boostphreak
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posted June 26, 2010 09:47 PM
I havent run that much boost on this bike yet. what year was the frame and where were the leaks? mine is an 09. I dont know if it makes a diff
  
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NinjaNick
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posted June 27, 2010 02:00 AM
Do we have to dump out to the side or are we able to use a pipe like normal to keep ground clearance for turning?
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Big_T112
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posted June 27, 2010 06:55 AM
They have full exhaust for them but you could cut the dump pipe flush with the faring. The frames are the same. Most trouble we had was where the airfilter goes in. We ended up welding a piece of aluminum over it. There were some good sized leaks under the steering head. all of the bolt attachment points. about 12 places to fix. but on a streetkit where you only want lower boost it should not be as big of a problem. If we do another one we will modify the frame and cut it so we can fit a plenum.
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boostphreak
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posted June 27, 2010 07:17 AM
the pipe that comes with the kit is a full pipe. It goes under the oil pan and exits behind the right peg. all stainless.with removeable baffle.
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gilberjj
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posted June 27, 2010 08:49 PM
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the pipe that comes with the kit is a full pipe. It goes under the oil pan and exits behind the right peg. all stainless.with removeable baffle.
He makes a dump tube too. I'm trading my full muffler for a dump tube because I too will have a boxed oil pan...... plus the dump tube looks way better too! 
BTW: Where did you find the 5 psi actuators? I've been looking everywhere and can't find anything. I think I'm just going to stick with the internal wastegates for now to make it easy. Later I can upgrade....
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boostphreak
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posted June 27, 2010 10:20 PM
where are you buying your turbo from? they should be able to supply you with any actuator you want.. I dont know about all the turbos but we had to make a new bracket to move the actuator on the turbo and make a new rod going to the flapper valve because of clearance issues.!!!
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gilberjj
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posted June 28, 2010 10:27 AM
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where are you buying your turbo from? they should be able to supply you with any actuator you want.. I dont know about all the turbos but we had to make a new bracket to move the actuator on the turbo and make a new rod going to the flapper valve because of clearance issues.!!!
I don't know where I'll buy from yet. I've been asking certain dealers if they offer a 5 psi actuator and I either don't get any response back, or they say they only offer the .8 bar (12 psi). I might just have to go external. How did you mount the external wastegate? Did you put a diveder in the turbine houseing and simply take off the flapper and weld on a tube connected to the external? Or did you cut into the collector on the header? PICTURES????????
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01smokes
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posted June 28, 2010 10:34 AM
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where are you buying your turbo from? they should be able to supply you with any actuator you want.. I dont know about all the turbos but we had to make a new bracket to move the actuator on the turbo and make a new rod going to the flapper valve because of clearance issues.!!!
I don't know where I'll buy from yet. I've been asking certain dealers if they offer a 5 psi actuator and I either don't get any response back, or they say they only offer the .8 bar (12 psi). I might just have to go external. How did you mount the external wastegate? Did you put a diveder in the turbine houseing and simply take off the flapper and weld on a tube connected to the external? Or did you cut into the collector on the header? PICTURES????????
just wondering why do you only wanna run 5psi?
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boostphreak
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posted June 28, 2010 10:53 AM
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where are you buying your turbo from? they should be able to supply you with any actuator you want.. I dont know about all the turbos but we had to make a new bracket to move the actuator on the turbo and make a new rod going to the flapper valve because of clearance issues.!!!
I don't know where I'll buy from yet. I've been asking certain dealers if they offer a 5 psi actuator and I either don't get any response back, or they say they only offer the .8 bar (12 psi). I might just have to go external. How did you mount the external wastegate? Did you put a diveder in the turbine houseing and simply take off the flapper and weld on a tube connected to the external? Or did you cut into the collector on the header? PICTURES????????
just wondering why do you only wanna run 5psi?
I did cause it was bone stock and was being safe. but it wont do anybody any good cause once you ride it with 5# its not enough. and then the big quest for more boost starts and before you know it your a boost junkie...lol
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boostphreak
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posted June 28, 2010 10:56 AM
 I will try to post a few better pics after work today
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NINJA12
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posted June 28, 2010 11:33 AM
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where are you buying your turbo from? they should be able to supply you with any actuator you want.. I dont know about all the turbos but we had to make a new bracket to move the actuator on the turbo and make a new rod going to the flapper valve because of clearance issues.!!!
I don't know where I'll buy from yet. I've been asking certain dealers if they offer a 5 psi actuator and I either don't get any response back, or they say they only offer the .8 bar (12 psi). I might just have to go external. How did you mount the external wastegate? Did you put a diveder in the turbine houseing and simply take off the flapper and weld on a tube connected to the external? Or did you cut into the collector on the header? PICTURES????????
just wondering why do you only wanna run 5psi?
I did cause it was bone stock and was being safe. but it wont do anybody any good cause once you ride it with 5# its not enough. and then the big quest for more boost starts and before you know it your a boost junkie...lol
Do yourself a favor and get the turbo piston now, and save yourself some money and headache.
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NINJA12
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posted June 28, 2010 11:35 AM
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that's the only color I would trade my 06 blue .
Nice looking bike.
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01smokes
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posted June 28, 2010 02:50 PM
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where are you buying your turbo from? they should be able to supply you with any actuator you want.. I dont know about all the turbos but we had to make a new bracket to move the actuator on the turbo and make a new rod going to the flapper valve because of clearance issues.!!!
I don't know where I'll buy from yet. I've been asking certain dealers if they offer a 5 psi actuator and I either don't get any response back, or they say they only offer the .8 bar (12 psi). I might just have to go external. How did you mount the external wastegate? Did you put a diveder in the turbine houseing and simply take off the flapper and weld on a tube connected to the external? Or did you cut into the collector on the header? PICTURES????????
just wondering why do you only wanna run 5psi?
I did cause it was bone stock and was being safe. but it wont do anybody any good cause once you ride it with 5# its not enough. and then the big quest for more boost starts and before you know it your a boost junkie...lol
Yep its pointless lol EVERYONE turns it up, its just to easy to make power, just run GOOD fuel and DONT do crazy long pulls and it will live
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boostphreak
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posted June 28, 2010 02:57 PM
I agree with ninja12, it will cost twice as much to fix a hurt motor compared to building a more turbo friendly motor now. drop in stock bore turbo pistons, valve springs, and oil mods at the least.. If you can make yourself hold off that long. I couldnt and didnt. but I just didnt have the money at the time.
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01smokes
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posted June 28, 2010 03:15 PM
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I agree with ninja12, it will cost twice as much to fix a hurt motor compared to building a more turbo friendly motor now. drop in stock bore turbo pistons, valve springs, and oil mods at the least.. If you can make yourself hold off that long. I couldnt and didnt. but I just didnt have the money at the time.
Did you pop your motor? if so what went?
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boostphreak
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posted June 29, 2010 06:06 AM
It was still running but it was hurt. and it had been tuned by one of the best. bad as I hate to say it , it was my fault. The air shifter didnt shift and I stayed on the rev limiter to long. anybody running a turbo STAY OFF THE REV LIMITER lol. it doesnt kill the spark. It kills the fuel to two cyl. and we all know what happens when you go lean on boost..
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boostphreak
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posted June 29, 2010 06:14 AM
hey guys not meaning to jack my own thread but my little brother wrecked his 14 this last wk end. his bracket on the nitrous bottle broke and he attempted to run over the bottle. didnt work!!broke his foot ,lots of road rash fractured wrist. good thing he had a helmet on (strapped to the side of his bike) it took most of the abuse to the bike.
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1badvespa1400cc
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posted June 29, 2010 07:11 AM
Hope he is doing okay.
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01smokes
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posted June 29, 2010 08:04 AM
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It was still running but it was hurt. and it had been tuned by one of the best. bad as I hate to say it , it was my fault. The air shifter didnt shift and I stayed on the rev limiter to long. anybody running a turbo STAY OFF THE REV LIMITER lol. it doesnt kill the spark. It kills the fuel to two cyl. and we all know what happens when you go lean on boost..
Ya i hear you there on the rev limiter thing
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fbmbks
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posted June 29, 2010 09:15 AM
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hey guys not meaning to jack my own thread but my little brother wrecked his 14 this last wk end. his bracket on the nitrous bottle broke and he attempted to run over the bottle. didnt work!!broke his foot ,lots of road rash fractured wrist. good thing he had a helmet on (strapped to the side of his bike) it took most of the abuse to the bike.
holy hell! is this a common problem?
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gilberjj
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posted June 30, 2010 01:38 PM
In for pics!!!!!
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CajunBoyz
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posted June 30, 2010 02:54 PM
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It was still running but it was hurt. and it had been tuned by one of the best. bad as I hate to say it , it was my fault. The air shifter didnt shift and I stayed on the rev limiter to long. anybody running a turbo STAY OFF THE REV LIMITER lol. it doesnt kill the spark. It kills the fuel to two cyl. and we all know what happens when you go lean on boost..
When RR showed the Igniton map for the 14 a while back, I noitced that. It be good to get a ECU done without speed restrictor , & right @ & after shiftpoint pull timing.
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Big_T112
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posted June 30, 2010 06:08 PM
We fried the pistons, had to have the cylinders replated. Not enough fuel with too much boost in the 1/4 mile. 2mm shorter rods with turbo pistons and never had any problems again. 390 H.P.at the wheel. Pulled REALLY hard. Kind of sucks when you jump back on a stock bike.
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boostphreak
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posted July 01, 2010 04:33 AM
ha ha yeah ,getting back on a stocker is a last resort. we started to map my new motor last night and noticed right off that the fuel pump wasnt keeping up. when it boosted the pressure climbed up there safe and then just started dropping off . gonna replace the pump and start over this wk end. maybe have some numbers for you guys soon.
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Big_T112
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posted July 01, 2010 05:54 PM
It held about 90 lbs of fuel pressure at 18-19 lbs. of boost. We used a BEGI 2025 Rising rate reg. Make sure you get one of the newer ones. the old ones had a thin shim that could be damaged by the plunger. the new ones are indestructable with no problems. Or better yet fit secondary injectors like on my Velocity stage 3 kit on the busa. here is the old black turd at Steadman Motor Sports with a T3/04 Garret on it. 403 at the wheel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsDBDRJ1yC0 sorry for the crapy vid, I didn't take it.
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