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zx14kawboi


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posted June 12, 2010 09:57 PM        Edited By: zx14kawboi on 13 Jun 2010 06:22
switched to e 85

hope it doesnt blow up

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posted June 12, 2010 11:02 PM        
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zx14kawboi


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posted June 13, 2010 07:22 AM        Edited By: zx14kawboi on 13 Jun 2010 15:23
ive been wantig to try e 85 for abt two years now so i finally did,since i have a pc3 i made acouple maps ,4 to be excact, and headed to the dyno .i dont have same day dyno results but here is what i learned.in 50 degree weather on 87 octane my bike made 176 hp and 105 ft lbs, on e85 it made 182 and 110 ft lbs. in 92 degree heat i would post my runs if i had them his printer is down but e 85 was stronger every where .it pulls real hard now,at least it feels like it.just remember this was in 92 degree heat and i dont know how heat affects motors on alcohol
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posted June 13, 2010 10:10 AM        
I had it for over a year and everything is fine!
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posted June 13, 2010 10:18 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Jun 2010 18:19
It's great to hear that this works.

Back when it was first mentioned, my concern was conductivity. E85 is condcutive, and the fuel pump has exposed, non-insulated wiring.

To me, these are the type of issues that require scrutiny. I am sure that this would be an issue to anyone who understands the ramifications of a miscalculation. The logic of, "hasn't blown up yet!" doesn't really make sense to me.

I still say, be careful when the outside dewpoint drops!


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zx14kawboi


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posted June 13, 2010 10:42 AM        Edited By: zx14kawboi on 13 Jun 2010 18:49
i have also been really concerned about the fuel pump and the conductivity of ethanol but i havent heard of any issues so far, but im probably going to change my fuel pump anyway as soon as i can being laid off sux oh yeah i must add that it runs way cooler now and i also think that theres a lil more power to be gained if i richen my map up a lil more from 6500 rpm and up
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posted June 13, 2010 10:54 AM        
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i have also been really concerned about the fuel pump and the conductivity of ethanol but i havent heard of any issues so far, but im probably going to change my fuel pump anyway as soon as i can being laid off sux oh yeah i must add that it runs way cooler now and i also think that theres a lil more power to be gained if i richen my map up a lil more from 6500 rpm and up


what are your AFRs set at now, and ya my bike runs COLD now like really cold even with the turbo it only gets to 2 bars in traffic and once im rolling it goes down to 1 bar
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zx14kawboi


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posted June 13, 2010 11:09 AM        
it flucuates from around 11.8 to around 12 on the upper end . i mite try to get it at 11.7 all the way across if i dont run out of band width
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posted June 13, 2010 11:14 AM        
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it flucuates from around 11.8 to around 12 on the upper end . i mite try to get it at 11.7 all the way across if i dont run out of band width


right now mine is set at 11.6 on boost, E85 is weird ive seen it make killer power rich as shit like 11.0 on a NA car and some times it will make killer power leaned way out like in the 15.5 range. all i do know is im sold on E85,
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posted June 13, 2010 11:15 AM        
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it flucuates from around 11.8 to around 12 on the upper end . i mite try to get it at 11.7 all the way across if i dont run out of band width


oh also what year of bike do you have, and whats the duty cycle at on the injectors
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zx14kawboi


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posted June 13, 2010 11:28 AM        
its an 06 and i saw 89%
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zx14kawboi


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posted June 13, 2010 12:00 PM        
its an 06 and i saw 89%
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