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posted June 07, 2010 12:30 PM
Sick of the cct rattle!
Ok, I an going to do something about it. First I would like to get my options straight.
1. Do nothing
2. CCT mod
3. Manual cct?
Can I replace it with a new oem one? If so do I need to remove the cam cover to release the tensioner like the shop manual states?
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Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
  
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smokinZX14
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posted June 07, 2010 12:32 PM
Modded zx12 CCT ..
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SLVR_BLT
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posted June 07, 2010 12:34 PM
1. Do nothing. That is if it only does it at start up.
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posted June 07, 2010 12:38 PM
I could do nothing, but im sick of the looks from everyone when I start it and it rattles, kinda sucks. Im a bit lost on this topic, is the zx12 mod hydrolic to?
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Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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SLVR_BLT
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posted June 07, 2010 01:11 PM
ZX12 from what i heard is not, its a ratchet style auto tensioner.
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epd345
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posted June 07, 2010 02:19 PM
Ya mine rattles like hell also, I'm sick of so I think I'm gonna try my local Kawi dealer and see if they will cover it under warranty.
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CajunBoyz
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posted June 07, 2010 02:32 PM
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Modded zx12 CCT ..
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1badzx12r
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posted June 07, 2010 02:40 PM
i've discovered that some CCT rattle worst than others just by changing it out may fix the issue ..
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oilfieldtrash
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posted June 07, 2010 02:46 PM
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I could do nothing, but im sick of the looks from everyone when I start it and it rattles, kinda sucks.
Thats when you get off the bike and start looking around and yelling what's up motherf@ckers? What you want some of this?
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SLVR_BLT
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posted June 07, 2010 02:46 PM
Mine haven't been bad besides the 2-3 second clacking noise on cold starts only.
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LAB3
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posted June 07, 2010 03:03 PM
ZX-12 modded if your not into adjusting a manual. Darin has a post about a mod for the ZX-14 CCT. Makes it manual.
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted June 07, 2010 03:25 PM
quote:
Ok, I an going to do something about it. First I would like to get my options straight.
1. Do nothing
2. CCT mod
3. Manual cct?
Can I replace it with a new oem one? If so do I need to remove the cam cover to release the tensioner like the shop manual states?
Modding the stock CCT is a great economical way to go but only attempt if you are good with fabbing up parts . If you got a few dollars burn get a carpenters or APE.
Or do nothing unless it was like mine that rattled forever and or rattle after hitting the rev limiter.
And yes installing a new CCT or any stock CCT requires you to remove the cam cover to release the C-clip.
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Nelson Taylor
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posted June 07, 2010 03:44 PM
I changed my oil and that has helped with reducing the rattle to 3-5 seconds, then its done.
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LAB3
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posted June 07, 2010 04:15 PM
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I changed my oil and that has helped with reducing the rattle to 3-5 seconds, then its done.
I have tried three different brands of Motorcycle oil..........always a rattle for 1 or 2 seconds on cold start then all is quiet. I just changed to Amsoil 10W40 and same as Mobil 1 4T full syn.
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87gtNOS
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posted June 07, 2010 04:17 PM
just do the manual APE unit...after I did mine, I kicked my self in the ass for not doing it earlier!!! Don't procrastinate!!
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posted June 07, 2010 06:01 PM
I got a Busa fixed the rattle  lol...Loved My 14s....Cheers
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epd345
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posted June 07, 2010 06:16 PM
Mine is starting to rattle longer than 3 seconds on cold startup and its forcing me to turn the bike off and then restart it. It then goes away on the second restart.
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posted June 07, 2010 06:33 PM
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I could do nothing, but im sick of the looks from everyone when I start it and it rattles, kinda sucks.
Thats when you get off the bike and start looking around and yelling what's up motherf@ckers? What you want some of this?
LOL ohh man thats good!
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Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted June 07, 2010 06:48 PM
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Mine is starting to rattle longer than 3 seconds on cold startup and its forcing me to turn the bike off and then restart it. It then goes away on the second restart.
Uh/Oh ! Watch out , rattling after hitting the rev limiter could be next like mine was doing 
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ZXGRIFF
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posted June 07, 2010 06:49 PM
Try Amsoil motorcycle oil. Cured mine.
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blackbullet76
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posted June 07, 2010 09:01 PM
Mine done it constantly. Sounded like shit at idle even after it was warmed up. I put the manual piece on and I love it!
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted June 07, 2010 11:15 PM
I know how that was! Mine had a mind of it's own though . Not no more 
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LAB3
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posted June 08, 2010 03:21 AM
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Try Amsoil motorcycle oil. Cured mine.
Weird, did not work on mine. Still have 1 or 2 seconds of rattle on cold start only then all is quiet.running Amsoil 10W40 motorcycle oil and OEM filter. Change both every 2500.or less. Ride it until it is out of warranty. Modded ZX-12 or??? then.
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speedgene
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posted June 08, 2010 08:16 AM
It is my assumption, you set the bike on the dyno, that brake just wrinkles that system all up on the cct shaft. No noise WOTSOEVER until you met a brake dyno > ON LIFT! So, something is either missing, collapsed, or stretched, if no clip is missing(?) or something else popped off? You drop pan looking for tiny parts?
Cause and Effect stay off the dyno! > "Thats when you get off the bike and start looking around and yelling what's up motherf@ckers?"
I've got die know dis ease is WOT chew know is know the last thing you did to make the noise happen that never was there before! Gee, D'uh, let me think!
POPISSCORN $EYE CON take it anymore... 'WOT, chew want some of dis?'
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neil1849
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posted June 03, 2011 11:08 AM
Hi from England, I realize that this is an old thread but I will chip in with my experience of the stock tensioner vs the ape manual unit vs the modded zx12 tensioner. The problem with the stock tensioner is that it can rattle and is difficult and time consuming to change. The manual tensioner cures the rattle and in my opinion is not too difficult to set. Also it is relatively cheap to buy. However I found it necessary to mess about with it to get it to fit and was not impressed with the quality. The modified zx 12 tensioner is the way to go in my experience because it can be fitted in five minutes and cures the rattle . Furthermore it is fit and forget. In addition one can periodically check how far it has extended without removing the tensioner and this gives a good idea cam chain stretch / wear if any. The down side is the cost of the zx12 tensioner plus it has to be modified by removing 125 thou or 1/8 of an inch from the mounting face . Once again a five minute job but you do need a lathe or milling machine. However after trying the ape manual I bought the 12 tensioner and modified it on my friends lathe and never looked back.........
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