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posted June 13, 2010 05:45 PM
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AMA Dragbike Gump AL. (pics) mostly ZX14's
I road the Road King down to Montgomery AL. for the AMA Dragbike race. It was HOT but here is a little of what I saw while I was there. First I went to the Brock's setup and looked over the new BMW 1000's and they really are some nice looking bikes. He had two of them, one was a streched one for display that i never saw move and the other was the one Kieth Dennis was riding in SS. I even talked to Shine about the bike and he said it had a lot of power but not much torque which means they had it geared low and made it hard to ride. And if Kieth Dennis says it's hard to ride then you know us regular guys would have trouble. But hey it was stock wheelbase and we know more power is harder to control. It has a TON of electronic gadgets on it that had to be bypassed. Anyway in the first round he drew Richard Gadson on a Monster Energy ZX14 and was KILLED with a 9.05 from the ZX14. I think the best the BMW did stock wheelbase was a 9.17, I don't remeber the MPH. Here is a pic of there setup. The BMW is not ready for a Busa or 14 stock wheelbase.
Next Adams Performance had two Nitrous ZX14's that were flying. I think Rickey Gadson on the green one was the #1 Qualifier. But in the first round it looked like someone either did not turn his air on for the airshifter or a line busted. you could hear the motor kill but no shift. Bummer he went out the first round in a sea of Turbo Hayabusa's I did notice that the turbo's with there big power were spinning on the big end of the track at over 170 mph. The blue 14 was also fast and was #1 in his class. But some guy on a Turbo Busa cut a .005 light on him and won with a 8.07 to the ZX14's faster 8.01. here is a pic of the two bikes
Orient Express brought some fast Turbo Bikes including this gold and black turbo 14 that was flying.
I never saw this bike run but it was with Rickey Gadson.
this guy had a turbo and a wide tire kit and ran in the Street Fighter class which was the biggest class and had a 9.50 index. sorry for the finger.
The turn out for racers was horrible, We have more bikes on our once a month races. The stands had 4 spectators including me. here is a pic of the stands during the big show. It was really bad.
This 14 was nice looking
And of course some fast Turbo Busa's
  
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posted June 13, 2010 06:09 PM
If I rememer correctly roger starrette owns the zx14's in the 2nd pic. Roger is one of the nicest guys I have ever met at the track. He's the one that go my shift light working for me at AMA in Atlanta.
The red turbo'd zx15 with the crazy paint job is a great guy as well. Met him for the first time in Atlanta at AMA. That bike has potential to be fast but it's a daily driver for him.
I can't believe no one showed up to watch these bikes... I understand times are tough but if people don't support these events I don't know what will happen. I know we are having problems with that in SEMDRA. Bike couture has been too low all year.
Thanks for sharif the pics! I would have loved to been there but we had a wedding we couldn't miss sat.
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posted June 13, 2010 06:15 PM
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If I rememer correctly roger starrette owns the zx14's in the 2nd pic. Roger is one of the nicest guys I have ever met at the track. He's the one that go my shift light working for me at AMA in Atlanta.
The red turbo'd zx15 with the crazy paint job is a great guy as well. Met him for the first time in Atlanta at AMA. That bike has potential to be fast but it's a daily driver for him.
I can't believe no one showed up to watch these bikes... I understand times are tough but if people don't support these events I don't know what will happen. I know we are having problems with that in SEMDRA. Bike couture has been too low all year.
Thanks for sharif the pics! I would have loved to been there but we had a wedding we couldn't miss sat.
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posted June 14, 2010 04:44 AM
Yea I talked with some of the AMA guys and they said it has been like this for a while. I wonder how long they can keep this up. they can't be making any money. The only top fuel bike I saw run was Larry McBride and the Spiderman bike. None of the Top fuel Harleys were there that I saw. Some of the Pro Mod bikes were just running the 1/8th mile and were going low 4.20's @ high 160's. It was $25 dollars to get in and watch. that's a lot to sit in 100 degree weather and watch the races.
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posted June 14, 2010 05:28 AM
Those AMA races have been like that for a a few years. I don't understand how they keep going. let's face it most of us are average riders so who's going to go and try to run with shine, rickey,richard so on, get my point. when real street started it was suppose to be a class for the average guy so they could run a heads up class, well look at tha,t it's shot in the ass to. we all like seeing bikes go fast but it's left 90% of the guys out that would go race. think what the bike count in those classes would be if some of the guys where not running in two or 3 classes. that's why the 9.50 class is the biggest becuase anyone can go run that. they need to change alot of things IMO and make the races for the 90% of people and not the 10 to 15 heavy hitters that travel to all the races. Just my opion tho. I know I won't race at one even if it was close it ends up being somewhere around 150.00 just to enter the 9.50 class. And lets see they keep paying like 4000.00 or 5000.00 to win top fuel and I think this is the 2nd or 3rd race where spider man was the only bike. how about killing that class and putting that money somewhere else. but hey i guess someone is getting paid to manage ama races and it's not me.
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posted June 14, 2010 05:54 AM
I agree bently, it's redicilous. To run street et both days and street fighter you will spend $300+ and that's insane. A 9.0 class or 9.10 class would get a bunch of guys. I really dislike the AMA, but i try to support our stuff or it won't be around anymore. It's also not fair for pro riders to run in the lower classes (Jeremy teasley for example) in street et. If your a pro rider I think you should stay in pro classes.
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posted June 14, 2010 06:17 AM
I don't have a problem with those guys in street et. it's dail your own time so they have no advantage to me and I would run them all day long.
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posted June 14, 2010 08:30 AM
Edited By: Quarter Pounder on 14 Jun 2010 16:31
I'll get flamed for this, but I think that the GenII turbo busa set up for drags is a damn good looking hotrod. Those wasp looking tails on them are wicked. 14s just don't have that same killer look all slammed and stretched out IMO.
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posted June 14, 2010 08:42 AM
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I don't have a problem with those guys in street et. it's dail your own time so they have no advantage to me and I would run them all day long.
my money would be on the pro rider
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posted June 14, 2010 09:13 AM
Really? you might lose your money. I'm not the best but on a bracket tree and dial in I can hold in there pretty well. last race I was at 3 weeks ago in the final I went .015 on the tree and ran a 10.41 on a 10.39 dial and I scrubbed the brakes just alittle. went 4 10.41s and 4 .040 or better lights. worse light was an .78 I had 6 wins last year and been to two races this year with two wins. but I thank where of subject now.
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posted June 14, 2010 09:28 AM
Bently
I see your point about RST but with a small built bike and a fly weight it is a beginner class. It's like me bitching about not being allowed to play linebacker for the NFL. Ever seen a big horse jockey? It's because they don't win shit. Leave heads up racing to the little guys. All the fastest guys are tiny. 
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posted June 14, 2010 09:30 AM
What keeps a lot of riders from entering say Street Fighter class, the 9.50 index. Is the fact that AMA requires a one piece racing suite and certified shoes. Most of the street bikes produced by the factory will run 9.50's and most of the guys that ride them on the street don't have full race leathers and shoes. Most of them are not going to buy them either. I think safety is great and you should have a minimum of jacket, gloves and high top shoes. They have priced the average guy with a streetbike who would ride in and race out of the game. It's a shame really, I remember going to some of the Prostar races in Atlanta and Memphis and there would be tons of bikes in all classes. I saw Brock Davidson when he was riding the Bandit 1200 and there were a couple of old school GS1100/1150's and those guys from TX. Highlands Kawasaki had a Turbo ZX11 and a ZRX11 turbo. It was before the Busa and they even had some GSXR1100's in the mix. most were Nitrous bikes. The people would all stand up in the stands when they went down the track and you could hear the booming backfires as they shifted. now that was a show and good racing.
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posted June 14, 2010 10:02 AM
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I see your point about RST but with a small built bike and a fly weight it is a beginner class. It's like me bitching about not being allowed to play linebacker for the NFL. Ever seen a big horse jockey? It's because they don't win shit. Leave heads up racing to the little guys. All the fastest guys are tiny.
That's where I don't agree, you take the bike and a fly weight average rider and he won't come close to a 7.90 anything. it takes one hell of a 60 ft and 330 ft for those times along with a lot of tricks to the bike your average rider don't know. and plus your allowed more wheelbase in rst if you weigh more. point is how many average riders at your local track no matter what they weigh are going 7.90's 8.0's. don't happen around here. it takes a hell of lot more then a light weight to go from say 8.60's to 7.90's but hey I don't claim to no much this is just my opion. The way I see it noone will have to worry about it for much longer because I don't see how they can keep putting on races with this kind of interest in bike and spectator counts.
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posted June 14, 2010 10:03 AM
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What keeps a lot of riders from entering say Street Fighter class, the 9.50 index. Is the fact that AMA requires a one piece racing suite and certified shoes. Most of the street bikes produced by the factory will run 9.50's and most of the guys that ride them on the street don't have full race leathers and shoes. Most of them are not going to buy them either. I think safety is great and you should have a minimum of jacket, gloves and high top shoes. They have priced the average guy with a streetbike who would ride in and race out of the game. It's a shame really, I remember going to some of the Prostar races in Atlanta and Memphis and there would be tons of bikes in all classes. I saw Brock Davidson when he was riding the Bandit 1200 and there were a couple of old school GS1100/1150's and those guys from TX. Highlands Kawasaki had a Turbo ZX11 and a ZRX11 turbo. It was before the Busa and they even had some GSXR1100's in the mix. most were Nitrous bikes. The people would all stand up in the stands when they went down the track and you could hear the booming backfires as they shifted. now that was a show and good racing.
I thought you could have two piece leathers as long as they zipped together?
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posted June 14, 2010 10:56 AM
You can have two piece leathers BTW. The guys that you're speaking of in RST are the best of the best that run 7.90's an 8.40 would have qualified most right in the mix. Let's face it I won't be running any 7.90's with my current setup. However, with a 30 shot I could be in the hunt at 62". I agree though AMA can't continue on like this.
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posted June 14, 2010 11:51 AM
OK I didn't read all of the rules. Basically it's your average guys are not racing in the AMA events. maybe Street E.T. but there were very few bikes in it. Mostly all of the bikes in the other classes were in street E.T.
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posted June 14, 2010 12:41 PM
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You can have two piece leathers BTW. The guys that you're speaking of in RST are the best of the best that run 7.90's an 8.40 would have qualified most right in the mix. Let's face it I won't be running any 7.90's with my current setup. However, with a 30 shot I could be in the hunt at 62". I agree though AMA can't continue on like this.
That's my point way take a 8.40 bike to a race where the top 3 or 4 run 7.90's to 8.0s just so I can say I got spanked by one of the pro riders. But there again that's just me I'm not dishing out 200 to 300 dollars for a race day just to say I made the field. if I don't have a chance to win a class my money stays in my wallet. and if your running 8.40's and want to run 7.90's it takes alot more to pick up that .40 then it does to go from say 9.80 to 9.40. the faster your going the more it takes to lower your time. I don't understand the guys that will run an index class of say 10.50 or 9.50 and there .20 away from the index, there just first rd bait. you better be able to run .20 under a givin index to have a chance.
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posted June 14, 2010 01:07 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 14 Jun 2010 21:09
fluck the AMA . They got what they wanted . nobody showing up
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posted June 14, 2010 03:12 PM
I have been running prostar on and off for years and have been increasingly disgusted with them. It seems I am not alone, you all seemed to touch on what I leave thinking. Lets face it, I can get my ass kicked at my local track all year for what I spend to get my ass kicked at just two ama races. Last year I went to Norwalk and took my son for the first time. He is ten and rides a KLX110 and loves dragracing. I went early on friday to get a good pit spot so he would be close to the line and I could keep an eye on him while I was in line to race. I unloaded in the cold rain and got everything set up so we could just relax and kick back the rest of the night. After a very short time and lady on a scooter buzz's up and asks what classes I am entered in. I told her street et and streetfighter. She then expalined to me that I had to move a quarter mile down the pits because the area I was in was reserved for the pro classes. I know how far it was because I went from even with the starting lines to looking at the score boards. At the end of Saturday night I was qualifed no.6 I believe in streetfighter and got down to the last four in street and was still pissed off. My kid was walking a half mile every pass I made. I think Scott Valetti wrecked every prostock bike he ever rode and I think his inabilities are showing up again in Prostar. A few weeks ago we had the Dash for Cash for the first time in like 15 years at Muncie dragway and they sold over 200 tech cards, maybe Valetti could learn a thing or two from Tim Mills.
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posted June 14, 2010 03:20 PM
Here is the thing that sucks the most. In the southeast what other series runs a drag racing series for motorcycles? AMA is the only organized event that comes close to the southeast unless you want to run 1/8th mile. I could care less one way or another about the AMA and quite frankly all I do is T&T anyways. If there was a series in the southeast exclusively I bet it would do well.
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posted June 14, 2010 03:40 PM
Chad that would be semdra.
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posted June 14, 2010 03:41 PM
Semdra is 1/8th mile and they have no heads up classes.
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posted June 14, 2010 03:51 PM
We had a heads up race a few years ago ... I came in 3 rd in points for the year ...What killed it was a 325 pound 1170 gixxer with a slider at 70+ inches long and Big spray .. It was to be a street bike class but that didn't last long .. First race we had 10 bikes , second race we had 13 bike and then it went down hill real fast ... Last race was just me and Jesse .. Nobody wanted to run a full out grudge bike with there street bikes .. Take a guess who wrote the rules ? That's right the guy that owned the grudge bike ..
The owner of the track said never again will he run motorcycle race ..
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posted June 14, 2010 04:03 PM
So what do we do to get all these guys back to the track??
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posted June 14, 2010 04:14 PM
The owner of the track said never again will he run motorcycle race ..
Sounds like the owner should have been more aware or made aware of what was happening as far as streetbikes grudging n 70+ BIG SPRAY bikes, lol, I guess you dont know what he was running since it was grudge but did u ever hear what he runs on the regular
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