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posted May 10, 2010 02:56 PM
spark plug dyno
Have any of you dyno junkys tried to dyno diffrent plugs to see if its possible to make any gain?
  
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posted May 10, 2010 04:04 PM
Um . . . no, I have'nt.
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posted May 10, 2010 04:27 PM
Ive seen and read lots about that subject. Dont waste your time or money. Just have the correct plug with the proper gap.
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posted May 10, 2010 05:08 PM
Messing with your plug gaps will gain a horse or 2... Maybe.
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posted May 10, 2010 07:23 PM
I got 30 hp from the E3's but had to go back to ngk's 'cause it scared me!
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posted May 10, 2010 09:28 PM
30 thats all? bummer.Im wondering about a plug that may last longer than stock?Or small gains and life.
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posted May 10, 2010 11:16 PM
I want some cordless jumper cables.
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posted May 11, 2010 02:38 AM
I want to run the 8's SWB and not lowered and foot shifting. Stock spark plugs best idea.
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posted May 11, 2010 03:25 AM
 Edited By: Ricksgsxr on 11 May 2010 11:34
I was a sucker once...tried some really expensive plugs like $80 a set than add the dyno runs made a whopping 1 hp vs a fresh set of CR10E this was on a 1070 1k but i'm sure no different for a zx-14.
It was not worth it, but my inquiring mind took control of my wallet LOL! $ 150 later..
This was another waste of money..
It looekd and sounded promising, made well, but never saw or felt any gains. Was supposed to keep the airbox pressirized and give you partial ram air at highway speeds or something liek that.
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posted May 11, 2010 04:02 AM
Takes balls to own that one Rick. Everybody that's honest here has a shelf or bin with the latest and greatest parts that didn't work. Not all will admit it though.
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posted May 11, 2010 04:54 AM
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I was a sucker once...
This was another waste of money..
It looked and sounded promising, made well, but never saw or felt any gains. Was supposed to keep the airbox pressurized and give you partial ram air...
The fan has to make at least 29 psi. and/or over, inside of that air cleaner box. First 14.7 is taken up buy the engine suck. The next sucker move is to push another 14.7 psi on the box, force a classic ram effect at it. This is basic physics know, going in. Someone came up with the math and needed 600hp to generate a fan a pressure 28psi. He should have made a fan that strong over your felt fiber. The guy who when through all that work had no clue is a dead website if not ridiculed off the net someone catches that elixir theory.
To me, that fan is in the way, slowing down some air bubble fighting up, over, and around getting into the chamber before the fuel throws off the proportion like a dirty air cleaner. Now, there is a slight rich condition. Maybe you lost power, the lower rich torque it made ate it up; you felt nothing.
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zx14fan
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posted May 11, 2010 02:32 PM
Wow what a thought.
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posted May 11, 2010 03:15 PM
Edited By: Ricksgsxr on 11 May 2010 23:20
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Takes balls to own that one Rick. Everybody that's honest here has a shelf or bin with the latest and greatest parts that didn't work. Not all will admit it though.
The ole live and learn.... You can stand by and wait for someone else to try something and play it safe or take a risk and may discover something works!
But in fairness some products may work no way those $80 spark plugs ... but i recall the Attack racing CF airbox I later sold to Sal (Iceman) many years ago when after installing and sending e-mails to Attack who never replied ... I lost huge numbers in the mid range and was really pissed what I spent than sold to Sal which he got to work on his 1k with a special filter and mapping he made.
I believe he gained 3-4 mph on his top end just my lack of knowledge back in 2001 it failed for me but worked for someone else. Just wish Attack would had replied surely they knew but..maybe they thought i was not just a consumer and instead from a different team.
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posted May 11, 2010 03:26 PM
You gotta try stuff.
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posted May 12, 2010 03:54 PM
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Have any of you dyno junkys tried to dyno diffrent plugs to see if its possible to make any gain?
wow, you really are a dumbass... lol
You probably wouldn't figure out how to change em anyway...
how old are you? like 12?
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posted May 12, 2010 03:59 PM
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Have any of you dyno junkys tried to dyno diffrent plugs to see if its possible to make any gain?
wow, you really are a dumbass... lol
You probably wouldn't figure out how to change em anyway...
how old are you? like 12?
LOL I knew a 12 year old couldn't run you off
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posted May 12, 2010 04:02 PM
Edited By: dubious on 13 May 2010 00:03
ok, you got me there lol... I still love the rest of you fuckers  lol
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posted May 12, 2010 04:04 PM
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Was that a real product?  I don't believe it....
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posted May 12, 2010 04:15 PM
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Was that a real product? I don't believe it....
i need 2 ...like yesterday!!!
LOL
props for trying new stuff tho
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posted May 12, 2010 06:36 PM
...LOL
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posted May 12, 2010 10:38 PM
wheelie wonka with a brain lol wow.Well tell me what you know about a simple spark plug hmm???Do you even know what a heat rang is and how it affects cyclinder temp and burn???Tell us what you have tried and tested in the spark plug world if you know so much??Can you explain what those little numbers on the side mean??I thought a smart punk cop like you would be able to tell us what test and with what results you came up with in a world full of claims??Ahh just the norm cop mouth is all you have.Nothing to add to the spark plug thread just a mouth.With your comment I thought you might have some knowledge of the subject but im sure at this point you truly dont even know what the plugs are.
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posted May 13, 2010 05:23 AM
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wheelie wonka with a brain lol wow.Well tell me what you know about a simple spark plug hmm???Do you even know what a heat rang is and how it affects cyclinder temp and burn???Tell us what you have tried and tested in the spark plug world if you know so much??Can you explain what those little numbers on the side mean??I thought a smart punk cop like you would be able to tell us what test and with what results you came up with in a world full of claims??Ahh just the norm cop mouth is all you have.Nothing to add to the spark plug thread just a mouth.With your comment I thought you might have some knowledge of the subject but im sure at this point you truly dont even know what the plugs are.
I'm just glad you weren't able to run Dubious off
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posted May 13, 2010 01:45 PM
zx14fan:
I was rebuilding my own motocross engines and 2 stroke top ends back when i was 12 years old in 1982, and my first 4 stroke, a 396 chevy Big block, in 1986, when the best part of you hadn't even met the curtains yet.
The professors don't write articles, the students do, and the profs correct them, so get it straight.
The world is already full of talkers, takers and belly achers.
Why don't you contribute for a change?
All I ever seen from you was refute without basis or fundamental knowledge.
Instead of doubting the world and asking for proof, provide your own proof
show us how smart you are instead of telling us.
Wee, and a few others here have many more years on me.
I assure you many of us already knew about plug heat ranges, indexing plugs, and gapping for the application a long long time ago.
Thats really, really old news.
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posted May 13, 2010 02:17 PM
Well smart ass I started rcing moto cross at the age of ten.turned pro at 16 till I was 21 I built a blown alky 871 big block super e dragster that i had a female drive that was called girlpowerracing and you can see that car after I sold it with the video and me in it at girlpowerracing .com take a look I might not be as stupid as you think.You are one of the punks on this site thats to cocky.you gotta a mouth you should lern to shut up and have a little respect.did you have a mother when you grew up? dosent sound like it.Wish i could see you in person.Out
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posted May 13, 2010 02:21 PM
The fact the you built a 396 rather than a 454 for the same cost tells me a little about you.do you know who warren johnson is?hes called the professor and he rights the articles lol every week.
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