zx14durham
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posted May 26, 2010 07:32 PM
zx14 manual cam chain tensioner
Anyone using it, How often does it need adjusting, Can you use it on the street.
  
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speedgene
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posted May 26, 2010 08:55 PM
Squidsquirtingseamanhere,
Sea here, you are some squid on the street crying about some noisy cam chain start up? See me running all for the mountains something will happen to the bike?
I'll tell you what will happen. You are going to hear the pro's and con's. If you are a pro racer, you be stupid not to have that setup.
If you are a squid like me, then I'm gonna laugh at you wondering when you are going to go through all that shit pulling off fairing cover to get to the crank bolt and set that fucker up all race ready steady.
So, if you want to run that tensioner and do not start yapping at me, I tell you a factory says to run it for 6 races and check.
Now, if I were stupid enough to use one on the street, I'd be on that thing like every fucking time I go out I'd check. But I beat the shit out of the bike with the rattler and you see me pulling cover?
Now, don't you feel better there is no advantage I come up behind you with your high fool loot inn whatever engineering you think you need for your STREET bike, fella.
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blackbullet76
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posted May 26, 2010 08:58 PM
Been using mine on the street for about a year or so now. I haven't had to adjust it for long time. took me a while to get it set right though. I suggest setting it cold when installing it, then do the fine tuning when it's warmed up. In my opinion, it seemed to give my bike better acceleration. Best $60 I ever spent on my 14!
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speedgene
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posted May 27, 2010 01:03 AM
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for about a year or so now.
Have you checked since? You would have to move the rear wheel backward, then cold feel that slop by hand at the crank rolling it forward.
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I haven't had to adjust it for long time.
Poopcorn Icon.
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took me a while to get it set right though.quote:
Don't tell me you didn't...
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I suggest setting it cold when installing it, then do the fine tuning when it's warmed up.
Adjust a chain with a running engine? Hand how was that tightened? On the out of sync, chain slapping back and forth you have no clue where it is now without a dead engine. I think that is the most stu pit dis move if you only knew. And it is not my bike.
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In my opinion, it seemed to give my bike better acceleration. Best $60 I ever spent on my 14!
In my slipper world, you are going to pay down the road you hear the noise too late. I have a pre-ratchet like the tach and speedo zero out. My tensioner zero's out everyday is that adjust noise.
YOur bike. Your 'on top of it' without looking at it after how many miles? How many times do you hammer the throttle?
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted May 27, 2010 01:28 AM
A couple of us made the stocker a manual tensioner http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=54772&set_time=
 
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speedgene
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posted May 27, 2010 07:31 AM
Here's the deal. You act the fan switch. Let the engine know when it needs to cool itself down. Streetsquid: Has no advantage as if you moved the preset on a cam timing change? Runs better?
Don't get me wrong. I told you, you want street peak performance, then it will cost you on a mod change, you control the fan switch you control the cam chain slack in the manual and now control the engine too.
Dis guy says he installed and just walked the fuck away. Race experience says you better keep that short 20 minutes or whatever race you had for 5 or 6 times you do the math is minutes spent and now inspect.
Squidcitycentralhere, is going to assume like an ass that I am, he is way past his minutes and now fan switch that screwing around you are going to be doing, durham. Guy telling me he just sets and ridesmacksquid.
 You know that head game how I wake up in the morning, wait for someone to show up with their setup and forget to bring their balls they need a tensioner for the street.
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SLVR_BLT
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posted May 27, 2010 12:49 PM
How do you know when the CCT is going on its last limb? I hear a 1-2 second ticking noise on cold start ups but nothing after that.
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted May 27, 2010 02:16 PM
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How do you know when the CCT is going on its last limb? I hear a 1-2 second ticking noise on cold start ups but nothing after that.
The stock CCT is supposed to last the life of the engine.
But there are a few out there that rattle for a minute or 2 sometimes or worst yet are like mine that had a mind of it's own , meaning it would rattle after I hit the rev limiter and rattle for a minute or 2 during startup.
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posted May 27, 2010 02:38 PM
lack of oil, either low level, or it was still flowing back to sump if you redlined it.
I always run my oil 3/4 up the glass
Rattle at idle is ok,
Rattle at rpm is sketchy.
Cold oil has allot of pressure, but little flow. if it only occurs at initial start up your ok.
Don't rev or ride it until the rattle goes away.
.... just my 2 cents.
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posted May 27, 2010 02:57 PM
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lack of oil, either low level, or it was still flowing back to sump if you redlined it.
I always run my oil 3/4 up the glass
Rattle at idle is ok,
Rattle at rpm is sketchy.
Cold oil has allot of pressure, but little flow. if it only occurs at initial start up your ok.
Don't rev or ride it until the rattle goes away.
.... just my 2 cents.
no, I just hear a momentary clacking noise upon a cold start for like 2 seconds then goes away. I won't hear it again until my the next cold start or after my bike has been sitting for a couple hours or more.
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posted May 28, 2010 10:15 AM
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Anyone using it, How often does it need adjusting, Can you use it on the street.
I use one, street and track. No problem to report. I just set it per APE instructions and have not made any adjustments.
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blackbullet76
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posted May 28, 2010 09:33 PM
After my first oil change back in 2007, mine had the start-up rattle until the day I installed the manual tensioner. Also it would rattle at idle and partial acceleration below 2500 rpm's. Drove me nuts! Now it's quiet with the APE piece.
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2007 ZX-14 black
Brocks s-meg exhaust
PCIII w/track map
BMC race filter
Flies removed
16 tooth front sprocket
Speedohealer
APE cam chain tensioner
Vortex rearsets
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted May 29, 2010 12:05 AM
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lack of oil, either low level, or it was still flowing back to sump if you redlined it.
I always run my oil 3/4 up the glass
Rattle at idle is ok,
Rattle at rpm is sketchy.
Cold oil has allot of pressure, but little flow. if it only occurs at initial start up your ok.
Don't rev or ride it until the rattle goes away.
.... just my 2 cents.
I keep my oil at the top line on the sight glass.
My CCT slowly got worst and worst.
1st it would rattle forever on start up once in blue moon, then it would rattle more often for long periods of time before it stopped. Then it would rattle after hitting the rev limiter once in a blue moon. Then finally it would rattle whenever it wanted .
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posted May 29, 2010 02:21 AM
Lee what was your milage when the CCT made tick after a redline ride?
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted May 29, 2010 11:31 AM
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Lee what was your milage when the CCT made tick after a redline ride?
Louis
At 51k and change.
But it would do the rattle that seemed to last forever every so often since about 40k.
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