the air at the 1000' mark the bike is a 60" bike with a real hand clutch so its kinda hard to get rolling with out it seeing ALOT of sky
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Big_T112

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posted July 03, 2010 08:49 AM
It went cosistent 8.30's In the upper 160's on MPH. We never really got a chance to tune it fully and we were only using the AMS-500 boost controller. On the 14 it made power very aggressively and we were never really able to get a handle on it before the economy fell out. So it had some more in it. Power it had. We just never got the delivery down. times called for cut backs and that's how you got the turbo kit. The header you have we bought from muzzy.
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posted July 03, 2010 09:04 AM
quote: It went cosistent 8.30's In the upper 160's on MPH. We never really got a chance to tune it fully and we were only using the AMS-500 boost controller. On the 14 it made power very aggressively and we were never really able to get a handle on it before the economy fell out. So it had some more in it. Power it had. We just never got the delivery down. times called for cut backs and that's how you got the turbo kit. The header you have we bought from muzzy.
ya i remember you saying that it was a muzzy header, and i found most of the parts on the RCC web site, also was the charge pipe custom made or was that off the shelf.
Ya on the 12psi tune its just dangerous im thinking it will trap mid 160s on that tune but its way to hard to ride with out a boost controller, i still need to pick up a ams1k and ramp it in maybe than i will start knocking down some ET at this WB
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Big_T112

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posted July 03, 2010 12:18 PM
The dump pipe was custom made at a local muffler shop
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Shane661

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posted July 03, 2010 01:57 PM
5 psi is a good place to start, if you have a boost controller. It can make the bike controllable in 1st gear, even with a shorter wheelbase. And a shorter wheelbase is better for traction on the street. You can always add boost with the controller.
We had a 6 lb. spring on Racheals Busa. Stock wheelbase, launching on the spring, it went 8.8's at mid 160's,
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MADDOGC5

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posted July 04, 2010 09:12 PM
hey all you guys with turbo 14's what did you do to keep oil from pushing out of the crankcase breather. i have stock motored 14 with turbo (6psi boost) . i have a catch can on it right now but is there anything i can do to get it to stop pushing oil out the breather?
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posted July 04, 2010 11:26 PM
Remove the rubber pipe going down into the sump!
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Big_T112

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posted July 05, 2010 07:19 AM
Yep. what he said.
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boostphreak
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posted July 06, 2010 02:56 PM
thats a good lookin busa, where do you run at bigT?
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Big_T112

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posted July 07, 2010 08:16 AM
Steele, Alabama, Montgomery AL. Chilton county, Local stuff. I don't get to go a lot during Ball season when my girls are playing.
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Shane661

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posted July 07, 2010 10:21 AM
Who makes the Turbo pistons for the -2mm rods? Are they an off-the-shelf item now?
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boostphreak
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posted July 07, 2010 10:41 AM
good question shane, also if they are stock bore do they use the factory rings? Or I guess I should ask If they are drop in turbo pistons do the all use factory rings. I used JE pistons with stock length rods and they said use stock kaw rings...
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johnbull

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posted July 07, 2010 11:16 AM
I've just done that conversion on a ZX14 engine recently.
Falicon -2mm knife edge rods & MTC tall deck pistons to go with them. Both off-the-shelf products plus piston kit comes complete with rings,pins etc.
This set up gives you 11:1 compression ratio.
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posted July 07, 2010 11:17 AM
11:1 would be very high for a 400 hp land speed app....sounds like a nitrous piston??
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johnbull

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posted July 07, 2010 11:33 AM
Its a turbo piston with 11:1 on stock head gasket.
MTC have thicker gaskets in order to reduce compression ratio.
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boostphreak
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posted July 07, 2010 11:35 AM
JE turbo pistons are 9:5 with a stock head gasket
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Shane661

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posted July 07, 2010 11:52 AM
quote: JE turbo pistons are 9:5 with a stock head gasket
With standard rods, correct? The -2mm rod seems the way to go, allowing for much room above the top ring land.
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Big_T112

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posted July 07, 2010 12:29 PM
JE with shorter rods was just below 9:0 comp. a slouch off boost but was flying.
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