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posted May 31, 2010 05:16 AM
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Smokin I like the extra hp also you say mill the head how much? Clean up the bowls? You mean some porting or deburring the ports? Sorry can't give you any biz unless by mail but curious how this would work out for street riding.
We milled .020 off the head and a bowl clean up .. Matt does a little work on the intake short side of the bowl to improve flow numbers ..The head gets a fresh valve job on top of the other work .. You will need to run 92 or 93 pump gas .. You will need adjustable cam gears so you can set your cam timing .. The head 100% streetable ... Jesse's zx14 is his daily driver , he rides it to the track and to work .. Other than making more power the bike is just like a stocker on the street ..
Only problem i had with Jesse bike with the modded head was banging the rev limiter ..It revs so damn fast you hit the limiter so fast it's not even funny ..From 7000 to the limiter it pulls so much harder it's a bit scary to you untill get used to it ... A shift light would be a big help ..
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kaw now
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posted May 31, 2010 08:20 AM
Thanks for the reply any clues for a source for head porting. I don't have bench or skill to do it but would be interested at some point. I looked down the ports and noticed the intake to head port was not very close of a match. Sounds like a good mod for sure.
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posted May 31, 2010 08:21 AM
Or autoshift...
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kaw now
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posted May 31, 2010 08:36 AM
Just did a little reading regarding porting a small block chevy head might this be a key area for the 14 head
"The ridge below the valve seat is the key area to remove in order to enhance airflow. Eliminating this ridge develops a smooth radius from the valve seat into the port"
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mrsantafe
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posted June 01, 2010 12:24 PM
 Edited By: mrsantafe on 1 Jun 2010 20:25
"Now if you want to blow the body work off that BMW with your zx14 all you need to do is spend a little bit of cash ...375.00 bucks mill your head and clean up the bowls , deg your cams 104 106 and see a gain of 13 HP at peak and 15 HP at the limiter .. "
Maybe, but what if the BMW gears his bike -1 +2?
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Shane661
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posted June 01, 2010 01:05 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 1 Jun 2010 21:07
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"Now if you want to blow the body work off that BMW with your zx14 all you need to do is spend a little bit of cash ...375.00 bucks mill your head and clean up the bowls , deg your cams 104 106 and see a gain of 13 HP at peak and 15 HP at the limiter .. "
Maybe, but what if the BMW gears his bike -1 +2?
It depends on how much you and your 14 weigh. 
At stock wheelbase, that BMW would be way overgeared at -1, +2!! Uncontrollable wheelie machine!!
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dubious
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posted June 09, 2010 05:48 PM
it has DTC
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Shane661
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posted June 10, 2010 06:51 AM
With a setup like that enabled I imagine that you won't get much of the acceleration that the extra gear could provide on a longer bike.
I mean, essentially it will neuter itself to keep things under control....right? So there wouldn't seem to be much of a point in adding any gear without wheelbase.
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SteveWFL
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posted June 10, 2010 09:15 AM
damn ya'll throwing money at beating stock litre leaners in a straight line huh
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posted June 11, 2010 05:21 AM
Get a
busa and forget the r1000 beemer...
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posted June 11, 2010 01:30 PM
busa?
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salsa1
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posted June 11, 2010 01:42 PM
Edited By: salsa1 on 11 Jun 2010 21:44
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damn ya'll throwing money at beating stock litre leaners in a straight line huh
Don't forget how much was spent on the BMW..liter bike......before and after mods.....a whole lot more....
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posted June 11, 2010 02:43 PM
There's a good reason why Teasley is runnin away with Real Street in MiRock...
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mrsantafe
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posted June 24, 2010 04:39 PM
Did some roll ons with my BMW (full akra and +2 in the rear. vs. 08 cbr 1k geared , 08 zx10r pipe and pc -1 +3 gear, 08 hayabusa with akra pipe and geared -1 +2 and the zx14 -1 +4. For all you haters you can figure which bike won.
I took my bike to the local dragstrip and ran it stock height and wheelbase. There was 2 zx14's and a 08 Busa (the one above). They were all slammed and stretched. All of the above riders are within 25 lb's of each other.
The Busa and zx14's won at the dragstrip by about 3/10ths but the trap speed on the BMW was up 4 mph better than the - Busa with a 15 lb lighter rider on the busa. and 5 mph better than the zx14 with pipe, pc, geared and same weight rider.
There really isn't a comparison between the two bikes but inevitably the which one is faster always occurs.
If you are into road racing and roll ons: buy the BMW
If you are a drag racer buy the zx14 or busa.
If you are into comparing dynocharts and peak numbers are for you buy the BMW.
Or simply own them both like I do!
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Shane661
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posted June 24, 2010 05:39 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 25 Jun 2010 01:39
Yawn.
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01smokes
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posted June 24, 2010 09:47 PM
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Did some roll ons with my BMW (full akra and +2 in the rear. vs. 08 cbr 1k geared , 08 zx10r pipe and pc -1 +3 gear, 08 hayabusa with akra pipe and geared -1 +2 and the zx14 -1 +4. For all you haters you can figure which bike won.
I took my bike to the local dragstrip and ran it stock height and wheelbase. There was 2 zx14's and a 08 Busa (the one above). They were all slammed and stretched. All of the above riders are within 25 lb's of each other.
The Busa and zx14's won at the dragstrip by about 3/10ths but the trap speed on the BMW was up 4 mph better than the - Busa with a 15 lb lighter rider on the busa. and 5 mph better than the zx14 with pipe, pc, geared and same weight rider.
There really isn't a comparison between the two bikes but inevitably the which one is faster always occurs.
If you are into road racing and roll ons: buy the BMW
If you are a drag racer buy the zx14 or busa.
If you are into comparing dynocharts and peak numbers are for you buy the BMW.
Or simply own them both like I do!
alright well some of these facts are right, but the BOOZA IS STOCK gearing the 14 is +4 stock in the front and whos 100rr did you race? i think when Cisco gears his bike it will beat your BMW when me and him raced the other night (same night as when me and you raced) he got me by 5 bikes and was still pulling he shut it down at 155-160, now if he had the gear he would have jumped out on me harder and stayed pulling it would be hard for the modded BMW to stay out in front i think.
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posted June 25, 2010 03:24 AM
"Power to weight" can't get ne simpler than that! Bigger cc's had problems with litre bikes since the 05/06 1000, most over 6' guys arent riding the litre bikes, they tend to opt for more comfort, that's my excuse n I'm sticking with it, lol, but Shane's bike may b the weight exception, lol
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mrsantafe
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posted June 25, 2010 03:46 PM
Art i didn't say I raced you on your stock BOOZA . and 4 mph in trap speed qtr mile( Busa with akra pipe and geared with a rider who ways 15 lb's less) virtually says who will win in a roll on contest. Keep in mind my bike is only +2 in the rear. Once I gear it more it will gain more bike lengths on a roll on......................
Art you will still lose to the BMW with Cysco's bike......(want to bet on it?)
I've been a member on this board for along time and i'm simply posting some real world results. Some of the folks on this board are intelligent enough to recognize it is what it is.
I don't go bashing people for riding whatever they choose.
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01smokes
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posted June 25, 2010 04:26 PM
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Art i didn't say I raced you on your stock BOOZA . and 4 mph in trap speed qtr mile( Busa with akra pipe and geared with a rider who ways 15 lb's less) virtually says who will win in a roll on contest. Keep in mind my bike is only +2 in the rear. Once I gear it more it will gain more bike lengths on a roll on......................
Art you will still lose to the BMW with Cysco's bike......(want to bet on it?)
I've been a member on this board for along time and i'm simply posting some real world results. Some of the folks on this board are intelligent enough to recognize it is what it is.
I don't go bashing people for riding whatever they choose.
I wasnt talking about MY Booza in that post im talking about Ciscos Booza its STOCK gearing. and ya we all knew his clutch was on its way out when he was rolling that trap that night i always said the bike will MPH faster than what it was, and now with the new clutch it will be where it should be.
And HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO LOSE TO ME Mr.ABQ ill race you on his bike tonight on the street the white boosa vs your BMW
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posted June 25, 2010 04:28 PM
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Art i didn't say I raced you on your stock BOOZA . and 4 mph in trap speed qtr mile( Busa with akra pipe and geared with a rider who ways 15 lb's less) virtually says who will win in a roll on contest. Keep in mind my bike is only +2 in the rear. Once I gear it more it will gain more bike lengths on a roll on......................
Art you will still lose to the BMW with Cysco's bike......(want to bet on it?)
I've been a member on this board for along time and i'm simply posting some real world results. Some of the folks on this board are intelligent enough to recognize it is what it is.
I don't go bashing people for riding whatever they choose.
I'd like to see this. Cisco's bike with gear will tear that BMW a new ass like the US did to Hitler!!! LOL!!!
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01smokes
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posted June 25, 2010 04:30 PM
And im not bashing anything i like the BMW even tho its not my cup of tea its WAY to PRICEY for me hell i can have a 330hp ZX14 for ALOT less than the price of your BMW, also Cisco has never raced your BMW
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Gabriel
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posted June 26, 2010 06:42 AM
Lower gearing gives an advantage through all speeds, right up to red line in 6th.
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Gabriel
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posted June 26, 2010 06:43 AM
Edited By: Gabriel on 26 Jun 2010 14:45
oops
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prochargedmach1
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posted August 22, 2010 01:21 PM
Edited By: prochargedmach1 on 22 Aug 2010 21:22
how were you shifting when you raced this guy???? ( i dont bother using the clutch. its much quicker) i just dont believe you would loose like that.....i raced a 700rwhp mustang for years and the one thing i learned very quick when i had just recently bought my 1st bike (zx14) is that the rider or driver is everything with these(same with the car).....i would have loved to hear the outcome with a rider switch....
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Gabriel
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posted August 22, 2010 03:22 PM
Edited By: Gabriel on 22 Aug 2010 23:28
The guy outweighs you by twenty pounds and still pulled away says a lot for the BMW, they are kicking ass in MoTo Gp.
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